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  • BrianU
    MVP
    • Nov 2008
    • 1565

    #46
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

    Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
    If one wanted to unnaturally influence the game to reduce the number of starters with under 3.00 ERA's, could this be done with a simple adjusting of sliders? And if so, which one(s)?
    I believe the only slider that affects franchise simulations is the Injury slider. Something to keep in mind with all these simmed stats, while they look really good they would probably look even better if the injury slider was moved up before simming. I did some research last year and found simming with injury slider on 10 gave the most accurate amount of injuries per month/season. We assume that many injuries is unrealistic but as in many cases the statistics say otherwise. I found out how many players go on the DL every year per team and felt pretty confident injury slider 10 was most realistic for simming. In-game is a different story. I believe 1.5 injuries per week was the number I found of injuries per MLB team. I'll be testing that again this year but I am sure i'll find raising injuries will be the way to go for accuracy's sake.

    It would be pretty easy to just adjust a handful of player ratings of some pitchers if you really wanted to see lower ERAs. I prefer playing with Willard's Hybrid roster that rerates every player (MLB + minor leaguer) according to ZiPs projections for 2014 which uses OSFM as a base but that won't be out for a few months. You can find that in the Roster forum!

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    • tessl
      All Star
      • Apr 2007
      • 5685

      #47
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

      One thing I noticed - unless I overlooked someone no generated players made the 25 man roster of any team.

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      • Jibbler
        Banned
        • Jan 2011
        • 1001

        #48
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

        Originally posted by Sco291
        Is there a reason why Tanaka isn't in this game? Or will he be introduced in a roster update? Not a huge deal if I have to create him but....looking at my Yankees lineup/rotation I am seriously stoked to start a franchise with them on PS4.

        Big thanks NYYanks26, cheers!
        he will be the first guy created when I do the yankees for OSFM, yes he will be in the April 8 update but that update will be a created player anyway

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        • KMRblue1027
          MVP
          • Oct 2011
          • 1029

          #49
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

          I think they got the Phils virtually perfect except I'd switch Jimmy and Chase's overalls and Lee should probably be a few points higher. He's been constantly the 5th best SP for what 5 years in a row?
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          • Heroesandvillains
            MVP
            • May 2009
            • 5974

            #50
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

            Originally posted by BrianU
            I believe the only slider that affects franchise simulations is the Injury slider. Something to keep in mind with all these simmed stats, while they look really good they would probably look even better if the injury slider was moved up before simming. I did some research last year and found simming with injury slider on 10 gave the most accurate amount of injuries per month/season. We assume that many injuries is unrealistic but as in many cases the statistics say otherwise. I found out how many players go on the DL every year per team and felt pretty confident injury slider 10 was most realistic for simming. In-game is a different story. I believe 1.5 injuries per week was the number I found of injuries per MLB team. I'll be testing that again this year but I am sure i'll find raising injuries will be the way to go for accuracy's sake.

            It would be pretty easy to just adjust a handful of player ratings of some pitchers if you really wanted to see lower ERAs. I prefer playing with Willard's Hybrid roster that rerates every player (MLB + minor leaguer) according to ZiPs projections for 2014 which uses OSFM as a base but that won't be out for a few months. You can find that in the Roster forum!
            I believe the Manager Hook and pitcher stamina sliders are also used in the sim-engine.

            I could be mistaken on that but I'm pretty sure it's more than just the one you mentioned. Or maybe I'm wrong?

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            • BrianU
              MVP
              • Nov 2008
              • 1565

              #51
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

              Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
              I believe the Manager Hook and pitcher stamina sliders are also used in the sim-engine.

              I could be mistaken on that but I'm pretty sure it's more than just the one you mentioned. Or maybe I'm wrong?
              No I think you are correct. I have forgotten all of my little The Show tricks soon enough I will be back up to speed! Those should be the only three though. So you can tweak the Innings pitched as far as sim stats without making ratings edits by using those sliders.

              Assuming everything looks good innings pitched and saves wise, as they do so far in these sims, I will be making a slider save called 'Simulation' with everything set to 5 except injuries which is 10 that I load for when I simulate CPU vs CPU games. Then I load my normal sliders when I play for reals. A little inconvenient but accuracy is paramount!
              Last edited by BrianU; 03-26-2014, 04:56 PM.

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              • Grnngld
                Rookie
                • Mar 2010
                • 113

                #52
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

                Originally posted by BrianU
                Another forum poster, Christian9, gave him this spreadsheet he made of a simulated year 1 of MLB 14. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwGR...N1UHpxbzQ/edit

                A few typos in there I think but the sim stats look really good imo. Strikeouts look way better than last year. Only big issue is the amount of Steals are crazy high but it shouldn't be a hard fix for the devs if they decide to patch it (If we make enough noise!)

