All-Timers Teams

[Joey]

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I agree that Yaz was a good player, but he hit 69 fewer homeruns and his career AVG was 59 points lower than Ted's. Ted should definitely be rated higher.

Like the rosters, going to have a game soon, one comment I would have though is I think Carl Yastrzemski is under rated compared to some of the others in the other line ups, I think he needs to be as high as Ted Williams. He was an 18 time all star, HOF and triple crown winner.

Apart from that nice rosters I look forward to the NL rosters, good work.

[hightower23]

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Joey I would agree Ted Williams was better but there are some players who are not as good as either rated similar to Williams. Yaz should be higher though.

Not many players compare to Teddy

[MysterioMan007]

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While I agree that Yaz is probably underrated on the roster, I don't think he'll rank as high as Ted Williams, arguably one of the best hitters of all-time.

This stems from the way I was doing ratings early in the roster as compared to later. I probably used Yaz's career stats at that time when I did the Sox. His later less productive years probably drove his rating down a bit. Later rosters (like the Rangers, for example) were mostly done with weighted ratings. I will correct this when I do a final edit in the earlier rosters.

Anyway, the Braves are done (except for a few attributes on the relief pitchers. The Tools are not giving me pitcher attributes right now)

SP Warren Spahn
SP Greg Maddux
SP Phil Niekro
SP Tom Glavine
SP John Smoltz
RP Kid Nichols
RP Lew Burdette
RP Johnny Sain
RP Rick Camp
CP Gene Garber

C Javy Lopez
C Joe Torre
1B Fred McGriff
1B Joe Adcock
2B Marcus Giles
SS Rafael Furcal
SS Rabbit Maranville
3B Eddie Mathews
3B Chipper Jones
OF Hugh Duffy
OF Dale Murphy
OF Andruw Jones
OF Wally Berger
OF Hank Aaron
OF Dave Justice

The Florida Marlins are next and probably won't take too long considering a lot of guys are still in the game...

[hightower23]

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I must correct, I did not mean Yaz's attributes be the same as Williams just up, I was going by the red bar I meant that should be up, apologies for the confusion.

That is a sick pitching staff the Braves have there. I am looking forward to the NL getting completed and being able to play with some of my fave players such as Piazza, Bagwell and others.

Your doing a great job.

[MysterioMan007]

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That's cool. Just to see the difference, I went in and edited Yaz with weighted ratings from his '67 MVP season and it makes a HUGE difference. I realized this was the problem at some point in the process, which is why I changed the way I was doing it halfway through...

Thanks for the feedback. It makes it easier having things pointed out like this and knowing what I need to fix.

[MysterioMan007]

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The Florida Marlins are done...mostly just players edited with attributes, but some not in the game.

SP Josh Beckett
SP Livan Hernandez
SP A. J. Burnett
SP Josh Johnson
SP Ryan Dempster
RP Dontrelle Willis
RP Carl Pavano
RP Brad Penny
RP Braden Looper
CP Alfonso Alfonseca

C Charles Johnson
C Mike Redmond
1B Derrek Lee
1B Kevin Millar
2B Luis Castillo
2B Dan Uggla
SS Hanley Ramirez
SS Edgar Renteria
3B Miguel Cabrera
3B Mike Lowell
OF Juan Pierre
OF Jeff Conine
OF Cliff Floyd
OF Preston Wilson
OF Gary Sheffield

That's it for today. I was going to dive into the Nationals/Expos, but with the All-Star Game coming on and Roster Tools not working for the pitchers, I'm ready to call it a day. The Washington Nationals will be started tomorrow.

[HGH_whocares]

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Mysterio looking forward to these rosters thanks for all your hard work!

2 things though I think Fred McGriff should be a Padre he and Sheffield went head to head for the Triple Crown there, so personally I would say his best years where there. Second I think Dempster is better for the Cubs rotation you can replace him with Kevin Brown.

[arsenal123gunners]

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I think you should do the giants next

[MysterioMan007]

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With Dempster, I just feel that the Cubs have such a long and storied history (over 100 years) with enough pitchers to fill out a roster and then some, while the Marlins aren't even 20 years old yet and don't have a whole lot of names to choose from. I'm going to leave Dempster on the Marlins, but if you want to move him to the Cubs, that's your option.

