OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

[Scooter3]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

My Teams:

BLACK = PLAYERS

RED = NEW PLAYERS

BLUE = UPDATED PLAYERS

ORIOLES:

Charlie Maxwell.....Eddie Murray.....Frank Robinson.....
George Sisler.....Boog Powell.....Johnny Temple.....Brooks Robinson.....
Rick Ferrell.....Cal Ripken.....

RED SOX:

Oil Can Boyd.....Roger Clemens.....Dom DiMaggio.....Carlton Fisk.....
Jimmy Foxx.....Lefty Grove.....Dutch Leonard.....Mel Parnell.....
Red Ruffing.....Babe Ruth.....Curt Schilling.....Mickey Vernon.....
Ted Williams.....Smokey Joe Wood.....Dizzy Trout.....Bobby Doerr.....
Jackie Jensen.....Jimmy Piersall.....Carl Yastrzemski.....George Kell.....
Wade Boggs.....Joe Cronin.....Johnny Pesky.....

YANKEES:

Joe DiMaggio.....Whitey Ford.....Lou Gehrig.....Lefty Gomez.....
Tommy John.....Don Larsen.....Mickey Mantle.....Roger Maris.....Pedro Ramos.....Bob Turley.....Bobby Richardson.....Yogi Berra.....
Billy Martin.....
Phil Rizzuto.....Gil McDougald.....Bill Dickey.....Babe Ruth.....Bill Skowron...
Clete Boyer.....Hank Bauer.....

WHITE SOX:

Harry Hooper.....Joe Jackson.....Billy Pierce.....Dixie Walker.....Eddie Robinson.....Luke Appling.....Norm Cash.....Ken Berry.....Luis Aparicio.....
Sammy Esposito.....

INDIANS:

Albert Belle.....Larry Doby.....Bob Feller.....Bob Lemon.....Don Mossi.....
Hal Newhouser.....Bubba Phillips.....Luke Sewell.....Ralph Terry.....
Early Wynn.....Nap Lajoie.....Tris Speaker.....Al Rosen.....Boog Powell.....
Earl Averill.....Lou Boudreau.....

TIGERS:

Al Kaline.....Denny McLain.....Hank Greenberg.....Babe Herman.....
Soup Campbell.....Charlie Gehringer.....Ray Boone.....Kirk Gibson.....
Ty Cobb.....Hughie Jennings.....Pinky Higgins.....Mickey Cochrane....

ROYALS:

George Brett.....Bo Jackson.....

TWINS:

Ted Abernathy.....Doc Ayers.....Goose Goslin.....Rod Carew
Walter Johnson.....Harmon Killebrew.....Kirby Puckett.....
Eddie Yost.....Sam Rice.....Rocky Bridges.....

ATHLETICS:

Jose Canseco.....Reggie Jackson.....Bobo Newsom.....Mark McGwire.....
Dick Howser.....Rickey Henderson.....

MARINERS:

Randy Johnson.....

BRAVES:

Hank Aaron.....Johnny Antonelli.....Lew Burdette.....Gene Conley.....
Rogers Hornsby.....Eddie Mathews.....Warren Spahn.....Paul Waner.....
Johnny Logan.....Ernie Lombardi.....Bobby Thomson.....Joe Adcock.....

PHILLIES:

John Boozer.....Jim Bunning.....Don Cardwell.....Ted Kazanski.....
Greg Luzinski.....Robin Roberts.....Richie Ashburn.....Mike Schmidt.....
Ethan Allen.....Wes Covington.....Johnny Evers.....

CUBS:

Mickey Owen.....Chirlie Root.....Barney Schultz.....Hack Wilson.....
Don Hoak.....Billy Herman.....Ernie Banks.....Preston Ward.....Gene Oliver...

