Does The Show Attract more Mature players?

[Jimbo614]

Re: Does The Show Attract more Mature players?

How cool would that cutscene be in the game if you created George Brett and used him in game?!

On the conversation at hand...
I'm doing a 1973 World Series right now and when I played vs. Cincy in the NLCS I assigned them the throwbacks for each game and played Cincy's home games in Crosley Field. I'm playing the Met home games in Shea.
(you miss some of the new post season additions....but it's a better fit IMO)

M.K.
Knight165

I think I hate you!!
Just like a Met fan to gloat over that Series...Most disgusting Fan Behavior Ever. Like something out of a Third World Country. I hope Pedro Borbon kicks Cleon Jones' *** again. The only reason the Mets won that Series was because the Reds were afraid for their lives. Disgusting! Sorry Knight,In fact, you should be embarrassed. BTW, Conveniently forgotten by the East Coast Media Elite.

[Knight165]

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I think I hate you!!
Just like a Met fan to gloat over that Series...Most disgusting Fan Behavior Ever. Like something out of a Third World Country. I hope Pedro Borbon kicks Cleon Jones' *** again. The only reason the Mets won that Series was because the Reds were afraid for their lives. Disgusting! Sorry Knight,In fact, you should be embarrassed. BTW, Conveniently forgotten by the East Coast Media Elite.

You wanna try and hang with N.Y.C.?.....You get the whole package.


Oh...and Matlack, Koosman and Seaver giving up 5 runs total in 4 games they pitched(including the Seaver loss in Game 1) might have had just a tad to do with it.

M.K.
Knight165

[Jimbo614]

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For those of you who werent around in 73, you gotta imagine this.
It's the third game of the 73 NLCS, best of 5. Series is tied 1-1. Somewhere around the fifth inning, Pete Rose goes in hard at second base like he always did. Poor lil Bud Harrelson gets tangled up with him. But it was Mike Garrett, The Met 3B that comes up and kidney punches Rose from behind. A sucker punch. Pete thinks Bud Harrelson did it and starts pummeling poor lil Bud Harrelson. By now, both benches empty and all HLL breaks out. Now, this is on National Television, 3rd game of the Playoffs mind you.
The fight breaks out in maybe four or five places.. There's Pete and poor lil Buddy. There's Bench and I think Koosman, Perez is going at it with somebody.. There's Klusewski throwing bodies off the pile, but best of all is Pedro Borbon; Pedro has Cleon Jones on the ground. He takes a bite out of Jone's leg. After they break it up, Borbon discovers he accidently has a Met cap on. So he chews it up like a dog, spitting out the pieces. It's like he's foaming at the mouth.
So the Umpires finally regain control like after 45 minutes. Fights constantly re-erupting.
Now Pete has to go out to Right Field at the bottom of the inning.
All kinds of debris starts raining down.. batteries, whiskey bottles, from the upper deck. The game stops of course, Sparky comes out and says "that's it! We're done. Get on the bus we're going home". The games held up for like an hour. Sparky literally has the Reds on the bus ready to hop a plane back to Cincy. Finally, the NYPD clears the entire outfield bleachers on horseback. Y'know, how long are we talking to organize this? It's dark by this time. Anyway, the Mets then go on to blow the Reds out 9-3. What was a close game turns into a travesty.
So the next day, the game goes into extra innings, all at Shea of course;
Rose gets more boos, the outfield is still vacant. What does Pete do? He hits the game winning HR..As he rounds the bases, he's waving his middle finger at all the Mets Fans.. I used to have the poster of it. But giving all the Mets fans the bird on a game winning hr. Gotta love it. I still think that's why the East Coast writers hate him so much to this day.
Anyway, the next day is game 5. In a Best of 5 mind you.
It's just a constant wall of cascading boos and garbage from first pitch on. By the end of the game, the field looks like a garbage dump. Paper blowing everywhere, bottles landing in front of the Reds dugout..
And the lasting image I still hold from that Series was Johnny Bench, Ted Klusewski, Danny Dreissen and Merv Rettenmund having to go up in the stands in the ninth inning with Baseball Bats to protect the players wives and executives. Like armed guards escorting their families to the bus.NYPD no where to be found. We later found out that Met fans tried tipping the bus over trying to get back to the airport.
Again, all on National Television but conveniently forgotten by the New York Media almost the day after it happened.

