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  • marinerz
    Rookie
    • Mar 2005
    • 41

    #91
    Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

    Aaron Gleeman blogs about the Minnesota Twins and has great reference material for what he considers the Top 40 prospects. He really knows his stuff and explains in detail anything and everything about the players. Pasted below is the example of his #1 thru #5 explanations and projections.

    You can find the rest the other 35 prospects at http://www.aarongleeman.com/2009_02_...67755278927462

    1. Aaron Hicks | Center Field | DOB: 10/89 | Bats: Switch | Draft: 2008-1

    YEAR LV PA AVG OBP SLG HR XBH BB SO
    2008 RK 204 .318 .409 .491 4 18 28 32

    Hicks was a two-way star in high school and most teams liked him more as a pitcher, but prior to the draft he made it clear that he wanted to be a hitter and the Twins selected him as a center fielder with the 14th overall pick. Called "the finest prep outfielder/pitcher prospect in the greater Los Angeles area since Daryl Strawberry in the early 1980s" by Baseball America, Hicks lived up to the hype in his debut by hitting .318/.409/.491 with a dozen steals over 45 games in the rookie-level Gulf Coast League.

    Because the GCL is an incredibly pitcher-friendly environment those raw stats actually underrate Hicks' performance, which was the equivalent of hitting .332/.411/.574 in a league with MLB-level scoring. His strong 32-to-28 strikeout-to-walk ratio is also very encouraging, because high-school draftees typically lack patience and drawing walks isn't something the Twins are known for stressing. Hopefully he can follow the Joe Mauer path by bringing a disciplined approach at the plate with him to the organization.

    Hicks was considered one of the draft's elite athletes and it would have been tough for his pro debut to go much better, as he displayed every tool at the age of 18. Dominating rookie-ball hardly guarantees big-league success, but Hicks' combination of physical ability and baseball skills is extremely rare for someone so young and long-term ceilings don't climb much higher than a switch-hitting center fielder with a mid-90s fastball, track speed, plate discipline, and an impact bat.


    2. Ben Revere | Center Field | DOB: 5/88 | Bats: Left | Draft: 2007-1

    YEAR LV PA AVG OBP SLG HR XBH BB SO
    2007 RK 216 .325 .388 .461 0 16 13 20
    2008 A- 374 .379 .433 .497 1 28 27 31

    Roundly criticized for taking Revere out of a Kentucky high school with the 28th overall pick in the 2007 draft because most projections pegged him as a third-round talent, the Twins are looking pretty smart so far after the diminutive center fielder led all of minor-league baseball in batting average last year at low Single-A. Revere has hit .360 with 65 steals through 133 pro games, posting a .900 OPS that rates 30 percent above average for his leagues despite a total of one homer in 590 plate appearances.

    Revere is 5-foot-9 on a good day and lack of power potential is why he was considered an over-draft in the first round, but he's shown solid gap power with 23 doubles and 20 triples in 531 at-bats. In fact, his .118 Isolated Power last year was exactly average for the Midwest League. Revere's value is always going to come from getting on base and using his speed to swipe bags and track down fly balls, but developing some semblance of power is crucial because he's not going to hit .360 forever.

    If he were to hit .300 in the majors with the type of power and plate discipline that he's shown thus far Revere would be at .300/.350/.420, which along with a weak throwing arm would give him upside that resembles Juan Pierre or Lance Johnson. If his power improves enough for Revere to be a 10-homer threat then his ceiling is more along the lines of Johnny Damon or Kenny Lofton. He's been great thus far, but if you're picking nits the components of his performance aren't quite as encouraging long term.


    3. Wilson Ramos | Catcher | DOB: 8/87 | Bats: Right | Sign: Venezuela

    YEAR LV PA AVG OBP SLG HR XBH BB SO
    2006 RK 172 .286 .339 .435 3 16 12 14
    2007 A- 316 .291 .345 .438 8 26 19 61
    2008 A+ 500 .288 .346 .434 13 38 37 103

    Signed out of Venezuela as a 16-year-old in 2004, Wilson Ramos debuted at rookie-ball in 2006, spent 2007 at low Single-A, and played last season at high Single-A, posting eerily similar offensive numbers at each stop. While hitting .290/.345/.435 in three straight seasons doesn't look all that spectacular at first glance, that type of production is outstanding when it comes from a good defensive catcher playing against significantly older competition in pitcher-friendly environments.

    He played last season as a 20-year-old at high Single-A, ranking 14th in the Florida State League in OPS. The league's two best OPS totals belonged to a 24-year-old and a 27-year-old, the average age of the 13 guys ahead of Ramos was 23, and only two other catchers were in the top 40. Catching is so physically demanding and driven by defense that major-league backstops were five percent below the MLB average offensively in 2008. For his career Ramos has been 13 percent above average.