Fred McGriff could have gone on a number of teams, whether it be the Padres, Braves, Rays, Blue Jays, etc. I chose the Braves. I'm making the 40 man rosters later on with 15 extra guys on each team so that people can move around whoever they want wherever they want. This roster is just the way I want to play it. I plan on doing a season with total roster control once I'm done. But, personally, I like McGriff on the Braves. He played there longer and won a World Series there.

It looks like The Giants are down near the bottom of the list. I'm just working my way down the team list on the edit screen (which is they it's listed on the original post). It helps me "keep my place" rather than skipping around to all these different teams and not knowing what I've done already. But, it'll all get released at the same time.

I'm a little stalled on this right now with not being able to do pitchers, but I feel like I'm over the hump and plan to work as fast as I possibly can over the next few weeks in between work and life itself. Glad you guys are interested, though. It helps me keep me going.

[HGH_whocares]

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I 2nd that! I know its not in order but thats the one I've been waiting for here's an idea of what the roster should look like:

SP Christy Mathewson
SP Tim Lincecum
SP Juan Marichal
SP Jason Schmidt
SP Carl Hubbell
RP Hoyt Wilhelm
RP Gaylord Perry
RP Matt Cain
RP Rod Beck
CP Rob Nen

C Bengie Molina
C Benito Santiago (Could also be on SD)
1B Willie McCovey
1B Will Clark
2B Jeff Kent
2B Robby Thompson
SS Jose Uribe
SS Rich Aurilla
3B Matt Williams
3B Pablo Sandoval
OF Willie Mays
OF Barry Bonds
OF Mel Ott
OF Bobby Bonds
OF Orlando Cepda

Other players that should be on the roster:

Bill Mueller - 3rd (best years with BOS)
Bill Swift - SP
Russ Ortiz - SP
John Burkett - SP
Kevin Mitchell - OF
JT Snow- 1st
Monte Irvin - 1st & OF
Frankie Frisch (Could also be on STL) - 2nd & 3rd
High Pockets Kelly - 1st, 2nd, OF
Buster Posey - C
Chili Davis - OF

[MysterioMan007]

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That entire outfield and most of the infield are currently scheduled to be on that team. The picthing staff is pretty close as well. I won't know for sure until I get to them and look over some stats to compare.

I'm struggling with all of the good 1B they've had. I hadn't thought about moving Cepeda to the OF. Might be something to consider since I also have Johnny Mize as well as McCovey. I was a big Will Clark fan, but haven't found a way to get him on the team yet. He just didn't have the stats as the other guys. He'll definitely be on the 40-man roster, however, if I can't figure out something.

I like Posey so far and one thing I am doing is putting future stars on the teams if I feel like they will be big in the future. Posey, as well as Strasburg, are worth considering because they seem like "can't miss" prospects, but I haven't decided whether or not players like this who haven't played a full season belong on the main roster. Opinions?

[arsenal123gunners]

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I like the idea of having future big-time names on the roster, as long as they don't take up roster spots of other deserving players

[HGH_whocares]

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I think Mize should go in as a Cardinal he was drafted by them had some of his best years there and chose STL as his team for the HOF.

I like the idea of bringing in the prospects that are projected to make an impact for their team within the next few seasons. Bryce Harper is on the cusp.

[MysterioMan007]

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Good idea on Mize. The Cards have Albert as their only 1B, so that could open up a spot for Clark on the Giants.

So I'm stuck on the Nationals, half out of laziness, half out of disinterest. One of my least favorite teams to do so far...finding a 1B who wasn't Andres Galarraga (Rockies) was like pulling teeth, so I just went with Adam Dunn, their current 1B. I know he was with the Reds a long time, but they're pretty stacked without him...and the pickings are slim for this franchise.

Not quite done just yet, but I managed to put together the final roster:

SP Steve Rogers
SP Bryn Smith
SP Dennis Martinez
SP Javier Vazquez
SP Bill Gullickson
RP Stephen Strasburg
RP Ugueth Urbina
RP Mel Rojas
RP Tim Burke
RP Ken Hill
CP Jeff Reardon

C Gary Carter
C Darrin Fletcher
1B Rusty Staub
1B Adam Dunn
2B Jose Vidro
2B Delino DeShields
SS Orlando Cabrera
3B Ryan Zimmerman
3B Tim Wallach
OF Andre Dawson
OF Tim Raines
OF Vladimir Guerrero
OF Marquis Grissom
OF Ellis Valentine

[jorge380]

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How about 1B Frank Howard from the old Washington Senators.