REDS:

Red Barrett.....Johnny Bench.....Ewell Blackwell.....Mordecai Brown.....
Tom Browning.....John Denny.....Vern Kennedy.....Ted Kluszewski.....
Bob Purkey.....Eppa Rixey.....Edd Roush.....John Smiley.....Frank Robinson
Curt Flood.....Roy McMillan.....Wally Post.....Joe Morgan.....George Foster..
Don Blasingame.....Pete Rose.....

PIRATES:

Vern Law.....Preacher Roe.....Honus Wagner.....Cy Young.....Roy Face.....
Bob Skinner.....Roberto Clemente.....Ralph Kiner.....Bill Mazeroski.....
Pie Traynor.....Smoky Burgess.....Lloyd Waner.....Willie Stargell.....
Frank Thomas.....

CARDINALS:

Grover Alexander.....Lou Brock.....Steve Carlton.....Dizzy Dean.....
Paul Dean.....Ben Fowler.....Bob Gibson.....Mudcat Grant.....Willie McGee...
Johnny Mize.....Stan Musial.....Bobby Shantz.....Curt Simmons.....
Ozzie Smith.....Cy Young.....Mark McGwire.....Enos Slaughter.....
Red Schoendnst.....Bob Skinner.....Ken Boyer.....Whitey Kurowski.....
Joe Garagiola.....Pepper Martin.....Bob Uecker.....

DODGERS:

Roy Campanella.....Roger Craig.....Don Drysdale.....Carl Erskine.....
Jim Gilliam.....Sandy Koufax.....Clem Labine.....Tommy Lasorda.....
Wally Moon.....Don Newcombe.....Johnny Padres.....Pee Wee Reese.....
Jackie Robinson.....Duke Snider.....Dazzy Vance.....Maury Wills.....
Larry Sherry.....Sandy Amoros.....Ron Cey.....Billy Cox.....Joe Black.....
Don Zimmer.....Leo Durocher.....Carl Furillo.....Gil Hodges....
Frank Howard.....Kirk Gibson.....

GIANTS:

Felipe Alou.....Orlando Cepeda.....Alvin Dark.....Carl Hubbell.....
Juan Marichal.....Willie Mays.....Mel Ott.....Harvey Kuenn.....
Willie McCovey.....Robby Thompson.....Jim Davenport.....Buck Ewing.....

more to come.....
scooter.....BigKlu.....

[capa]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

Scooter,

I think Mudcat Grant should either be on the Indians or Twins. He is listed on Cards in post above. He had 67 wins for the Indians and about 50 for the Twins. His monster year was 1965 with the Twins when he won 21 games.

I think of him as a Twin, but that's because he was on the Indians when I was under 6 or 7 years old...

C

[Scooter3]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

My Teams:

BLACK = PLAYERS

RED = NEW PLAYERS

BLUE = UPDATED PLAYERS

ORIOLES:

Charlie Maxwell.....Eddie Murray.....Frank Robinson.....
George Sisler.....Boog Powell.....Johnny Temple.....Brooks Robinson.....
Rick Ferrell.....Cal Ripken.....

RED SOX:

Oil Can Boyd.....Roger Clemens.....Dom DiMaggio.....Carlton Fisk.....
Jimmy Foxx.....Lefty Grove.....Dutch Leonard.....Mel Parnell.....
Red Ruffing.....Babe Ruth.....Curt Schilling.....Mickey Vernon.....
Ted Williams.....Smokey Joe Wood.....Dizzy Trout.....Bobby Doerr.....
Jackie Jensen.....Jimmy Piersall.....Carl Yastrzemski.....George Kell.....
Wade Boggs.....Joe Cronin.....Johnny Pesky.....

YANKEES:

Joe DiMaggio.....Whitey Ford.....Lou Gehrig.....Lefty Gomez.....
Tommy John.....Don Larsen.....Mickey Mantle.....Roger Maris.....Pedro Ramos.....Bob Turley.....Bobby Richardson.....Yogi Berra.....
Billy Martin.....
Phil Rizzuto.....Gil McDougald.....Bill Dickey.....Babe Ruth.....Bill Skowron...
Clete Boyer.....Hank Bauer.....