[Jimbo614]

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BTW, I don't hate you. We in Cincy still hold hard feelings about that Series.

[Knight165]

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Haha....

Borbon bites Jones....and eats a N.Y. Met hat!
Rose gives N.Y. the finger(the "professionals" in this case mind you)
...and the fans are classless?!

You can have Rose's GW homer...we got the NLCS!

(just ribbin' ya')

I completely forgot that Big Klu was a coach on that team BTW....

M.K.
Knight165

[Jimbo614]

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Yeah, Klu was the Enforcer!!
That was the greatest fight I've ever seen in any sport period.
And like I said, totally forgotten.
Guys pulling jerseys over the heads, Tom Seaver's Jersey was sideways. And it just kept re-erupting over and over.
Funniest line, Kubek and Garagiola was calling the game during Roses Home Run.. Kubek goes. "What's he doing Joe?" and Garagiola without missing a beat goes "He's showing New York who's number one!"
Can you imagine that happening today? Nobody would believe it.

[32jack]

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I am 52yo, and have been playing sports sims since the best ones were played with dice and cards. MLB The Show 13 represents, in my opinion the baseball game we have waited for since the days of Earl Weaver Baseball on the Commodore 64/128 and Amiga. I have never been a joystick jock; every game through the years I have always "played" in Commissioner/God mode, lording over all the teams and watching the cpu do the playing. With MLB The Show 13, this seems to be the default, while in the past, cpu v cpu games were the option. The many complaints I have read on this forum have been from the average gamer who desires to throw themselves into the game as a pitcher/batter/fielder. But for me, the developers have nailed big-league baseball. All the detail, the pace and, with a tweak of the sliders, the gameplay, all add up to a major league experience, day in and day out. The different broadcast perpectives found in every park really adds to the experience for me because I am a baseball media junkie. The only thing that could possibly be added to this game is to have each broadcast feature the home teams announcers. The only game that I remember that allowed you to choose announcers was the Tony LaRussa/Oldtime baseball series. And those were not announcing teams, but old-fashioned play-by-play men, the "voices" of the game. And there was only a choice of 3 in one game, 2 in the other. But I believe adding something like that would be an unbelievable task for any development team, but I personally would love it.

I remember Old Time. Curt Gowdy and Red Barber, I believe. I started with Strat-O-Matic cards and dice back in '69. Have all their computer versions also.
Have also played Action PC, Diamond Mind, Sports Illustrated, etc... I've grown weary/ bored of reading text and watching computer dice on my laptop.

At age 57 I wanted a baseball game that delivers a solid and believable stat engine, offered old time roster sets (through the vault) along with awesome eye candy.
Looks like (just purchased yesterday) MLB13 is going to fit the bill.
It was really neat to watch Willie Mays, Orlando Cepeda, Babe Ruth, etc... competing on the same field last night!
jack

[KBLover]

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i also think baseball video gamers are more particular of their experience. they want more from their game. they want realism, immersion and sim style play. i really believe that is true for most show and 2k guys.

Sorry to quote a really old post - but this is me. I'm still not happy with a lot of stuff and how it plays out (like batters swinging at the knees against a high fastball at the letters - when does this EVER happen?) I saw a game on TV last night where the batter struck out and top surface of the bat literally missed the bottom surface of the ball by millimeters (they showed the swing on slow-mo replay). In The Show, that's either fouled or the batter swing like he's blind (i.e. swinging low on a high riding fastball).

