2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

[seanjeezy]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

Do you have the meebo chat bar?

When you get online next time hit me up on there. I wanna run a couple sims real side by side with you to see how these potentials are working.

I've been studying for finals and my last one is Wednesday

I'll have a week and a half off so I'll definitely be able to help run some tests starting Wednesday night

[TheRunAndShoot]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

I've been studying for finals and my last one is Wednesday

I'll have a week and a half off so I'll definitely be able to help run some tests starting Wednesday night

I feel ya, finished school last Thursday.

I ran a few sims. I'm gonna lower a bunch of ratings, Walker kept getting called up in Sept and held his own. I had to remake Paxton, he kept decreasing to a C pot, as did Franklin. Pryor went to an A in one sim, stayed a B in the others.

I'm gonna have to remake Cat as well. Him, Seager, and Martinez all ended up being almost exactly the same.

[marbury]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

Yeah I did Smoak last year

SCEA's Smoak is pretty lame. I'll probably end up creating him again this year, & if anyone's interested I'll vault him.

wow your Smoak looks perfect please do it again

[Bat]

Montero's is perfect. Makes sense they put actual time and effort into a former Yankee. Bet they weren't too happy they spent so much time on him after he landed in Seattle. What a waste.. lol

Have to admit Ackley is pretty good. Shoulda had a beard but thats nitpicking.

I really wish they would of gave him a beard. Also a two handed finish to his swing.

[seanjeezy]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

I feel ya, finished school last Thursday.

I ran a few sims. I'm gonna lower a bunch of ratings, Walker kept getting called up in Sept and held his own. I had to remake Paxton, he kept decreasing to a C pot, as did Franklin. Pryor went to an A in one sim, stayed a B in the others.

I'm gonna have to remake Cat as well. Him, Seager, and Martinez all ended up being almost exactly the same.

Wow I've never seen a decrease in potential in the Show before, what were Paxton's stats?

In franchise mode does the player card still have the blurbs about the player's current skillset and potential? I'm not sure which blurb corresponds to + or -, but check this list of descriptions out:

Edit:

Wow so they don't even list the descriptions in franchise anymore? How are we supposed to tell a B+ from a B- now?

[TheRunAndShoot]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

Wow I've never seen a decrease in potential in the Show before, what were Paxton's stats?

In franchise mode does the player card still have the blurbs about the player's current skillset and potential? I'm not sure which blurb corresponds to + or -, but check this list of descriptions out:

Edit:

Wow so they don't even list the descriptions in franchise anymore? How are we supposed to tell a B+ from a B- now?

There's a pot. bar when you go to renew contracts of players. It's not perfect, b/c it seems like players potentials are a bit more fluid this yr. It's not like D's go to A's but it seems like a handful of guys go up or down a level.

His stats weren't horrible one yr his ERA was in the 3.4s another in the 4s. but it was AA so that might be why.

I remade him and gave him an actual face, looks ok but needs a little work.

[DaronAndrew]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

wow your Smoak looks perfect please do it again

You got it, i'll let you know when he's up.

[seanjeezy]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

There's a pot. bar when you go to renew contracts of players. It's not perfect, b/c it seems like players potentials are a bit more fluid this yr. It's not like D's go to A's but it seems like a handful of guys go up or down a level.

His stats weren't horrible one yr his ERA was in the 3.4s another in the 4s. but it was AA so that might be why.

I remade him and gave him an actual face, looks ok but needs a little work.