WHITE SOX:

Harry Hooper.....Joe Jackson.....Billy Pierce.....Dixie Walker.....Eddie Robinson.....Luke Appling.....Norm Cash.....Ken Berry.....Luis Aparicio.....
Sammy Esposito.....

INDIANS:

Albert Belle.....Larry Doby.....Bob Feller.....Bob Lemon.....Don Mossi.....
Hal Newhouser.....Bubba Phillips.....Luke Sewell.....Ralph Terry.....
Early Wynn.....Nap Lajoie.....Tris Speaker.....Al Rosen.....Boog Powell.....
Earl Averill.....Lou Boudreau.....

TIGERS:

Al Kaline.....Denny McLain.....Hank Greenberg.....Babe Herman.....
Soup Campbell.....Charlie Gehringer.....Ray Boone.....Kirk Gibson.....
Ty Cobb.....Hughie Jennings.....Pinky Higgins.....Mickey Cochrane....

ROYALS:

George Brett.....Bo Jackson.....

TWINS:

Ted Abernathy.....Doc Ayers.....Goose Goslin.....Rod Carew
Walter Johnson.....Harmon Killebrew.....Kirby Puckett.....
Eddie Yost.....Sam Rice.....Rocky Bridges.....

ATHLETICS:

Jose Canseco.....Reggie Jackson.....Bobo Newsom.....Mark McGwire.....
Dick Howser.....Rickey Henderson.....

MARINERS:

Randy Johnson.....

BRAVES:

Hank Aaron.....Johnny Antonelli.....Lew Burdette.....Gene Conley.....
Rogers Hornsby.....Eddie Mathews.....Warren Spahn.....Paul Waner.....
Johnny Logan.....Ernie Lombardi.....Bobby Thomson.....Joe Adcock.....

PHILLIES:

John Boozer.....Jim Bunning.....Don Cardwell.....Ted Kazanski.....
Greg Luzinski.....Robin Roberts.....Richie Ashburn.....Mike Schmidt.....
Ethan Allen.....Wes Covington.....Johnny Evers.....

CUBS:

Mickey Owen.....Chirlie Root.....Barney Schultz.....Hack Wilson.....
Don Hoak.....Billy Herman.....Ernie Banks.....Preston Ward.....
Gene Oliver.....Hank Sauer.....

REDS:

Red Barrett.....Johnny Bench.....Ewell Blackwell.....Mordecai Brown.....
Tom Browning.....John Denny.....Vern Kennedy.....Ted Kluszewski.....
Bob Purkey.....Eppa Rixey.....Edd Roush.....John Smiley.....Frank Robinson
Curt Flood.....Roy McMillan.....Wally Post.....Joe Morgan.....George Foster..
Don Blasingame.....Pete Rose.....

PIRATES:

Vern Law.....Preacher Roe.....Honus Wagner.....Cy Young.....Roy Face.....
Bob Skinner.....Roberto Clemente.....Ralph Kiner.....Bill Mazeroski.....
Pie Traynor.....Smoky Burgess.....Lloyd Waner.....Willie Stargell.....
Frank Thomas.....

CARDINALS:

Grover Alexander.....Lou Brock.....Steve Carlton.....Dizzy Dean.....
Paul Dean.....Ben Fowler.....Bob Gibson.....Mudcat Grant.....Willie McGee...
Johnny Mize.....Stan Musial.....Bobby Shantz.....Curt Simmons.....
Ozzie Smith.....Cy Young.....Mark McGwire.....Enos Slaughter.....
Red Schoendnst.....Bob Skinner.....Ken Boyer.....Whitey Kurowski.....
Joe Garagiola.....Pepper Martin.....Bob Uecker.....