So I'm constantly trying to get that narrowed up so this PCI thing isn't so unrealistically off when the hitter is fooled or can't get on a pitch and the strike/ball ratio and guys just missing, but doing it all game on the mound, etc.

Being into both the physics of the game and sabermetrics doesn't help me any in trying to settle down with my sliders and such...

[Spanky]

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I remember Old Time. Curt Gowdy and Red Barber, I believe. I started with Strat-O-Matic cards and dice back in '69. Have all their computer versions also.
Have also played Action PC, Diamond Mind, Sports Illustrated, etc... I've grown weary/ bored of reading text and watching computer dice on my laptop.

At age 57 I wanted a baseball game that delivers a solid and believable stat engine, offered old time roster sets (through the vault) along with awesome eye candy.
Looks like (just purchased yesterday) MLB13 is going to fit the bill.
It was really neat to watch Willie Mays, Orlando Cepeda, Babe Ruth, etc... competing on the same field last night!
jack

Bingo! Especially the part about the old-time rosters.

[32jack]

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Bingo! Especially the part about the old-time rosters.

Playing Boston and Yanks at the Polo Grounds. 3 inn. in and Cy Young is outdueling Guidry 2-0. Awesome to have the Babe @ #3 in the order, followed by the Mick!!

My main man, Koufax, opens the season for the Dodgers when I get home from work. I believe there's a ballpark for Ebbets Field. Going to play the game there rather than Dodger Stadium.

[Spanky]

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Playing Boston and Yanks at the Polo Grounds. 3 inn. in and Cy Young is outdueling Guidry 2-0. Awesome to have the Babe @ #3 in the order, followed by the Mick!!

My main man, Koufax, opens the season for the Dodgers when I get home from work. I believe there's a ballpark for Ebbets Field. Going to play the game there rather than Dodger Stadium.

I hear ya. When I first started playing the Show last year I couldn't wait to download the classic rosters and play with the all-time greats.

One of the coolest moments for me was playing as the Yankees against the Cardinals. I hit a homer with Babe Ruth while Joe DiMaggio was on base and Lou Gehrig was on deck. It really sinks in how great this game is when you see Ruth touch home plate and then get congratulated by DiMaggio and Gehrig on his way back to the dugout.

Ebbett's Field, by the way, is not in the game. Would be awesome if they could include it in next-gen, along with Tiger Stadium, Comiskey Park, Candlestick Park, the Astrodome and some of the cookie cutters of the 70s and 80s, like Riverfront, Three Rivers or the Vet.

[Cavicchi]

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I hear ya. When I first started playing the Show last year I couldn't wait to download the classic rosters and play with the all-time greats.

One of the coolest moments for me was playing as the Yankees against the Cardinals. I hit a homer with Babe Ruth while Joe DiMaggio was on base and Lou Gehrig was on deck. It really sinks in how great this game is when you see Ruth touch home plate and then get congratulated by DiMaggio and Gehrig on his way back to the dugout.

Ebbett's Field, by the way, is not in the game. Would be awesome if they could include it in next-gen, along with Tiger Stadium, Comiskey Park, Candlestick Park, the Astrodome and some of the cookie cutters of the 70s and 80s, like Riverfront, Three Rivers or the Vet.

Where is this roster with Koufax and the others? Link or download from the vault?

[Spanky]

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Where is this roster with Koufax and the others? Link or download from the vault?

Just go to vault and search historic rosters. there's a few of them on there. I'm playing with the set just completed by someone with username biebig($).

[Cavicchi]

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Just go to vault and search historic rosters. there's a few of them on there. I'm playing with the set just completed by someone with username biebig($).

Okay, thanks! I guess there isn't audio for that roster Sure would be nice to hear their names announced.

[Knight165]

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32 or Spanky.....

Do those rosters have faces completed as well as ratings?
Silly to some I know....but I can't play without that being completed as well.

Thanks.

M.K.
Knight165