O.S. Full Minors 2010

[ksig24]

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Ksig or Knight, i have read differing scouting reports on Strasburg as far as what kind of breaking pitch he throws. Coming out of spring training they say he throws a curveball, but i know with Knights first Strasburg he had a slurve as his primary breaking pitch. I have also heard slider, wondering what you guys thought you were going to give him in the Full Minor roster.

I saw Strasburg a few times last season, not because the Royals had a chance in hell at drafting him, but out of curiosity.

His main offering is a filthy two-seamed fastball that usually sits in the low 90's. He generally works off of this pitch and has excellent IQ at when to throw it. It has very late movement and sinks very late. His high 90's fastball that usually sits anywhere from 95-97 while touching 99 and triple digits, but its not his equalizer. His equalizer is his "slider" or slurve, or curveball whichever you prefer to call it, but I call it devastating! It has serious late break and nasty movement and its trajectory is anywhere from 11-7 to 12-6 and usually in the low 80's. His command with this pitch is very inconsistent however the offering is so nasty that he gets inferior hitters out with it because of its break. He also has developed a change that has been talked about as being a plus offering. My opinion is that while he will get a lot of k's he will also get a lot of weak grounders. His ability to mix in the high heat along with the well commanded 2-seamer will continue to baffle hitters at all levels.

[Scott]

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Knight if you need any help on Texas, let me know.

[BDKiiing]

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Escobar will be in the majors all year. He's the Brewers only shortstop.

he was in the me out of the box last year

[ltw0303cavs]

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That was awesome thanks Ksig, if i was going to name 4 prospects im most excited to follow are Strasburg, Pedro Alvarez, Martin Perez and Desmond Jennings. Do you agree with most scouts Perez compares very much to Santana ?

[Sacrafice]

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Mine positional without SCEA players will look like this in no order:

Catcher:
Jesus Montero
Carlos Santana
Jason Castro
Hank Conger
Derek Norris
Wil Meyers
Tony Sanchez
Travis d'Arnaud
Max Stassi
Wilson Ramos
Christian Bethancourt
Wilin Rosario
Jonathan Lucroy
Austin Romine
Tommy Joseph
Robert Stock
Josh Donaldson
Angel Salome
Bryan Anderson
Kyle Skipworth (lets hope he doesnt become a bust)
Luke Bailey

Catcher has some great prospects in this group.

I was expecting/hoping to have Salmoe as my backup in the Majors this year and I know Lucroy is a very solid player, but I am surprised to see him being ranked higher on the list.

Kudos for the work you guys put in. It's appreciated. Quick noob question: Are all the minor league affiliates included, and are the real stadiums? I'm specifically interested in two stadiums; The Mississippi Braves stadium in Jackson, MS and the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers stadium in Appleton, WI.

Sorry, just didn't want to start a thread to ask that and I figured you guys would definitely have an answer.

Dang someone else actually likes Fox Cities Stadium in Appleton? lol It's too bad the Rattlers are a low single A team I would love to see them in the game. I made the team in MVP and it was a blast to see them in a game lol.


I am very, very happy to see you and Ridin working together this year. I used Ridins last year only because I couldn't wait and I am one of those that don't mind the additional edits even though it's totally awesome that someone would go through the trouble of researching all the players to put them in. It's going to be great seeing this come to play. The best part of it all is having the extra 15 in single A because I didn't agree with some of the border players you and Ridin had chosen, but having this will certainly give everyone the opportunity to have the guys they liked better in the system to choose from!!! Not that anyone made the wrong decision, but rather just based on personal preference and everything can't be perfect for everyone.

I wish I knew more about players outside of the Brewers because I love attention to detail and would love to help out, but I am not nearly as knowledgeable as a lot of people on here and couldn't contribute in a way that this project demands.

Thanks a lot for doing this for everyone year in and year out!

[econoodle]

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are the fake minor leaguers at least based on the real guys?
meaning does the fake yankees AAA catcher have his tendencies, abilities, skin color, height and so on and so forth?

[acanipe12]

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are the fake minor leaguers at least based on the real guys?
meaning does the fake yankees AAA catcher have his tendencies, abilities, skin color, height and so on and so forth?

No sadly. Real Yankees catcher could be a 6'3 220 white 22 year old power hitter with no upside, where on the game it'd be a 6'1 240 hispanic 24 year old contact hitter with huge potential.