Dammnit I was about to post my first set of sim stats and my browser crashed

Anyway, I ran a full auto, no trade franchise, and I had a ton of guys progressing 4 points in every category during the offseason. The ones that I can remember not progressing as much:
Catricala - mix of +2/+3 - hit .287 with 9 HR in 324 MLB AB's
Capps - +1 stamina +2 control
Erasmo - +1 stamina and control
Taijuan Walker +2 /9, +3 stamina - stock is rising
Paxton - +1 stamina
Pimentel - mix of +2/+3
Phillips Castillo - mix of +1/+2
Cohoes - mix of +2/+3
Victor Sanchez - mix of +2/+3
Stephen Pryor - mix of +2/+3 - stock is rising

Here's the guys who had massive improvements (+3/+4/+5)
Hultzen - +4
Maurer - +3
Hicks - mix of +3/+4
Marder - mix of +3/+4
Marlette - mix of +3/+4
Littlewood - +4, +5 blocking
Romero - +4
Martin Peguero - +4
F-Mart - mix of +3/+4
Brad Miller - mix of +4/+5
Franklin - +4
Noriega - mix of +4/+5

Major Leaguers
Wilhelmsen - massive nerf in every stat
Ruffin - mix of +1/+2
Montero - mix of +2/+3, +5 in blocking
Jaso - +5 in everything
Adam Moore - +5
Smoak - +5
Ackley - +4
Seager - +4
Liddi - +5
Wells - mix of +1/+2
Carp - mix of +3/+4
Trayvon - mix of +4/+5
Carlos Peguero - mix of +3/+4
Mike Wilson - +5
Saunders - +5
Ichiro - mix of -5/-4
Felix - mix of -2/-3

Mariners finished 82-80, third place behind Texas(1st) and LA

[seanjeezy]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

Year #2

stock is rising - mauricio robles
stock is rising - cavan cohoes
over acheiving - carlos peguero
stock is rising - diego sierra(scea) - became an A

Pineda won the cy young, 22-4, 3.26 ERA, 255 K, 3.245 FIP

Tigers defeat the Reds in the WS

Retirements:

Shawn Camp
Kevin Millwood
George Sherrill

marginal upgrades:

taijuan walker - mix of +2/+3
victor sanchez - mix of +2/+3
jordan shipers - +2
stephen pryor +2 BB/9, clutch, +4 control
Hicks - mix of +2/+3
Marder - mix of +2/+3
Proscia - mix of +2/+3
Triunfel - mix of +2/+3
Cohoes - mix of +2/+3/+4
Pimentel - mix of +2/+3
Castillo - mix of +1/+2
Chiang - mix of +1/+2

substantial upgrades:

Hultzen - mix of +3/+4
Maurer - mix of +3/+4
Marlette - mix of +3/+4
Littlewood - mix of +3/+4
Romero - +4
M. Peguero - mix of +3/+4
Catricala - mix of +3/+4
F-Mart - mix of +3/+4
Miller - mix of +2/+3/+4
Franklin - +5
Noriega - mix of +4/+5

MLB

Montero - mix of +1/+2
Jaso - +5
Smoak - +5
Ackley - mix of +2/+3
Seager - +3
Liddi - +5
Wells - mix of +3/+4
Carp - mix of +3/+4
Trayvon - mix of +2/+3
C. Peguero - +4
Saunders - +5

Paxton just does not want to progress...

[TheRunAndShoot]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

Year #2

stock is rising - mauricio robles
stock is rising - cavan cohoes
over acheiving - carlos peguero
stock is rising - diego sierra(scea) - became an A

Pineda won the cy young, 22-4, 3.26 ERA, 255 K, 3.245 FIP

Tigers defeat the Reds in the WS

Retirements:

Shawn Camp
Kevin Millwood
George Sherrill

marginal upgrades:

taijuan walker - mix of +2/+3
victor sanchez - mix of +2/+3
jordan shipers - +2
stephen pryor +2 BB/9, clutch, +4 control
Hicks - mix of +2/+3
Marder - mix of +2/+3
Proscia - mix of +2/+3
Triunfel - mix of +2/+3
Cohoes - mix of +2/+3/+4
Pimentel - mix of +2/+3
Castillo - mix of +1/+2
Chiang - mix of +1/+2

substantial upgrades:

