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  • abcabc
    Pro
    • Apr 2009
    • 591

    #1291
    Re: Knights End of Season Set

    Originally posted by JaSnake16

    TD, want me to go through your durability set or just use the original re-rate set for any further changes? As far as the pitching edits, does anybody want me to look into this for a true FINAL release for Show '09. I have the time tommorrow..............the only question is do I have the will. (Duh, duh, duhhhhhhhhhhh)

    Ja, hell yeah would love to see tweaks to the pitcher side. it wouldn't be playing as real as it can if only the batters were tweaked but not the pitchers. i thought with this set the pitchers were gonna be re-done (funny when i was looking at my pitchers last week i only saw 'certain' ratings changed, like mph stamina.

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    • JaSnake16
      Knows what evil lurks...
      • Nov 2003
      • 478

      #1292
      Re: Knights End of Season Set

      Originally posted by abcabc
      Ja, hell yeah would love to see tweaks to the pitcher side. it wouldn't be playing as real as it can if only the batters were tweaked but not the pitchers. i thought with this set the pitchers were gonna be re-done (funny when i was looking at my pitchers last week i only saw 'certain' ratings changed, like mph stamina.
      I am still keeping this in the back of my head to do. Razr originally did those pitching edits for Knights initial releases what seems like millenia ago. TD was kind enough to take his time and effort to transfer those edits into Knights EOS release. I agree with you for the sake of completeness but understand that the hitting ratings alone took me an awful long time to do even using a great tool like Bahnzos database mainly because I really can't commit as much time as I would like to on a day to day basis (unfortunately). But Im still gonna try to give a shot before Show 10.

      And like I said previously, if the ratings remain the same and play the same way in Show 10, I have all the numbers already prepared and ready for input for Knights rosters in Show 10 (if he would like me to do as a version release of his set).
      OS Longtime Lurker - Extremely occasional OS Poster

      Another year, and here we go again.

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      • abcabc
        Pro
        • Apr 2009
        • 591

        #1293
        Re: Knights End of Season Set

        Originally posted by JaSnake16
        I am still keeping this in the back of my head to do. Razr originally did those pitching edits for Knights initial releases what seems like millenia ago. TD was kind enough to take his time and effort to transfer those edits into Knights EOS release. I agree with you for the sake of completeness but understand that the hitting ratings alone took me an awful long time to do even using a great tool like Bahnzos database mainly because I really can't commit as much time as I would like to on a day to day basis (unfortunately). But Im still gonna try to give a shot before Show 10.

        And like I said previously, if the ratings remain the same and play the same way in Show 10, I have all the numbers already prepared and ready for input for Knights rosters in Show 10 (if he would like me to do as a version release of his set).
        well i've pretty much jizzed in my pants... well how about this, ea.team has alot less pitchers than batters eh, so less work to do on this endeavor... what do you say... and yep if 2010 is the same you and all the nice roster contributor folks really have already done much of the prep work and would would transfer much of the data over to the 2010 edition, not having to worry that the 2009 efforts were one off. what do you say, can this be moved to the front of your head to do mate?

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        • ThirdDegree5803
          Pro
          • May 2008
          • 563

          #1294
          Re: Knights End of Season Set

          Ja, I've made some more changes to the set I even just uploaded...lemme know if you really want to do this for the last release of the 09 show...if you do I will hold off franchise play until you finish...lemme know soon! I'll upload the changed set when you are ready...

          in case you are wondering what i've done to your re-rated update:
          switched Heisey (CIN) to a C potential, swapped Bolivar (CIN minor leaguer) to a D
          switched Wood (CIN) to a B potential, used Elizardo Ramirez w/ Texas...he is now a C potential
          switched Homer Bailey to a B potential, with fake fa player...fixed his pitches to Cut Fastball, 12-6, Circle change instead of the weird scea pitches...he doesn't throw 4 either...he hits barally 3
          signed Aroldis Chapman to Cin, waived Kip Wells (maybe I shouldn't of done this, its unfair to others in a way, but I was too damn excited! Please don't hate...the Reds never do anything in the off-season! )
          lowered Garrett Jones to 73 44 64 54
          and...I think that's it...any chance you could use this set? anybody disagree w/ those changes? really didn't do much and I also plan on switching out Brandon Wood w/ ANA who is not a C potential like SCEA likes him to be...I'll upload the roster when you are ready dude...