DODGERS:

Roy Campanella.....Roger Craig.....Don Drysdale.....Carl Erskine.....
Jim Gilliam.....Sandy Koufax.....Clem Labine.....Tommy Lasorda.....
Wally Moon.....Don Newcombe.....Johnny Padres.....Pee Wee Reese.....
Jackie Robinson.....Duke Snider.....Dazzy Vance.....Maury Wills.....
Larry Sherry.....Sandy Amoros.....Ron Cey.....Billy Cox.....Joe Black.....
Don Zimmer.....Leo Durocher.....Carl Furillo.....Gil Hodges....
Frank Howard.....Kirk Gibson.....

GIANTS:

Felipe Alou.....Orlando Cepeda.....Alvin Dark.....Carl Hubbell.....
Juan Marichal.....Willie Mays.....Mel Ott.....Harvey Kuenn.....
Willie McCovey.....Robby Thompson.....Jim Davenport.....Buck Ewing.....

more to come.....
scooter.....BigKlu.....

[Scooter3]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

Scooter,

I think Mudcat Grant should either be on the Indians or Twins. He is listed on Cards in post above. He had 67 wins for the Indians and about 50 for the Twins. His monster year was 1965 with the Twins when he won 21 games.

I think of him as a Twin, but that's because he was on the Indians when I was under 6 or 7 years old...C

capa,

I appreciate your input and it's a valid observation. It's important info and players can be sorted before release.

All I'm interested in at this moment is getting as many quality players faces out as I can.

If you don't get what you want when we release it. You can adjust to your liking later so everyone is happy.

Keep the information flowing guys.

thanks,
scooter...BigKlu...

[drsublime]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

i re-did Bonds..

he's been one of the more difficult ones for me to create

SF Version


Pitt Version

[Joey]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

I'm still here, just been terribly busy.

Wow, these attribute edits are an absolute blast to make. They are really going to set this roster apart from other classic rosters I have created in the past.

Data entry is terribly boring but this will be so worth it.

I desperately need people to pick up where Joey left of on pitch edits though! Any with the Bill James pitch book who can enter data to the spreadsheet please let me know. i have it, I just want to spend as much time as possible entering in data to the game

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

I'm still here, just been terribly busy.

Trust me, I understand completely! Sorry about that

[mizzoubasketball23]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

Whats the name of these rosters?

[Joey]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

They haven't been released yet.

Whats the name of these rosters?

[obscureguy]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

Just out of curiosity, has anybody considered replacing certain SCEA players with younger user made versions in some cases? Or are you guys just sticking with the versions that came with the game but with "prime stats"?

I only ask because there are a handful of really fantastic guys out there (a young Vlad Guerrero comes to mind) and it'd be neat to see guys like Mariano Rivera in his younger days...especially for fantasy draft purposes.

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

Just out of curiosity, has anybody considered replacing certain SCEA players with younger user made versions in some cases? Or are you guys just sticking with the versions that came with the game but with "prime stats"?

I only ask because there are a handful of really fantastic guys out there (a young Vlad Guerrero comes to mind) and it'd be neat to see guys like Mariano Rivera in his younger days...especially for fantasy draft purposes.

Nope we will just be sticking with the SCEA models in nearly all cases. Too many faces to make to do that. Youre not going to want to use these in franchise mode just season, so age is irrelevant for a season fantasy draft

[drsublime]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8wc5Wowh7LY

check it out, BK Kim vs the yankees

[Scooter3]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

Teams from BigKlu's Cave: 5/12/12 to 5/15/12




BLACK = PLAYERS

RED = NEW PLAYERS

BLUE = UPDATED PLAYERS

BROWN = PAST UPDATED PLAYERS





ORIOLES:

Charlie Maxwell.....Eddie Murray.....Frank Robinson.....
George Sisler.....Boog Powell.....Johnny Temple.....Brooks Robinson.....
Rick Ferrell.....Cal Ripken.....