Hultzen - mix of +3/+4
Maurer - mix of +3/+4
Marlette - mix of +3/+4
Littlewood - mix of +3/+4
Romero - +4
M. Peguero - mix of +3/+4
Catricala - mix of +3/+4
F-Mart - mix of +3/+4
Miller - mix of +2/+3/+4
Franklin - +5
Noriega - mix of +4/+5

MLB

Montero - mix of +1/+2
Jaso - +5
Smoak - +5
Ackley - mix of +2/+3
Seager - +3
Liddi - +5
Wells - mix of +3/+4
Carp - mix of +3/+4
Trayvon - mix of +2/+3
C. Peguero - +4
Saunders - +5

Paxton just does not want to progress...

We differed on a bunch, same on some. 100% agree with Paxton though. I think the base was a very low b.

Got a better base for him now but haven't run a sim. I'll post the file when I get home tonight.

[brett the jet favre]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

Why is Felix decreasing when he is only 26 when the season starts???

[seanjeezy]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

We differed on a bunch, same on some. 100% agree with Paxton though. I think the base was a very low b.

Got a better base for him now but haven't run a sim. I'll post the file when I get home tonight.

So I simmed to 2019, The rotation was Hultzen, Walker, SCEA guy, Paxton, SCEA guy. Keep in mind this is all auto settings:

Ackley was traded in his age 28 season to the yankees for 1 C pot, 1 F pot, and 1 B pot during the offseason

Montero was traded to the yankees in his age 29 season during the offseason

For some reason a duplicate Taijuan Walker ended up on the yankees, had inferior stats to M's Walker

Hultzen and Walker had almost maxed out OVR bars, , but for some reason Walker always had a ERA in the 4-5 range, it took him until his age 26 season to have an ERA under 4 (3.77). His career record at that point was about 12 games under .500. Hultzen had a winning record and a career ERA of 3.5 at that point.

Be wary of the Tigers, LOL - at one point they had Verlander, Felix, Prince, Cabrera, Hamilton, and a maxed out Matusz. Every single offseason they picked up one of the top tier, if not the best, free agent. Prince Fielder won the MVP I think 3 times in 7 years

Regarding Paxton, he didn't start progressing until his age 27 season, and it was only by 1 or 2 points

Since I had trades off during the season, the positions where the M's have excess (3B, SS, LF) had a lot of logjams, guys like F-Mart and Franklin did not get a clear shot at starting until they were ~27-28, and then during the offseason, the CPU would sign players for positions not in need, ex: M's signed Markakis at age 34, forcing Wells to play center, Guti to the bench, and Pimentel to AAA. Vargas and Noesi were signed as retreads in 2018, blocking Erasmo and Victor Sanchez

The C pot guys like Castillo, Littlewood, etc. were still stuck in AA by 2019, barely progressed at all

Is anyone aware of which sliders affect sim games? Once I bumped up starter stamina 1 click, it seemed like my starters were giving up less runs, the CPU was probably leaving them in too long, and then the bullpen comes in and gives up runs

Last thing - Strikeout totals were way too low in minor league games, the first season Taijuan Walker had a K/BB ratio of ~77/55 or something like that, which is god awful. By 2019, Walker had a K/9 rating of 81, not high enough IMO, I feel like he can be a 230 K guy in his prime, he was hovering around 190 most of his career

[TheRunAndShoot]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

Ks are kinda like HRs in the minors, actually I think most of the counting statistics are wacky through the minors. I wouldn't worry too much about it

[jeshuabuchanan]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

Why is Felix decreasing when he is only 26 when the season starts???

I had the same exact thing happen. He decreases 1 or 2 points in every category. He won the cy young at 23-3 with a 2.73 era....dont get it AT all!!!

JB

[TheRunAndShoot]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

I had the same exact thing happen. He decreases 1 or 2 points in every category. He won the cy young at 23-3 with a 2.73 era....dont get it AT all!!!

JB

He is on the low end of the A range which is probably incorrect. I think it might just be him regressing to the low A potential.