                Download the file and open it in LibreOffice or Excel if it's cut off on Google Spreadsheets to see the full table.
                Just for the record, I think the spreadsheet is missing home runs.

                Complete Games still seems high. Last year only 1 pitcher from both leagues managed 5 complete games and only 3 pitchers had 4. In the sim stats here, all top 10 pitchers in both leagues had 5 or more complete games.

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                • bfielder
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 16

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Archie56
                  In all fairness, Verlander did have an off year last year. It wasn't until the very end of the year and into the playoffs where he pitched like the Verlander of old. Like I've told many people, I blame Kate Upton for his down year. haha so yeah, I'm not complaining about King Felix having a higher rating than him.
                  No doubt about him having a bad year but still. Fernandez was great, but not better than a lot of guys that he's ranked above. Overall rankings seem pretty good though.

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                  • bfielder
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 16

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Flaxseed Oil
                    Nova a 75 is BS. Dude has a 29-19 record the last 3 years and had a 3.10 ERA last season with 2 shutouts. BS.
                    Settle down.

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                    • Ghost Of The Year
                      Turn Left. Repeat.
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 6384

                      #55
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

                      Originally posted by Flaxseed Oil
                      Nova a 75 is BS. Dude has a 29-19 record the last 3 years and had a 3.10 ERA last season with 2 shutouts. BS.
                      A closer examination finds Nova's record from 2011-2013 to be 37-18 which really isn't an indictment on a pitcher but rather, the team he has the good or bad fortune to be with.
                      As for his ERA, in the same time frame as his W-L record, that 3.10 ballons to over 3.90 and closer to 4. Still, not shabby.
                      I suspect, if we could see his durability rating, that may explain, if it is indeed lower than one would hope for, to be what lowers his OVR. If this needs adjusted it could put him over 80. MAYBE.
                      I def can't wait till Tuesday to give this game a good test ride lol
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                      • hysteria499
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 266

                        #56
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

                        Well least tommy hunter will be decent in the pen. Matusz a nasty left specialist is a 60 overall? McFarland is rated better? Weeks is rated better then Flaherty? Tillman a 16 game winner is rated at 78 overall? Also I guess Nelson Cruz had not signed yet in time for the roster? I am confused but I noticed this trend with other teams as well. Some pitcher rated better then what their records and stats show and some rated not high enough. Same with some players. Glad we can change the overall under the rosters.
                        Last edited by hysteria499; 03-26-2014, 05:43 PM.

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                        • Jibbler
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1001

                          #57
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

                          Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                          A closer examination finds Nova's record from 2011-2013 to be 37-18 which really isn't an indictment on a pitcher but rather, the team he has the good or bad fortune to be with.
                          As for his ERA, in the same time frame as his W-L record, that 3.10 ballons to over 3.90 and closer to 4. Still, not shabby.
                          I suspect, if we could see his durability rating, that may explain, if it is indeed lower than one would hope for, to be what lowers his OVR. If this needs adjusted it could put him over 80. MAYBE.
                          I def can't wait till Tuesday to give this game a good test ride lol

                          Yep
                          I wish people would stop looking at overalls and assuming that because someone is rated 75 they are bad. overall stat is so overrated in the show, people need to look at the other important stats. Hell you could make a pitcher overall go higher by putting his fielding stats up

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                          • BravoSir
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 55

                            #58
                            I can't see how Julio Teheran and Mike Minor are 80 and 82, respectively.

                            Teheran: 14-8, 3.20 ERA
                            Minor: 13-9, 3.21 ERA

                            And Heyward should be higher than a 84.

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                            • Sco291
                              Pro
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 557

                              #59
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

                              Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                              Yep, he pulled a Barry Bonds and wants to be known as Reggie Stocker. But srsly, he will be in an update as soon as he appears in a meaningful big league game, and the proper paper work goes thru the red tape nightmare.
                              LOL ahh Reggie Stocker. Legend.

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                              • seanjeezy
                                The Future
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 3347

                                #60
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Screenshots - Starting Lineups, Pitcher Rotations and Ratings

                                So many people bringing up W-L record and ERA, both of which are completely irrelevant to how OVR is calculated...

                                IP
                                H/9
                                HR/9
                                K/9
                                BB/9

                                MPH
                                Command
                                Movement

                                Pretty self-explanatory when you think about it... For non rookies there really isn't any subjectivity involved, the stats are plugged into a ratings generator.
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