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          • abcabc
            Pro
            • Apr 2009
            • 591

            #1295
            Re: Knights End of Season Set

            Originally posted by JaSnake16
            I am still keeping this in the back of my head to do. Razr originally did those pitching edits for Knights initial releases what seems like millenia ago. TD was kind enough to take his time and effort to transfer those edits into Knights EOS release. I agree with you for the sake of completeness but understand that the hitting ratings alone took me an awful long time to do even using a great tool like Bahnzos database mainly because I really can't commit as much time as I would like to on a day to day basis (unfortunately). But Im still gonna try to give a shot before Show 10.

            And like I said previously, if the ratings remain the same and play the same way in Show 10, I have all the numbers already prepared and ready for input for Knights rosters in Show 10 (if he would like me to do as a version release of his set).
            so what's the most tedious part, inputting all the number changes after figuring out who should be changed to what number etc.?

            i dont want to do any 'thinking' but i can (if it's this weekend) input numbers for teams for you all this weekend, I just need to know soon as possible.

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            • JaSnake16
              Knows what evil lurks...
              • Nov 2003
              • 478

              #1296
              Re: Knights End of Season Set

              Originally posted by abcabc
              so what's the most tedious part, inputting all the number changes after figuring out who should be changed to what number etc.?

              i dont want to do any 'thinking' but i can (if it's this weekend) input numbers for teams for you all this weekend, I just need to know soon as possible.
              Actually the in game inputting is the easy part. Its tabulating the average that takes a lot more time cause you have to scroll thru each individual year (3 years) for each player. The database does it by team so if a player was say on the Twins last year, the Padres the year before and the A's the year before that, I have to pick the 09 Twins, enter the data, change to the 08 Padres, copy that data down, then pick the 07 A's and do the same. It is a time consuming process but I did enjoy it with the hitters cause it really helped my understanding of the ratings system. Between work and home, free time is tough but the bit that I have Im gonna try to commit to finishing.

              Thanks for the offer though, I do truly appreciate it. I also appreciate the fact that you would like to see this completed which I hope means that you are enjoying the hitting re-rates (at least to me).
              OS Longtime Lurker - Extremely occasional OS Poster

              Another year, and here we go again.

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              • abcabc
                Pro
                • Apr 2009
                • 591

                #1297
                Re: Knights End of Season Set

                I see Ja, sounds like you either need at least a 2nd PS3 beside you and a buddy and a 2nd copy of theshow to make things faster... or a phone conference for a day as you cycle through the same players... phew. Yep I'm enjoying the hitting rerates... unfortunately i do think I'm feeling the decrease in power more so than the AI... i started my season so far at 0-3.... against the Orioles and zero HRs from my Yanks, .199 batting avg (sigh) they batted like .229 but 7 homeruns argh I messed up.

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                • gminnick9
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 137

                  #1298
                  Re: Knights End of Season Set

                  Originally posted by abcabc
                  I see Ja, sounds like you either need at least a 2nd PS3 beside you and a buddy and a 2nd copy of theshow to make things faster... or a phone conference for a day as you cycle through the same players... phew. Yep I'm enjoying the hitting rerates... unfortunately i do think I'm feeling the decrease in power more so than the AI... i started my season so far at 0-3.... against the Orioles and zero HRs from my Yanks, .199 batting avg (sigh) they batted like .229 but 7 homeruns argh I messed up.

                  I am seeing a small power shortage as well with the rerated rosters, but I am really enjoying it so far. I am playing with the Mariners actual roster as of January 14th and am 3-0 so far. I am batting around .300 as a team and have only hit one HR, but I do have 13 doubles. Cliff Lee and King Felix make a nasty one-two punch, they gave up one earned run in 18 innings, Felix's start was a no decision as it went 14 innings. Just to let everyone know, I am using Ballin095's sliders and I have posted them below if anyone is interested. I am using the the third set, might have to move to the fourth set if I am still hitting .300 after 20 games. I really enjoy the hitting sliders being as low as they are, homeruns aren't cheapies anymore when the power slider is at two.


