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  • sluggbugg
    Pro
    • Aug 2003
    • 509

    #196
    Re: Fictional Rosters

    Diamondbacks are done. Starting on Rockies.
    Last edited by sluggbugg; 04-23-2011, 06:01 PM.

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    • raleigh mcclure
      Rookie
      • Mar 2011
      • 134

      #197
      Re: Fictional Rosters

      Sluggbugg,

      Glad to hear it.

      OK, I have a newly edited Pitchers Spreadsheet. I spent quite a bit of time the last couple of nights compiling a spreadsheet of MLBPA pitchers divided into several pitching roles--top of the rotation starters, number 2 starters, #3 starters, #4 starters, #5 starters, prospects, middle relievers, low-end relievers, set-up pitchers, and closers. I wanted to check our spreadsheet since some things seemed a bit high.

      I think TT did a great job with the spreadsheets. The pitchers that I made the most changes to were the numbers 1 and 2 starters. The closer I got toward average, I noticed that TT's pitchers lined up incredibly well with MLB counterparts. The farther from average, the more I found discrepancies. So, the new edits take into account what I found. It would take a lot of time to describe everything I did, but I do want to say that I didn't take away all-stars or anything. There are still several "aces" that have ratings similar or better than Lincecum and Halladay. I just tried to pull pitchers closer toward their MLB counterparts. I think the new spreadsheet is pretty good.

      The biggest changes were to the pitchers' hitting ratings. I found that most MLB pitchers, even in the NL, had contact ratings no higher than 10. The old spreadsheet had much too high hitter ratings. For the starters I spent quite a bit of time adjusting those ratings. I didn't get rid of all of the pitchers that can hit. I left a number of pitchers in the 20's and 30's as far as contact, visibility, and discipline go.

      There are just too many pitchers on the list so I couldn't spend that much time on all of the relievers, especially since most of them will never bat in a game. Even in the NL, set-up pitchers and closers just aren't left in the lineup to bat. So I ended up cutting and pasting blocks of ratings that I had already adjusted. There will be some repetition, but hopefully nothing crazy. If you see anything weird as you edit, you can always bump things down or up a handful of points.

      Now, I was just going to hang on to the new spreadsheet and make the changes myself at the end, but there are just too many changes. Sooo... if you wouldn't mind going back into the pitchers that you've already edited, it would save me a ton of time if you'd make the tweaks as you find them on the new spreadsheet. It shouldn't take you too long, since I didn't edit any of the pitches or pitch ratings. I only changed the primary pitcher ratings--stamina, h/9, etc.--and the hitting/fielding ratings.

      I hope it's not too much to ask. I think this newest version of the spreadsheet is the best version yet and will save time polishing later.

      Thanks everyone! Keep up the good work!

      I posted the link for the new spreadsheet on the first post of the thread, but here it is below:

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      • sluggbugg
        Pro
        • Aug 2003
        • 509

        #198
        Re: Fictional Rosters

        Ok, I had to watch tv with the wife for a while. At least she wanted to watch MMA. God I love that woman! Anyway back to work. lol

        Got the new spreadsheet RM and am happy to go back and make adjustments. I noticed that some of the pitchers were better hitters than some of the fielders. lol I was gonna ask if you wanted us to make adjustments on that, but you were already working on it. lol

        One thing that jumps out at me, and maybe the whole game is just set up that way, but everybody throws 96-97 mph. Its gonna be tough hitting some of these guys with 97mph cheese and 73 mph change ups. lol

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        • raleigh mcclure
          Rookie
          • Mar 2011
          • 134

          #199
          Re: Fictional Rosters

          Originally posted by sluggbugg
          Ok, I had to watch tv with the wife for a while. At least she wanted to watch MMA. God I love that woman! Anyway back to work. lol

          Got the new spreadsheet RM and am happy to go back and make adjustments. I noticed that some of the pitchers were better hitters than some of the fielders. lol I was gonna ask if you wanted us to make adjustments on that, but you were already working on it. lol

          One thing that jumps out at me, and maybe the whole game is just set up that way, but everybody throws 96-97 mph. Its gonna be tough hitting some of these guys with 97mph cheese and 73 mph change ups. lol
          Sluggbugg,

          Thanks for mentioning that. I asked TT about the pitch velocities and I can't remember if he responded, but my assumption is that the first number for each of the pitches refers to MPH and not to the rating number.

          You're right that if we rated the pitches as they're listed, the velocities would be a little hard to believe, but if you look at them as MPH numbers they make a lot more sense.

          I looked over some of the hitter ratings for the pitchers and, because of how I cut and pasted blocks of ratings, you'll probably notice some repeats. The hitting ratings for the pitchers aren't too significant. Most important is just to have them a little closer to the MLB numbers. So just vary up some ratings here and there as you go.

          RM
          Last edited by raleigh mcclure; 04-24-2011, 12:00 AM.

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          • sluggbugg
            Pro
            • Aug 2003
            • 509

            #200
            Re: Fictional Rosters

            Rockies are completely done.

            Made the changes to the other teams' pitcher velocity ratings as well. I like seeing the bulk of the guys throwing in the 87-89 range instead of the 95-97 range. There is still a couple fireballers though, just like it should be.

