Uniform Errors/Omissions

[Shaffer26]

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Best jerseys in baseball. Love em.

[SilverBullet1929]

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Sometimes a team will release something and then think better of it. The best example I have (and I've used it a number of times) was when the Rangers introduced a two toned batting helmet. It was blue in front and red in the back and was metallic almost to the point of looking bedazzled. The team introduced them with the new uniforms, and then the team (and I want to think it was Nolan Ryan himself) said they looked awful and they never saw the playing field. These helmets were in both 2kX and the Show for nearly two years until the style guide was updated.

If I remember correctly, the Rockies did wear this combination to start out with when they were first introduced, but they moved to the black undersleeves when the team hit a hot streak. For reference, I have a picture when they did wear the purple undersleeves.

As for updating the style guide; that falls to the individual clubs. The best way to get them changed is to contact the clubs in whatever medium you choose and to inquire about them. Some clubs are receptive, but most clubs will give you a form letter or nothing in response. It's really the luck of the draw in these things.



The colors are likely right in the game, but I'm becoming convinced that the lighting is throwing off some of the shades. I know this has been addressed in the PS4 version (i.e. they "cracked the code" on lighting), but this has been an issue on the PS3 in the past. Hopefully they will look into this in the future.

To ur first point I absolutely understand what ur saying because I remember the issue with the Rangers helmets but I think that's a different issue than what I brought up. The Rockies wore purple sleeves in 2002 I believe it was, fine. Then in reality they switched to black sleeves, fine. A few years ago The Show had the black sleeves in the game correctly. Every since then the Rockies absolutely have not worn the purple sleeves... So why did the Show last year go back to the purple sleeves if nothing changed in reality? Ur point with the Rangers helmets would fit here if say in The Show 15 the game suddenly brings back the two toned helmets which would be ridiculous cuz they haven't brought them back in reality. The issue here is The Show changing things, not the teams.

Also now that I think of it. Someone should take a screen shot of like The Show 10 or 11, maybe even 12 and straight up ask SCEA, style guide issues aside how did this jersey go from black sleeves back to purple?

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[Perfect Zero]

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To ur first point I absolutely understand what ur saying because I remember the issue with the Rangers helmets but I think that's a different issue than what I brought up. The Rockies wore purple sleeves in 2002 I believe it was, fine. Then in reality they switched to black sleeves, fine. A few years ago The Show had the black sleeves in the game correctly. Every since then the Rockies absolutely have not worn the purple sleeves... So why did the Show last year go back to the purple sleeves if nothing changed in reality? Ur point with the Rangers helmets would fit here if say in The Show 15 the game suddenly brings back the two toned helmets which would be ridiculous cuz they haven't brought them back in reality. The issue here is The Show changing things, not the teams.

It is very possible that they got it wrong when they put the black sleeves in and had to go back to purple. I do not know why they went back, but that is the most logical explanation since they used purple in the first place. It's not like SCEA goes through their uniform slots and remarks "You know what will really make people flip their lids? If we changed a uniform for no reason what-so-ever?"

[kehlis]

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Just a general request/warning.

It hasn't been a problem at all so this isn't directed at anyone but I just ask that we keep the style guide discussion out of this thread.

I'm okay with the thread being open to point out omissions or errors and whatnot but I don't want to see the style guide debate, we all know that The Show is bound to it.

[bronxbombers21325]

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However the Rockies Black Alt...they didnt wear it last year..but I dont see how they would have it correct in the past and then randomly update the style guide with purple sleeves that they wore one time WAY back in the past.

Exactly. in MLB 11 they had the uniform correct, then it just randomly changed to something I don't ever remember being worn but maybe once. Same for the Rays. The correct light blue jersey was correct in MLB 12, but was randomly changed to that abomination of a throwback jersey. Some of these style guide additions are questionable to say the least.

[kehlis]

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Well that lasted for a post.

[kehlis]

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It's also very important to note that a lot of team's designate their starting pitcher as the one who determines what jersey they wear on any given day.

So, despite the fact that teams have to pick an alternate home, and an alternate road, there are times in real life wear you will see the starting pitcher pick the alternate away jersey to wear for a home start.