RED SOX:

Oil Can Boyd.....Roger Clemens.....Dom DiMaggio.....Carlton Fisk.....
Jimmy Foxx.....Lefty Grove.....Dutch Leonard.....Mel Parnell.....
Red Ruffing.....Babe Ruth.....Curt Schilling.....Mickey Vernon.....
Ted Williams.....Smokey Joe Wood.....Dizzy Trout.....Bobby Doerr.....
Jackie Jensen.....Jimmy Piersall.....Carl Yastrzemski.....George Kell.....
Wade Boggs.....Joe Cronin.....Johnny Pesky.....


YANKEES:

Joe DiMaggio.....Whitey Ford.....Lou Gehrig.....Lefty Gomez.....
Tommy John.....Don Larsen.....Mickey Mantle.....Roger Maris.....Pedro Ramos.....Bob Turley.....Bobby Richardson.....Yogi Berra.....
Billy Martin.....
Phil Rizzuto.....Gil McDougald.....Bill Dickey.....Babe Ruth.....Bill Skowron...
Clete Boyer.....Hank Bauer.....


WHITE SOX:

Harry Hooper.....Joe Jackson.....Billy Pierce.....Dixie Walker.....Eddie Robinson.....Luke Appling.....Norm Cash.....Ken Berry.....Luis Aparicio.....
Sammy Esposito.....


INDIANS:

Albert Belle.....Larry Doby.....Bob Feller.....Bob Lemon.....Don Mossi.....
Hal Newhouser.....Bubba Phillips.....Luke Sewell.....Ralph Terry.....
Early Wynn.....Nap Lajoie.....Tris Speaker.....Al Rosen.....Boog Powell.....
Earl Averill.....Lou Boudreau.....


TIGERS:

Al Kaline.....Denny McLain.....Hank Greenberg.....Babe Herman.....
Soup Campbell.....Charlie Gehringer.....Ray Boone.....Kirk Gibson.....
Ty Cobb.....Hughie Jennings.....Pinky Higgins.....Mickey Cochrane....


ROYALS:

George Brett.....Bo Jackson.....


TWINS:

Ted Abernathy.....Doc Ayers.....Goose Goslin.....Rod Carew
Walter Johnson.....Harmon Killebrew.....Kirby Puckett.....
Eddie Yost.....Sam Rice.....Rocky Bridges.....Oil Can Boyd.....


ATHLETICS:

Jose Canseco.....Reggie Jackson.....Bobo Newsom.....Mark McGwire.....
Dick Howser.....Rickey Henderson.....Sal Bando.....Vida Blue....
Gene Tenace.....Dave Stewart.....Catfish Hunter.....Joe Rudi.....
Rube Waddell.....Eddie Collins.....Frank Baker.....
new updated Mark McGwire.....


MARINERS:

Randy Johnson.....


BRAVES:

Hank Aaron.....Johnny Antonelli.....Lew Burdette.....Gene Conley.....
Rogers Hornsby.....Eddie Mathews.....Warren Spahn.....Paul Waner.....
Johnny Logan.....Ernie Lombardi.....Bobby Thomson.....Joe Adcock.....
John Rocker.....


PHILLIES:

John Boozer.....Jim Bunning.....Don Cardwell.....Ted Kazanski.....
Greg Luzinski.....Robin Roberts.....Richie Ashburn.....Mike Schmidt.....
Ethan Allen.....Wes Covington.....Johnny Evers.....Dutch Ulrich.....
Grammy Hammer.....


CUBS:

Mickey Owen.....Chirlie Root.....Barney Schultz.....Hack Wilson.....
Don Hoak.....Billy Herman.....Ernie Banks.....Preston Ward.....
Gene Oliver.....Hank Sauer.....Dave Kingman.....Ron Santo.....



REDS:

Red Barrett.....Johnny Bench.....Ewell Blackwell.....Mordecai Brown.....
Tom Browning.....John Denny.....Vern Kennedy.....Ted Kluszewski.....
Bob Purkey.....Eppa Rixey.....Edd Roush.....John Smiley.....Frank Robinson
Curt Flood.....Roy McMillan.....Wally Post.....Joe Morgan.....George Foster..
Don Blasingame.....Pete Rose.....