    He's also no slouch defensively, earning solid reviews for his glovework behind the plate and gunning down 42 percent of steal attempts over the past two years. Ramos strikes out quite a bit and like most players his age has sub par plate discipline, but he's a .288 career hitter who looks capable of 20-plus homers as he matures and is far from disastrous in terms of strike-zone control. Even holding his own as a 21-year-old at Double-A would solidify Ramos as one of baseball's top catching prospects.



    4. Angel Morales | Center Field | DOB: 11/89 | Bats: Right | Draft: 2007-3

    YEAR LV PA AVG OBP SLG HR XBH BB SO
    2007 RK- 143 .256 .357 .405 2 11 12 44
    2008 RK 218 .301 .413 .623 15 28 26 72

    Ben Revere
    got most of the attention by flirting with .400 for much of the year, but on a per-game basis Angel Morales was actually the Twins' best minor-league hitter last season. Despite being 18 months younger than Revere and six months younger than 2008 first-round pick Aaron Hicks, Morales batted .301/.413/.623 in 54 games at short-season Elizabethton, leading the rookie-level Appalachian League in homers and slugging percentage.

    Morales' numbers are plenty great on their own, but become even better after accounting for the fact that the Appalachian League as a whole hit .262/.331/.387. Slugging .623 in an environment where the average slugging percentage was a measly .387 is equivalent to slugging .670 in an environment with MLB-level offense. Morales' breakout consists of just 218 plate appearances, so there are sample-size issues at play, but an 18-year-old center fielder with an adjusted line of .303/.415/.670 is pretty sick.

    Morales has whiffed 116 times in just 92 pro games and striking out in 32 percent of your trips to the plate at rookie-ball is a major red flag, but the 2007 third-round pick has shown a unique combination of power, speed, and plate discipline for someone who will be a teenager for the entire 2009 season. He's a very long way from the big leagues, but few Twins prospects can match Morales in terms of raw potential and he'd get a lot more attention if not for Hicks and Revere being in the same system.


    5. Shooter Hunt | Starter | DOB: 8/86 | Throws: Right | Draft: 2008-1

    YEAR LV G GS ERA IP H HR SO BB
    2008 RK 4 4 0.47 19.0 4 0 34 6
    A- 7 7 5.46 31.1 26 2 34 27

    Rarely do the Twins target young pitchers with sub par control, but Shooter Hunt's electric stuff was too much to pass up with the 31st overall pick in June's draft. Ranked by Baseball America as the draft's fourth-best pitching prospect, he had a 2.65 ERA, .204 opponent's average, and 230 strikeouts in 200.1 innings at Tulane University and whiffed 68 in 50.1 frames while holding opponents to a .172 mark in his pro debut. However, Hunt struggled to throw strikes once he moved from rookie-ball to Single-A.

    After walking 3.8 batters per nine innings at Tulane he handed out 27 free passes over 31.1 innings at Beloit, which led to a bloated 5.46 ERA despite opponents hitting .230 with a .328 slugging percentage. Learning to harness his raw stuff will be the biggest challenge for Hunt, but if the Twins can get him to fit into their strike-throwing mold he has legitimate No. 1 starter potential with a fastball that regularly clocks in at 92-95 miles per hour and a big-breaking curveball. Oh, and a great name.

    For an organization that has long been flush with command/control pitchers with middle-of-the-rotation upside Hunt sticks out very much like Matt Garza once did, so hopefully the Twins can avoid becoming similarly frustrated if he's equally slow to change his stripes. Hunt will likely begin this season back at Single-A, but has the potential to move quickly if he can cut the walks and could be a bullpen option by 2010 if there's no room for him yet in the rotation.



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    • Maynard
      Banned
      • Feb 2007
      • 831

      #92
      Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

      i cant offer to much by way of assistance in these rosters. I could gather info on the indians minors or something like that if you guys needed help. Other then that i dont know what else i could offer.

      One suggestion i had, and i dont mean this to be self serving. But you know this thread is gonna get loaded up with the inevitable "are we there yet" questions. That tends to lead to alot of responses from the supporters that lead to some negativity in the thread.

      One thought was for knight to edit his original post with a estimated timeline for completion of that various sets. Maybe someone familiar with the process could create a document so knight can copy and paste it into the first post to explain the process involved so people can fully appreciate the work that goes into such an endeavor. Maybe that deadbeat Jim can explain the process since he has nothing else to do now

      jk Jim, anyways, if there is any work i can do, i would be willing to help. Just shoot me a pm with what you need.

      Thanks for the effort men!!

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      • CWSpalehoseCWS
        MVP
        • Jun 2005
        • 1028

        #93
        Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

        I got a look at some of the Sox guys in ST today, as the game was free on MLB. Mostly just equipment stuff.

        Gordon Beckham:
        - Tan glove
        - Small left wristband
        - Black batting gloves
        - Airflow helmet
        - No sunglasses or eye black.
        - No elbow guard or shin guard.
        - Bat was black on the barrel, and light tan around the handle with pine tar.

