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  • Curahee
    100 Miles To Go
    • Jan 2012
    • 4009

    #61
    Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

    Originally posted by Bobhead
    Do you remember the PS3 launch? That thing had like 400 features, cost like a gazillion bucks, and no one bought it.
    I only remember people selling them on ebay for like a Grand because they were sold out everywhere else.

    Popular online auction Web site says 14,675 PS3s were sold for an average price of just under $1,200; Wiis go for an average of $412.
    Last edited by Curahee; 11-07-2013, 12:14 PM.

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    • Bobhead
      Pro
      • Mar 2011
      • 4926

      #62
      Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

      Originally posted by Curahee
      I only remember people selling them on ebay for like a Grand because they were sold out everywhere else.

      http://www.gamespot.com/articles/eba.../1100-6162338/
      That has nothing to do with anything. I can produce 2 units of a product and sell both and call the product "sold out"

      Compare the PS3 to other systems



      The PS2 has sold double what the original Xbox sold
      The PS3 sold the same number of units that the 360 sold.

      The biggest complaint by far, of the PS3 at launch, was that it was "too expensive."

      Not only that, but the initial sales of the PS3 were not even profitable. One PS3 cost more to make (upwards of $700), than it was being sold for.

      units may have been sold at an estimated loss of $306 or $241 [per unit], depending on model...

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      • Curahee
        100 Miles To Go
        • Jan 2012
        • 4009

        #63
        Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

        Originally posted by Bobhead
        That has nothing to do with anything.
        All I said was I didnt remember that.
        It wasnt a comment against yours.

        Your links are the reason why I plan to wait on a future model of the PS4 so that I dont get sucked into launch bugs.
        Last edited by Curahee; 11-07-2013, 12:50 PM.

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        • seanjeezy
          The Future
          • Aug 2009
          • 3347

          #64
          Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

          IIRC, PS3 sold out instantly at launch, it even mentions it in the Wikipedia article. However, for the next couple of years there was a massive games drought (aka "PS3 has no games"), which coupled with the high price led to terrible sales.

          Anyway, on topic - the lack of MP3 playback and DNLA support at launch is Sony's way of pushing their streaming music and video services. I don't know how many of you have seen Sony's latest fiscal reports... They need every last penny.
          Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda

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          • Braincramps
            Banned
            • Nov 2013
            • 66

            #65
            Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

            Originally posted by Curahee
            Thats true. Because whether or not it was on the PS3 at launch, it ended up on it at some point and for them to remove it or any other feature from the PS4 version is strange.

            I get the argument that people want a "gaming" console. Fine. Then only use it for games. But there are other people that want it for more than just games and they want the full available technology and buying an XB1 is so far out of the question that its irrelevant even to suggest it.

            There is nothing wrong with catering to the masses especially when they are as vocal about this issue as they are.
            If its not in the PS4 launch then I would hope at some point it is added to an update. I know MLBTS is not the only game that allows you to add music to the game.
            Or maybe they just focused on games at launch as people who buy consoles at launch are usually core gamers.... Look whjat happened to MS with all the used games/TV bs..They still have not recovered lol.. If sony doesn;t add this then I will be pissed, but I think it is pretty safe to assume it will and not too long after launch. Same with PS3 headset support.

            PS4 is totally different then 3, new OS, architecture, maybe they didn;t have time or want to add this for a crammed launch window and made it all about gaming.

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            • rjackson
              MVP
              • Apr 2005
              • 1661

              #66
              Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

              I think it is both reasons. Need to get Music Unlimited sales, PS+ memberships, etc to drive revenue. Also, Playstations are known to be sold at cost - past PS3 lessons here - and they make their money by licensing. EA pays them a royalty if you will for every copy of Madden sold as an example. Thus, they need to push games to make money.

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              • Curahee
                100 Miles To Go
                • Jan 2012
                • 4009

                #67
                Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

                Originally posted by rjackson
                I think it is both reasons. Need to get Music Unlimited sales, PS+ memberships, etc to drive revenue.
                I wonder how many people there are out there like me....

                I will never pay for a MU subscription, I will never pay for PS+. All that other extra stuff on the XMB that costs money, I will never buy except for MLB.TV.
                I rarely buy a game brand new, other than The Show. I usually only rent or buy used.

                Sony is literally getting the minimum dollar from me.