That isn't something The Show can plan for.

[SilverBullet1929]

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It is very possible that they got it wrong when they put the black sleeves in and had to go back to purple. I do not know why they went back, but that is the most logical explanation since they used purple in the first place. It's not like SCEA goes through their uniform slots and remarks "You know what will really make people flip their lids? If we changed a uniform for no reason what-so-ever?"

Well if they had it wrong for so many years and MLB let them get away with it, there is obviously no support to the thought of them being forced to adhere to the guide. If they could get the Rockies sleeves wrong for a few games in a row, might as well get more things wrong from now on.

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[merchant1874]

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Id like to know where they got the phantom marlins BP hat from.

That hat just doesn't exist anywhere.

[SilverBullet1929]

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Id like to know where they got the phantom marlins BP hat from.

That hat just doesn't exist anywhere.

Oh yes this is killing me. Especially since they had it right last year.

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[dran1984]

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Oh yes this is killing me. Especially since they had it right last year.

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It seems something really got screwed up with the uniforms this year...but i have a feeling alot of these issues will be the same for the ps4 version if the devs didn't catch these mistakes in time.

[Knight165]

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Well if they had it wrong for so many years and MLB let them get away with it, there is obviously no support to the thought of them being forced to adhere to the guide. If they could get the Rockies sleeves wrong for a few games in a row, might as well get more things wrong from now on.

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Oh...so if you speed through a MPH zone for 9 times and "get away" with it....then are given a warning when caught the 10th time....it makes perfect sense to say "**** it!".
Brilliant.


M.K.
Knight165

[merchant1874]

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Oh...so if you speed through a MPH zone for 9 times and "get away" with it....then are given a warning when caught the 10th time....it makes perfect sense to say "**** it!".
Brilliant.


M.K.
Knight165

Maybe the style guide just isn't as strict as it's made out to be.

I wonder if someone from MLB goes through MLB games with a fine tooth comb?

Between the old 2k game and the show if there is an "MLB guy" checking the games he isn't very good at his job as both have/had multiple uniform errors.

[Knight165]

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Maybe the style guide just isn't as strict as it's made out to be.

I wonder if someone from MLB goes through MLB games with a fine tooth comb?

Between the old 2k game and the show if there is an "MLB guy" checking the games he isn't very good at his job as both have/had multiple uniform errors.

I don't think you're quite grasping at who's doing the checking.

Your company is handed the guide.
You are told to comply with the guide.
The legal department of your company tells you....stick by the guide....we're not getting any fines.
If the MLB finds anything really out of the ordinary, I'm sure they will put your company in check.
So there is not one person from just one agency checking these things.
I would say that SCEA probably finds more inconsistencies(that might indeed be correct IRL but doesn't fit the guide) than anyone at the MLB might.
SCEA is very committed to following the guidelines that the MLB and MLBPA put forth. Their relationship with those organizations is obviously very important to them as is their relationship with their fanbase.
Sometimes when inconsistencies arise that might put the two "at odds" it seems like neither is yielding or understanding.
Tough spot for the devs.
I'm glad to see that the users here are so understanding though.

M.K.
Knight165

[merchant1874]

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I don't think you're quite grasping at who's doing the checking.

Your company is handed the guide.
You are told to comply with the guide.
The legal department of your company tells you....stick by the guide....we're not getting any fines.
If the MLB finds anything really out of the ordinary, I'm sure they will put your company in check.
So there is not one person from just one agency checking these things.
I would say that SCEA probably finds more inconsistencies(that might indeed be correct IRL but doesn't fit the guide) than anyone at the MLB might.
SCEA is very committed to following the guidelines that the MLB and MLBPA put forth. Their relationship with those organizations is obviously very important to them as is their relationship with their fanbase.
Sometimes when inconsistencies arise that might put the two "at odds" it seems like neither is yielding or understanding.
Tough spot for the devs.
I'm glad to see that the users here are so understanding though.

M.K.
Knight165

I absolutely grasp the style guide and the legal requirements.

It still doesn't mask errors and incorrect artistry.