            Have you talked to any of the other guys besides GoCubsGo and Mr.Random? Are they making progress?

            I have got to go to bed. Starting to see double. lol Will start on the Dodgers tomorrow.
            Last edited by sluggbugg; 04-24-2011, 03:12 AM.

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            • sluggbugg
              Pro
              • Aug 2003
              • 509

              #201
              Re: Fictional Rosters

              Ive made a little progress today. Dodgers' hitters/fielders done.

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              • sluggbugg
                Pro
                • Aug 2003
                • 509

                #202
                Re: Fictional Rosters

                I feel like I'm talking to myself. lol Dodgers are completely done. Mr. Random is doing the Giants and maybe bodizzy too. lol Tell me what you need me to do next. If you want me to send you the file through sendspace or one of those I can, since who knows how long PSN is gonna be down.

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                • raleigh mcclure
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 134

                  #203
                  Re: Fictional Rosters

                  Originally posted by sluggbugg
                  I feel like I'm talking to myself. lol Dodgers are completely done. Mr. Random is doing the Giants and maybe bodizzy too. lol Tell me what you need me to do next. If you want me to send you the file through sendspace or one of those I can, since who knows how long PSN is gonna be down.
                  Sluggbugg,

                  Sorry I haven't responded.

                  I haven't heard from Turpintine and in his "Arena" it says he hasn't posted anything since early this month. So I'm not sure about that.

                  TripleThreat is really busy this time of year and had to remove his name from the NL East. So, any of those teams are open if you want to keep editing teams.

                  I left Bodizzy's name on the Giants, even though I think it will just be Mr. Random's now. I just didn't want to remove Bodizzy without a trace without having heard from him first.

                  The due date for my daughter was yesterday, so the baby is coming any day now. I have two papers due for the end of the current semester in a couple of weeks and am going to be busy with that. I might have a bit more time near the middle or late May, but then I have to finish and defend my MA thesis by late June.

                  I hate to pull back from the project I started, but I'm having a hard time finding time to edit players. I might try to find some time in the mornings next week, but that will depend on the baby.

                  Thanks Sluggbugg, and let me know if you want any of the NL East teams.

                  RM

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                  • sluggbugg
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 509

                    #204
                    Re: Fictional Rosters

                    Way to start something that you can't finish! lol just kidding. Its a video game and life has to come first, especially when we are talking about a newborn coming anyday.

                    Ive got loads of free time (no job, remember lol) and my wife is going out of town on thursday and will be gone all weekend. Only thing that sucks is I have to cook for myself which can be dangerous. With your life being hectic and TripleThreats life busy, if you want, I'm willing to take on compiling the rosters duties as well. I don't want to steal your project by any means, but I want to help all I can.

                    As far as the National League East goes, since I'm done with the West I'll start on the Braves (my favorite team anyway) and maybe Random or GoCubsGo will pick up a team. Will get it done one way or another.

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                    • raleigh mcclure
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 134

                      #205
                      Re: Fictional Rosters

                      Originally posted by sluggbugg
                      Way to start something that you can't finish! lol just kidding. Its a video game and life has to come first, especially when we are talking about a newborn coming anyday.

                      Ive got loads of free time (no job, remember lol) and my wife is going out of town on thursday and will be gone all weekend. Only thing that sucks is I have to cook for myself which can be dangerous. With your life being hectic and TripleThreats life busy, if you want, I'm willing to take on compiling the rosters duties as well. I don't want to steal your project by any means, but I want to help all I can.

                      As far as the National League East goes, since I'm done with the West I'll start on the Braves (my favorite team anyway) and maybe Random or GoCubsGo will pick up a team. Will get it done one way or another.
                      Sluggbugg,

                      I really appreciate your picking up the slack on this.

                      I've made notes on some of the changes I wanted to make at the end and my thoughts on how to do some of that. I've also made a number of spreadsheets for references on potential grade distributions and other things that may be of some use to you. When the time comes, I'll PM you some of that information so that I don't clutter up the thread with that now. I can more easily find time to maintain communication via OS than I can find time to get on the PS3. So, it will be easy to keep an ongoing dialogue about how to finish things up.

                      You're doing me a huge favor! I can't pay you, but you can have my Kudos!

                      RM

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                      • sluggbugg
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 509

                        #206
                        Re: Fictional Rosters

                        Happy to help out on this cool project. Together we can rule the world....I mean finish this project.

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                        • Knight165
                          *ll St*r
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #207
                          Re: Fictional Rosters

                          I'm still watching you guys get this done.
                          Trust me...guys are going to love this when completed.

                          M.K.
                          Knight165
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                          • sluggbugg
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 509

                            #208
                            Re: Fictional Rosters

                            Watching aint helping buddy! Just kidding, i know you've been helping RM behind the scenes.

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                            • MR.RANDOM
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 384

                              #209
                              Re: Fictional Rosters

                              ive been jammed with work i may get some work in tonight but i go back to work at 6am tommoro so ill likely finish the west and SF tommoro and check back for what else needs to be done...

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                              • sluggbugg
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 509

                                #210
                                Re: Fictional Rosters

                                Braves Hitters done.

                                We're getting there fellas.

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