                  Ballin095's Sliders

                  Settings

                  Difficulty: All-Star
                  Pitching Interface: Meter
                  Guess Pitch: No Feedback
                  Batting View: Offset

                  *All slider settings start from 0, so 5 would mean 5 clicks to the right from the bar being empty.

                  Note: * Means Optional Setting

                  GLOBAL SLIDERS


                  Pitch speed:* 0/0/0/0
                  Fielding errors: 7/7/7/7
                  Throwing errors: 7/7/7/7
                  (I find a good balnce with these two sliders set the way they are)
                  Fielder run speed: 0/0/0/0
                  (Runners In this game run way too fast. Plus this allows for more hit variety)
                  Fielder reaction:5/5/5/5
                  This Slider Doen't need to be tickenered with)
                  Fielder arm strength:4/4/4/4
                  (Good at where they are)
                  Baserunner speed: 5/5/5/5
                  (Doen't need to be tinckered with)
                  Baserunner steal ability:4/4/4/4
                  (Perfect balance, altough I may change to 3)
                  Baserunner steal frequency: 5/5/5/5
                  (Good at where it's at)
                  Wind: 6/6/6/6
                  (Find it perfect at this setting)
                  Injury frequency: 5/5/5/5


                  USER SLIDERS

                  Contact: 4/2/0/0
                  Power: 2/2/2/2
                  (I see the perfect amount of homeruns with these settings)
                  Timing: 6/3/0/0
                  (Really makes it so that ou need to read the pitch out of the pitcher's hand, and allows for much more deeper counts)
                  Fouls:10/10/10/10
                  (Allows for much deeper pitch counts)
                  Solid hits: 6/5/5/5
                  (This really shouldn't be bothered with being that it affect batting average)
                  Starter stamina: 5/5/5/5
                  Reliever stamina: 0/0/0/0
                  Pitcher control: 9/8/7/6
                  Pitcher consistency: 9/8/7/6
                  (These are probably the most important sliders. As discussed earler, with these setting where they are at, it really makes it so that the way you pitch is up to you. if you make a perfect pitch, just enough power, hitting the right realease point, the pitch is either going to go where you want, or around the area that you threw the pitch)

                  CPU SLIDERS

                  Contact: 0/0/0/4
                  Power: 2/2/2/2
                  (Again perfect setting)
                  Timing: 0/0/0/4
                  (Read User setting)
                  Fouls: 10/10/10/10
                  (Read User setting)
                  Solid hits: 3/5/5/7
                  (Read User setting)
                  Starter stamina: 5/5/5/5
                  Reliever stamina: 0/0/0/0
                  Pitcher Control: 1/1/1/6
                  Pitcher consistency: 2/2/2/5
                  Strike Frequency: 0/0/0/0
                  (With These settings, you really get realistic pitch counts, and really makes the game much more realistic)

                  So that's all. Thanks for viewing, and please leave feedback.

                  All On Sport's Connect As Shaun's All-Star Sliders

                  *Edit: Changed pitch speed to 0. With my new setting at 0 and batting angle, offset, this allows you time to recognize and engage the pitch coming at you.

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                  • ThirdDegree5803
                    Pro
                    • May 2008
                    • 563

                    #1299
                    Re: Knights End of Season Set

                    do you use guess pitch? what are your batting settings? when you use guess pitch don't touch your stick or it will move it from the location where you just guessed...using all of those setting changes might be screwing things up for you...the re-rates make alot of those slider settings defunct...

                    I'm only saying this b/c I am having no trouble jacking hr's with the re-rates in fact I think they are a massive help to realism...I'm seeing a wider variety of hits, outs...everything...they play very nicely...I just played my 4th game of a new franchise with this roster set w/ KC (slightly modified with potential stuff - i listed it above) and I racked up 17 hits...even jacked one out with Mike Aviles! check out mike's ratings and you'll see hr's can even come from crappier ratings...A-Rod & Tex hit some huge bombs off me as well...

                    everytime i get angry at losing i am quick to point out my settings need to be switched or i was just playing a bad team...however, the show seems to like to throw in a bit of realism...if you are in the beginning of a season dude the pitchers are going to be a little more on top of their game than in august (stamina-durability-confidence-wise) or you just might be running into some studs on the mound and aren't quite as good as you think...

                    there will be games it seems like i can't get a drop of luck and can barally get to 7 hits...

