Full Minors Roster for '09

**BleacherCreature** · 04-11-2009, 11:59 PM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Originally posted by footballislife

My guess is no.
Knight does however make a Legends roster that will probably include these players maybe your lineup could be.

C-
1B- McGwire
2b- Alomar
3B- Camanitti (SP)
SS- A-Roid (Texas)
LF- Bonds
CF- Sosa
RF- Palmerio
SP- Clemens
DH- Canseco

Actually that is one heck of a lineup...

Not to mention huge profits for syringe companies

**Knight165** · 04-12-2009, 12:02 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Originally posted by GoBucs09

I'm a free agent too!!! I don't think anyone would sign me though

I'd sign you over Bonds!

Murphy will get the treatment....I gotta get him batting second anyway!

Heck..if I were Jerry Manuel...and dead stuck with Castillo...I would have this lineup

Reyes
Castillo
Murphy(I know...no homer power but neither did Mex!)
Delgado
Beltran
Wright
Church
Schnieder
Pitcher

If I had my druthers...I'd start Cora over Castillo at this point. Ugh..

C potential is about 50-50...or 40-60 I'd say....platoon maybe bench
A-Superstars..very good regulars
B-Great...very good regular
C-possible regular-platoon player
D-probably not-bench/fill player-minor league regular
All with some degree of variance as far as what will happen with the most variance in the B-C guys

M.K.
Knight165

**preztommy** · 04-12-2009, 12:07 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Shhhh.....Castillo had 4 hits today, would've been 5, but he had a hit takken away.. :wink:

**Cubbie-Wan** · 04-12-2009, 12:10 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Knight
your game play Roster edits is the one everyone is waiting for?
the last one of the 3 rosters

The 3th roster is the best? because i want the best, no matter if i have to wait until abril 20th'

**levalution** · 04-12-2009, 12:30 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Originally posted by Knight165

I'd sign you over Bonds!

Murphy will get the treatment....I gotta get him batting second anyway!

Heck..if I were Jerry Manuel...and dead stuck with Castillo...I would have this lineup

Reyes
Castillo
Murphy(I know...no homer power but neither did Mex!)
Delgado
Beltran
Wright
Church
Schnieder
Pitcher

If I had my druthers...I'd start Cora over Castillo at this point. Ugh..

C potential is about 50-50...or 40-60 I'd say....platoon maybe bench
A-Superstars..very good regulars
B-Great...very good regular
C-possible regular-platoon player
D-probably not-bench/fill player-minor league regular
All with some degree of variance as far as what will happen with the most variance in the B-C guys

M.K.
Knight165

Thanks!

Do i understand correctly then, the mets 2 top picks last year Ike Davis, and Reese Havens with their C potential are nothing more then 50-50 regulars/platoon guys? Next question...any way to get their potential up (is potential editable anyway?)?

**CArty** · 04-12-2009, 12:43 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Hey Knight...
Im a first time poster and would like to thank you for all you do. Ive read your releasing three rosters. Can you tell me what the difference is between them? I read something about SCEA stock but IDK what that means.

thanks: Carty

**Knight165** · 04-12-2009, 01:31 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Originally posted by CArty

Hey Knight...
Im a first time poster and would like to thank you for all you do. Ive read your releasing three rosters. Can you tell me what the difference is between them? I read something about SCEA stock but IDK what that means.

thanks: Carty

The stock ratings are me taking the original attributes that SCEA gave them and putting them back to the MLB players....that I had to change to get the MLB batting orders to stick(due to the lineups getting tossed around when you started a franchise(ie...Sizemore/Soriano batting 3rd/5th instead of 1st...Helton batting second etc...)

This first release will have the edits to get the lineups correct.
The second...back to SCEA original numbers...
The third...some tweaks I like to make for gameplay and stats..just my own "recipe"
First one complete...will be next weekend.

levalution...

I didn't mean to imply that's a set in stone thing with the potentials...and I should upgrade C into MLB regular category also. C potential players will need more attention with training and coaches to progress in a more timely manner.....and according to SCEA...all of those letter grades have the potential to be gems/busts and anywhere in between...so you gotta keep your eye out.