        I couldn't get a good look at his stance, since he swung at the first pitch and grounded out.

        Some info on Aaron Poreda I read in an interview:
        Said he's thinking about using "Day Dreaming (remix)" by DJ Drama or "Lollipop (remix)" by Lil Wayne & Kanye West as his entrance music. Also mentioned his Slider is greatly improved and his Changeup is more consistant than last year.
        Last edited by CWSpalehoseCWS; 03-02-2009, 06:18 PM.

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        • statnut
          Pro
          • Jul 2004
          • 566

          #94
          Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

          Guys, I have a full subscription to Baseball America(magazine and web), so if you need any informational stuff, let me know and I can look it up.

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          • Knight165
            *ll St*r
            • Feb 2003
            • 24964

            #95
            Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

            Originally posted by statnut
            Guys, I have a full subscription to Baseball America(magazine and web), so if you need any informational stuff, let me know and I can look it up.
            Thanks statnut...

            Thanks guys...I appreciate it.

            M.K.
            Knight165
            All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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            • prot22
              Rookie
              • Apr 2007
              • 122

              #96
              Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

              I'm sure you know this, but http://phuturephillies.com/ is the best site for any and all Phillies prospects information.

              Keep up the amazing work guys! I get yelled at enough by my girlfriend just for editing the rosters that YOU already did all the edits for, making it possible so that I can do MY small amounts of "extra" editing (You know what I mean). I can't imagine how bad you guys get it at home from the Mrs?!

              Personally I'm still waiting for the "next" Vince Coleman to come along before I pick my new favorite baseball prospect and team to play as my Franchise. Guess Michael Bourn wasn't the guy after all...
              Last edited by prot22; 03-02-2009, 09:16 PM.
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              All hail to Vince Coleman...the best base stealer of all time.

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              • Yankeesrule2005
                Rookie
                • Apr 2008
                • 52

                #97
                Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                hey guys i downloaded these rosters last year and they were amazing.. thank you guys so much for all ur hard work and effort... i wish i could but school is killing me right now.. but i do have a question when do u guys feel these rosters will be complete.. i mean i asked this last year and got blasted for it.. so hopfully if i ask early enough i can get an answer.. i no this isnt a easy and simple task so take ur time.. all i really asking for is a timeframe thanks...

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                • Knight165
                  *ll St*r
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 24964

                  #98
                  Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                  Originally posted by Yankeesrule2005
                  hey guys i downloaded these rosters last year and they were amazing.. thank you guys so much for all ur hard work and effort... i wish i could but school is killing me right now.. but i do have a question when do u guys feel these rosters will be complete.. i mean i asked this last year and got blasted for it.. so hopfully if i ask early enough i can get an answer.. i no this isnt a easy and simple task so take ur time.. all i really asking for is a timeframe thanks...
                  If you got blasted...it wasn't by me, right!?

                  Anyway...I'm really hoping for the second or third week in April.
                  I'm have a lot laid out already...so hopefully...everything else(life!) cooperates!

                  M.K.
                  Knight165
                  All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                  • DaGame2584
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 53

                    #99
                    Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                    Will you be posting partial rosters like you did last year? Like when you would finish maybe say the AL West & East?

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                    • Ivanhoe
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 618

                      #100
                      Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                      I'm more than willing to help out with information on the Detroit Tigers farm system (such as it is). I already have an excel sheet with the roster for MJR, AAA, AA, if that helps.

                      I'm looking forward to this roster set!

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                      • rupe
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 368

                        #101
                        Re: Full Minors Roster for '09




                        This is the site I use for my reds franchise. Hope it helps.

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                        • jude89
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 91

                          #102
                          Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                          Knight,

                          Will you be posting a file (document, excel sheet) with the all changes and additions you've made so us PS2 users can put all of your work into our own games?

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                          • abbbsinthe
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 60

                            #103
                            Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                            Is there any way to change a players potential this year? I mean they have some really good prospects like Travis Snider with a C or below? Snider is going to be amazing!

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                            • CFav
                              Cyber Griffin
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1014

                              #104
                              Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                              Originally posted by mrodrigues
                              guys here is a link to the red sox prospect site
                              Red Sox Top 20 Prospects
                              The web's number 1 source on the Boston Red Sox farm system


                              Also here is a link to the 2009 projected rosters for AAA, AA though I'd rather have the AA roster like last year where all the top prospects in A were placed on the AA roster just posted it incase it helped with player placement


                              also just a note Lars Anderson is going to get some time in the OF when he gets to AAA as listed on the Top 20 prospect page
                              Good post..Thank you from a REAL BoSox fan(ie. pre 2004) lol...:wink:


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                              • Jason_19
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 1713

                                #105
                                Re: Full Minors Roster for '09

                                Originally posted by abbbsinthe
                                Is there any way to change a players potential this year?
                                No, there's not.

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