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                    • JaSnake16
                      Knows what evil lurks...
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 478

                      #1300
                      Re: Knights End of Season Set

                      Im still using Psychos set on All Star and have no problem hitting them out. My last game was a disaster LOL. Combined 8 homers. All were on crap pitching (on both parts, Pedro Strop for me got drilled and I left him in there to "take one for the team"). Hitting has been great up until last game in which there was waaaaayyyy to much offense, averaging about 7 hits per and almost 5 runs with great variety.
                      Last edited by JaSnake16; 01-17-2010, 05:56 PM.
                      OS Longtime Lurker - Extremely occasional OS Poster

                      Another year, and here we go again.

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                      • ThirdDegree5803
                        Pro
                        • May 2008
                        • 563

                        #1301
                        Re: Knights End of Season Set

                        the best way I can compare what Ja did with the ratings: cleaning up steriods in baseball

                        players like Beltran, Pujols, Ludwick would all get close to 45-50 hr's some years with SCEA's jacked up ratings...

                        Ja's fine work eliminates this...you will still see numbers come out accurate, just no odd-ball 48 jack year from some guy you wouldn't ever see cross the 30 hr plateau before let alone 25...no more Brady Anderson's with the re-rates...ja thanks for the best late christmas gift i could ever get from doing the pitch edits...thanks whomever directed me towards the fake player on the fa list as well...can't wait for '10! gonna be sick! now who's gonna buy the 60 buck game for me??? lol

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                        • gminnick9
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 137

                          #1302
                          Re: Knights End of Season Set

                          Originally posted by ThirdDegree5803
                          the best way I can compare what Ja did with the ratings: cleaning up steriods in baseball

                          players like Beltran, Pujols, Ludwick would all get close to 45-50 hr's some years with SCEA's jacked up ratings...

                          Ja's fine work eliminates this...you will still see numbers come out accurate, just no odd-ball 48 jack year from some guy you wouldn't ever see cross the 30 hr plateau before let alone 25...no more Brady Anderson's with the re-rates...ja thanks for the best late christmas gift i could ever get from doing the pitch edits...thanks whomever directed me towards the fake player on the fa list as well...can't wait for '10! gonna be sick! now who's gonna buy the 60 buck game for me??? lol

                          ThirdDegree,

                          What slider set are you using?

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                          • ThirdDegree5803
                            Pro
                            • May 2008
                            • 563

                            #1303
                            Re: Knights End of Season Set

                            never really felt the need to use a particular slider set in '09 like I did in '08...the game felt good right out of the box aside stamina problems which can be solved easily by dropping/setting User Starters 2 Relievers 2 CPU Starters 3 Relievers 2 on your sliders...that is all I have adjusted and I love the game-play & have seen little reason to user a slider-set like psycho's or whatever...

                            here is the thread talking about the stamina edits in your sliders...you also up manager hook to 8...http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2039573060

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                            • ThirdDegree5803
                              Pro
                              • May 2008
                              • 563

                              #1304
                              Re: Knights End of Season Set

                              if you hadn't noticed...the show can take a reliever with a 25 stamina, even less, and have them throw 5 innings of shut-out ball...this even happens after adjusting the stamina to help that from happening, just not as frequent b/c your relievers and starters will tire more realistically...I had Mike Lincoln come out of the pen in a sim of my last franchise and he threw 5 innings...im not sure what his exact stamina is but this is an example...this hopefully is addressed in '10 along with the dl glitch (two of my major pet-peeves)...even when your starter or reliever is out of gas (zero stamina) they can still remain on the mound and work effectively, especially if their confidence level is there...

                              with the stamina edits and changes to sliders you will have more and more relievers throw your .1 or .2 innings, and you won't see many go 2.0 or 3.0 innings on the regular like they would in a regular SCEA roster...

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                              • ThirdDegree5803
                                Pro
                                • May 2008
                                • 563

                                #1305
                                Re: Knights End of Season Set

                                did I just see in your post that Felix Hernandez went 14 innings???? are you sure you are using these rosters buddy? or are you playin on rookie?

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