No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

[woody2goody]

If you hit the ball too hard down the line there is no way it should get to the OF too fast is the point. The problem is even if you hit the ball hard, it seems to die fast in addition to the fact that the OF's seem to get to it too fast.

Hitting it extremely hard should get to the wall every time UNLESS the OF's are guarding the lines.

That's what I meant, is it bouncing quickly off the wall and straight to the men?

[kehlis]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

That's what I meant, is it bouncing quickly off the wall and straight to the men?

Any ball that gets to the wall should never result in anything less than a single for 99% of the runners but no, that isn't the case for me.

[woody2goody]

Any ball that gets to the wall should never result in anything less than a single for 99% of the runners but no, that isn't the case for me.

Are your runners rounding first base quickly enough? What I mean is people have said that you need to preload your bases otherwise they run slowly round the turns.

I use auto baserunning so I don't really have a problem with that, nor am I noticing a lack of doubles down the line unless the ball is absolutely smashed.

If its not that then I'm not sure really mate.

[kehlis]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Are your runners rounding first base quickly enough? What I mean is people have said that you need to preload your bases otherwise they run slowly round the turns.

I use auto baserunning so I don't really have a problem with that, nor am I noticing a lack of doubles down the line unless the ball is absolutely smashed.

If its not that then I'm not sure really mate.

Nah, the problem is the outfielders are getting to the ball too fast to even worry about having to preload the runner.

It seems to just be a slider issue, sounds like it can be fixed, I was just so happy with default sliders minus a few thing's I've seen like this one.

[G3no_11]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Nah, the problem is the outfielders are getting to the ball too fast to even worry about having to preload the runner.

It seems to just be a slider issue, sounds like it can be fixed, I was just so happy with default sliders minus a few thing's I've seen like this one.

Lower Fielder Speed down to 2 notches and lower Arm Strength to 3 or 4 and that should cure the problem. If that doesn't work, lower the Fielder Reaction down a notch or 2.

[Knight165]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I was fine with doubles down the line.....(manage only mode...which is really cpu vs. cpu for all intents and purposes)....but I too have the fielder speed at 1.....reaction down to 3......arm strength down to 3(4 maybe?) baserunning speed up to 6 (with steal frequency and success 1 notch down)....but it was because I felt too many guys were stopping at third on base hits and even getting gunned down if they went. Only the fastest guys were making it with ease.

I wish they gave us a separate OF/IF slider for speed/reaction and "lengthened" them a bit.....I'll have to ask about that.

M.K.
Knight165

[kehlis]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I wish they gave us a separate OF/IF slider for speed/reaction and "lengthened" them a bit.....I'll have to ask about that.

M.K.
Knight165

That's why I've been hesitant to change it!!

Separate sliders would be fantastic.

[Bobhead]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Absolutely. I feel like Outfielders literally run faster than infielders, regardless of sliders. It's quite weird.

But I'm also getting a fair number of doubles down the line, and I also am running with Speed at 1, Arm Strength at 4.

My baserunner speed is at 1 also though. I had problems with baserunners outrunning the pitcher to the bag at 1st base, and to me that's more important.

But I'm still getting plenty of doubles. I'm averaging 1.8 doubles per game. That's actually a little above the average for doubles, I believe.

And last but not least, I should mention this is with the Mets, one of the slower teams in MLB.

So if I can do it, you can too!

[HozAndMoose]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I see plenty of doubles down the lines with TNK's slioders using the Royals. Even with players who have speed in the 60's.

[kehlis]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Absolutely. I feel like Outfielders literally run faster than infielders, regardless of sliders. It's quite weird.

But I'm also getting a fair number of doubles down the line, and I also am running with Speed at 1, Arm Strength at 4.

My baserunner speed is at 1 also though. I had problems with baserunners outrunning the pitcher to the bag at 1st base, and to me that's more important.

But I'm still getting plenty of doubles. I'm averaging 1.8 doubles per game. That's actually a little above the average for doubles, I believe.

And last but not least, I should mention this is with the Mets, one of the slower teams in MLB.

So if I can do it, you can too!

My issue isn't with getting doubles.

I'm getting a realistic amount of them, I'm just having trouble getting extra base hits on shots down the line that should be double's but aren't.

I haven't messed around with sliders so I know it's on me, I just get so afraid to mess with sliders to fix one thing out of fear of how it will affect other aspects of the game.

[dazzelle]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I use auto baserunning so I don't really have a problem with that,

When using auto baserunning can you still control it if you want to over ride the cpu.
I am thinking of switching over to auto as i just make to many stupid mistakes with baserunning when i have a few guys on but would still like to control one guy and leave the others to the cpu.

sorry for going ot.

[JoeT]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

My two cents: As has been mentioned, fielders tend to be too fast, take perfect routes and get rid of the ball too well. I think '13 has improved from previous versions, but still needs work. Personally, I've experimented with all sorts of slider settings for fielders and runners to try to find the best mix to get doubles/triples that look accurate while not ruining other parts of the game. I've found there is no magic formula because if you "fix" one thing to look right, you can "break" something else so other plays don't look good. You can fix the sliders so that any single play looks good, but you can't fix them so all plays look good. You have to decide which plays you most want to correct and play a bunch of games with different plays and judge with your eyes what look proper to you. Everyone will have a different opinion, but for what it's worth. here are the settings I think are best suited to give a good balance along with my current settings:

Fielder Speed I think 2-3 is best. If you lower it too much more than that, I've found hits will get up the alleys that look like they should be caught. Current - 3
Fielder Reaction 4 - 5. Current - 5
Arm Strength 3 - 4. Current - 3
BR Speed 4 - 6. Current - 5

So just by lowering fielder speed and arm strength a little bit will give you more doubles and triples. And lowering arm strength to 3 doesn't really hurt infielders being able to still gun out runners at first.

[spitoon]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I agree with the OP. At least for doubles down the lines...I'm not really seeing an issue with triples as much.

I brought it up in the Ball Physics thread (http://www.operationsports.com/forum...iscussion.html) with a suggestion that the friction was too high and the ball seems to die very early in the outfield...couple that with the reaction speed, running speed, and arm strength and I'm seeing virtually no doubles on balls down the lines (stock sliders).

I have the same concern as a few here about tweaking sliders and having other undesirable effects. I don't really have a problem with the number of doubles overall, but the ones down the lines bug me.

[Kamasutra]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

When using auto baserunning can you still control it if you want to over ride the cpu.

no.

my 2 cents: messing with 4-5 different sliders to try to correct one thing is probably not a sound method because you're unbalancing other aspects of the game and only bandaging the perceived problem, I still say there isn't one, but whatever..

3 things would help this, besides having good baserunners with good BR Ability, actually 4:

1. Autobaserunning, the cpu does a fair if not excellent job
2. Players natural progression. Even during the course of 1 season, players read the play better and make good decisions
3. 3rd base coach (everyone forgets this). He's the guy putting up the stop sign or waving them in (on auto)
4. Your manager and the boosts he provides.. Some managers provide a hitting boost to the detriment of baserunning (many forget this, again)
[5. The combination of all your coaches perks put together]. They can either seriously boost baserunning or almost work against a good baserunning team. And the only time you can change them is during the offseason..]

[birthday_massacre]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I think the issue is the CPU controlled OF always takes the perfect angle to the ball and gets to it perfectly every time so its hard to get a double at the ball in the corners. My doubles all come from ones off the walls or ground rule doubles.