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                • legacyme3
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 572

                  #68
                  Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

                  "I will never pay for a MU subscription, I will never pay for PS+. All that other extra stuff on the XMB that costs money, I will never buy except for MLB.TV"

                  More people than Sony would like to admit. I've talked to several of my friends about the PS4 and the MU subscription that is required if you want music on your PS4. They were pretty unanimous in their disinterest in MU. PS+ some are willing to pay for because it pays for itself with all the free games, discounts, and exclusive stuff that they get. If I had the money, I'd probably get PS+ too, because it serves a purpose, unlike MU.

                  I think ultimately, Sony will realize no one gives a damn about MU, and back off on it and their MP3 policy.
                  -the least famous person you've never heard of.

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                  • LastActionHero
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 2453

                    #69
                    Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

                    Keep in mind that you won't be able to play online without PS+ on the PS4.

                    Considering all the great games they're throwing in every month with PS+ it's a far better deal than Xbox Live.

                    But if you don't plan on playing online you can still get all the patches and updates and what not so I think it's a fair deal. if you think about the costs that come with keeping such a service running smoothly Sony couldn't keep it free I'm afraid.
                    "When it's all set and done, reality is the best innovation."

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                    • lhslancers
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 3589

                      #70
                      Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

                      Originally posted by legacyme3
                      "I will never pay for a MU subscription, I will never pay for PS+. All that other extra stuff on the XMB that costs money, I will never buy except for MLB.TV"

                      More people than Sony would like to admit. I've talked to several of my friends about the PS4 and the MU subscription that is required if you want music on your PS4. They were pretty unanimous in their disinterest in MU. PS+ some are willing to pay for because it pays for itself with all the free games, discounts, and exclusive stuff that they get. If I had the money, I'd probably get PS+ too, because it serves a purpose, unlike MU.

                      I think ultimately, Sony will realize no one gives a damn about MU, and back off on it and their MP3 policy.
                      All those free games you get through a sub for Plus go bye bye if you discontinue membership correct?

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                      • Knight165
                        *ll St*r
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 24964

                        #71
                        Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

                        Originally posted by lhslancers
                        All those free games you get through a sub for Plus go bye bye if you discontinue membership correct?
                        Do you still get a free rounds of golf at the golf club once you're not a member?


                        M.K.
                        Knight165
                        All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                        • dalger21
                          #realtalk
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 1932

                          #72
                          Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

                          Originally posted by lhslancers
                          All those free games you get through a sub for Plus go bye bye if you discontinue membership correct?
                          Yes unless you sign back up for PS+

                          Originally posted by Curahee
                          I wonder how many people there are out there like me....

                          I will never pay for a MU subscription, I will never pay for PS+. All that other extra stuff on the XMB that costs money, I will never buy except for MLB.TV.
                          I rarely buy a game brand new, other than The Show. I usually only rent or buy used.

                          Sony is literally getting the minimum dollar from me.
                          If you do not plan on playing anything MP then you don't really need PS+...unless, of course you don't want free games. But I get your sentiment.
                          est 1978

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                          • Curahee
                            100 Miles To Go
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 4009

                            #73
                            Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

                            Ive contemplated PS+ but I don't really play online. The only time I ever play online is MLBTS HRD and I can live without that.
                            I'm not bashing online or online players, but with a job, 2 kids and cycle training I get very little time for gaming and thats usually spent on The Show trying to finish my Franchise.

                            Plus, every game I have attempted to play online has lost my interest due to cheaters or immature players and "Ain't nobody got time for that!"

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                            • HustlinOwl
                              All Star
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 9713

                              #74
                              Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

                              Originally posted by Curahee
                              Ive contemplated PS+ but I don't really play online. The only time I ever play online is MLBTS HRD and I can live without that.
                              I'm not bashing online or online players, but with a job, 2 kids and cycle training I get very little time for gaming and thats usually spent on The Show trying to finish my Franchise.

                              Plus, every game I have attempted to play online has lost my interest due to cheaters or immature players and "Ain't nobody got time for that!"
                              Several good leagues here on OS

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                              • Curahee
                                100 Miles To Go
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 4009

                                #75
                                Re: Sounds of the Show possibly dead on Next-Gen

                                Originally posted by HustlinOwl
                                Several good leagues here on OS

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