M.K.
Knight165

**Navi's_Navy** · 04-12-2009, 01:58 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Originally posted by levalution

Thanks!

Do i understand correctly then, the mets 2 top picks last year Ike Davis, and Reese Havens with their C potential are nothing more then 50-50 regulars/platoon guys? Next question...any way to get their potential up (is potential editable anyway?)?

They're both probably Cs with Davis being a borderline B-... I know its a small sample size but a sub .100 isoP from a 1B who is 21 at low A in 240 PA is pretty damning. If he doesn't generate power then he doesn't have much. He's not fast, he's not disciplined, he's a pretty average middle infielder if he never develops power. If he doesn't develop then I'm afraid his skillset doesn't fit for a major league role.

If you want to edit their potential you're going to have to edit a position player with B potential who you want to be a C and turn him into Ike Davis. The player with B potential's stats should be transposed onto the Cpotential Ike Davis.

**Speedy** · 04-12-2009, 01:58 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Originally posted by Knight165

I'd sign you over Bonds!

Murphy will get the treatment....I gotta get him batting second anyway!

Heck..if I were Jerry Manuel...and dead stuck with Castillo...I would have this lineup

Reyes
Castillo
Murphy(I know...no homer power but neither did Mex!)
Delgado
Beltran
Wright
Church
Schnieder
Pitcher

If I had my druthers...I'd start Cora over Castillo at this point. Ugh..

C potential is about 50-50...or 40-60 I'd say....platoon maybe bench
A-Superstars..very good regulars
B-Great...very good regular
C-possible regular-platoon player
D-probably not-bench/fill player-minor league regular
All with some degree of variance as far as what will happen with the most variance in the B-C guys

M.K.
Knight165

I'm not a Mets fan at all (in fact I'm a Larrrrrry fan

) but why would Wright be hitting 6th?

**Knight165** · 04-12-2009, 02:20 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Originally posted by WakeUnc2321

I'm not a Mets fan at all (in fact I'm a Larrrrrry fan

) but why would Wright be hitting 6th?

Have you seen Wright hitting lately?

In trouble?...men on base?...David Wright up....give him two to foul off.....then throw him a hook or even better a slider...that is outside and you got yourself a K

M.K.
Knight165

**ThirdDegree5803** · 04-12-2009, 02:27 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Wright did very little against Reds pitching, and we are no where near our best atm...

but knight just wanted to say holla and props to your amazing editing skills and scouting ability (why don't you work for mlb?)

question: the complete full minors roster, your final version, when you said your own "tweaking" does that mean the pitch edits and stance edits? or those plus your own attribute tweaking...

**jess5** · 04-12-2009, 10:21 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

First off thx for everything two questions. Will the first release next weekend be put into the vault. And does the first release encompass everything I would need. Ie line up fix full minors od rosters etc. Thx again for all the hard work

**preztommy** · 04-12-2009, 10:51 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Originally posted by jess5

First off thx for everything two questions. Will the first release next weekend be put into the vault. And does the first release encompass everything I would need. Ie line up fix full minors od rosters etc. Thx again for all the hard work

Yes, and yes.

**B_rad13** · 04-12-2009, 11:00 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Originally posted by preztommy

Shhhh.....Castillo had 4 hits today, would've been 5, but he had a hit takken away.. :wink:

Good for the mets, they are still behind my Marlins. :wink:

**gman2774** · 04-12-2009, 11:08 AM

Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

Knight....First, thanks for all your hard work. I truly appreciate your efforts. My question centers around the player attribute edits you've had to make in order to fix the line ups. I've read a lot of posts where folks are afraid the changes are significant enough to radically change statistical outcomes. Knowing your rosters from the past, I don't think this is true and I believe it's probably overstated? Can you set the record straight? I've read your comments on exceptions like the Indians (i.e. Sizemore). However, it's my assumption that for most teams, the changes made were minimal and will have a small if any noticeable impact on stats. Can you please share your opinion? Thanks again for your work.

Full Minors Roster for '09

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