In other words, no relation what so ever.

[econoodle]

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No sadly. Real Yankees catcher could be a 6'3 220 white 22 year old power hitter with no upside, where on the game it'd be a 6'1 240 hispanic 24 year old contact hitter with huge potential.

In other words, no relation what so ever.

acinipe, i thank you for the response.
that bites
but i guess thats why what Knight does is so amazing.

[kdude_62888]

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I have a couple questions. First are they adding the low A minor league level? And this year are u able to edit guys Potential? Last year Matt Tuiasosopo was a D Potential and he should be atleast a B or C. But he would be one of the guys included in the game so i dont know if you would be able to edit that. Let me know thanks.

[Knight165]

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I have a couple questions. First are they adding the low A minor league level? And this year are u able to edit guys Potential? Last year Matt Tuiasosopo was a D Potential and he should be atleast a B or C. But he would be one of the guys included in the game so i dont know if you would be able to edit that. Let me know thanks.

There is a 15 player Single A this year. Not playable...just a holding level for more players...a good place to store some extra guys for injuries in the other levels. They accumulate stats...but there are no restrictions on what type of players you put there.

You cannot edit potential...but this year, potential is not locked. So if you train a player properly and he performs well meeting certain criteria.....his potential could jump either 1(a certain % chance) or 2(a less % chance) levels from D to C or even B. Be aware.....if a player doesn't train properly and performs poorly it is also possible for a player to drop 1 or 2 levels. Your scout will let you know when a player is doing or not doing well(a hint to maybe change his training)....and when there is a potential change(it's not specific...but you'll notice the wording in the e-mail and it's time to check)

Hope this helps.

M.K.
Knight165

[RidinDwnKingsley]

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Very excited to be teaming up with Knight this year..hopefully I score a copy Tommorow or Saturday so we can get rolling on these!

[Double Deuce]

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Hey Knight and all,

Just a few thoughts about the rosters... has there ever been any thought on basing the player ratings on any of the 2010 projected stats from any of the top sites? Fangraphs has all the top ones listed (Bill James, CHONE, Zips, etc)... and I've always thought that it'd make more sense to base ratings on these, than on Sony's "last 3 years" system. Why base ratings on past performances,when you can base them on (predicted) performances for the time period the game is actually representing?

Also, I've been working on a system for turning stats into ratings, that I think with some testing could work pretty well. Once it's more complete I may send it out.

Anyway, you can count on me for feedback on your Giants edits when they come around, but I'd be interested to hear everyone's thoughts on using a 2010 projections system like the ones mentioned above to base ratings on, rather than the current method.

Thanks,
-DD

[fatjoejr2001]

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Will anybody be implementing Bahnzo's roster tool 2010 for this particular roster? That system does work pretty well and it would be interesting to try it out like what they did for 09 season end roster. Let me know because this project looks like it will be one for the ages out of all sports games. I mean now Ridin is part of the team and with so much help the roster will be that much more detailed. Thanks ya'll

[brettryantalley]

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Will anybody be implementing Bahnzo's roster tool 2010 for this particular roster? That system does work pretty well and it would be interesting to try it out like what they did for 09 season end roster. Let me know because this project looks like it will be one for the ages out of all sports games. I mean now Ridin is part of the team and with so much help the roster will be that much more detailed. Thanks ya'll

i wondered myself if knight and co were going to be using that for making their rosters. makes sense, but i'm not really sure how it works.

[JaSnake16]

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Will anybody be implementing Bahnzo's roster tool 2010 for this particular roster? That system does work pretty well and it would be interesting to try it out like what they did for 09 season end roster. Let me know because this project looks like it will be one for the ages out of all sports games. I mean now Ridin is part of the team and with so much help the roster will be that much more detailed. Thanks ya'll

I still have the spreadsheet for the 3 year average based on Bahnzo's database covering 07-08-09 that I used in the re-rated EOS set. I just wanna see how the game engine plays (ratings-wise) if any different from last year and how the players are SCEA rated this year to see if it would make sense. Id be happy to do a possible re-rated set if 1.) if there are some out there that would be interested in it this year that liked that '09 version and 2.) Knight, Ridin et al. give their blessing for me to release a version of that based on their work which I wouldnt do without a go ahead.