PIRATES:

Vern Law.....Preacher Roe.....Honus Wagner.....Cy Young.....Roy Face.....
Bob Skinner.....Roberto Clemente.....Ralph Kiner.....Bill Mazeroski.....
Pie Traynor.....Smoky Burgess.....Lloyd Waner.....Willie Stargell.....
Frank Thomas.....Manny Mota.....


CARDINALS:

Grover Alexander.....Lou Brock.....Steve Carlton.....Dizzy Dean.....
Paul Dean.....Ben Fowler.....Bob Gibson.....Mudcat Grant.....Willie McGee...
Johnny Mize.....Stan Musial.....Bobby Shantz.....Curt Simmons.....
Ozzie Smith.....Cy Young.....Mark McGwire.....Enos Slaughter.....
Red Schoendnst.....Bob Skinner.....Ken Boyer.....Whitey Kurowski.....
Joe Garagiola.....Pepper Martin.....Bob Uecker....
new updated Mark McGwire.....


DODGERS:

Roy Campanella.....Roger Craig.....Don Drysdale.....Carl Erskine.....
Jim Gilliam.....Sandy Koufax.....Clem Labine.....Tommy Lasorda.....
Wally Moon.....Don Newcombe.....Johnny Padres.....Pee Wee Reese.....
Jackie Robinson.....Duke Snider.....Dazzy Vance.....Maury Wills.....
Larry Sherry.....Sandy Amoros.....Ron Cey.....Billy Cox.....Joe Black.....
Don Zimmer.....Leo Durocher.....Carl Furillo.....Gil Hodges....
Frank Howard.....Kirk Gibson.....


GIANTS:

Felipe Alou.....Orlando Cepeda.....Alvin Dark.....Carl Hubbell.....
Juan Marichal.....Willie Mays.....Mel Ott.....Harvey Kuenn.....
Willie McCovey.....Robby Thompson.....Jim Davenport.....Buck Ewing.....



more to come.....
scooter.....BigKlu.....

[derelictojama]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

BRAVES:

Hank Aaron.....Johnny Antonelli.....Lew Burdette.....Gene Conley.....
Rogers Hornsby.....Eddie Mathews.....Warren Spahn.....Paul Waner.....
Johnny Logan.....Ernie Lombardi.....Bobby Thomson.....Joe Adcock.....
John Rocker.....

I've been lurking here, and I'm really looking forward to these, don't quite know what I'll do with them -- Season is not my thing -- but I will enjoy them. Reminds me of when I played Strat-o-Matic as a kid, with Dale Murphy and Bob Horner as my Braves, then my uncle gave me HIS cards from 1966 and I mixed in so I had old players and new (didn't line up exactly, of course, because the game changed over the years, but the beauty of dice games was they really all happened in your head, so you could make stuff up as you went... but I digress...) Hmmm.... importing a 25 year old Hank Aaron into my current Braves franchise... tempting... move Heyward to LF.... NO! Must resist temptation!

But the real reason I comment here is just to say, LOL at including John Rocker... as a Braves fan, not the best of memories to bring up, but just wondering, is that because he's a fun player to have, or do his numbers really earn him a spot (I mean, aside from running his mouth, he actually was good for a couple years, right)? Not criticizing, not suggesting you change it or anything, just found it both funny and interesting and thought I'd ask. Good luck, and I look forward to the results!

[Dannyc]

Re: OS All-Time Classic Roster (The Show '12)

Nope we will just be sticking with the SCEA models in nearly all cases. Too many faces to make to do that. Youre not going to want to use these in franchise mode just season, so age is irrelevant for a season fantasy draft

Hey, I have a question kind of related this: For guys like Walter Johnson, who played on now defunct teams, where will they be placed? I suggest putting them in free agency (possibly negro league players as well and other old time players like Fred Dunlap and Dan Brouthers who played on teams who no longer exist).