Scott's OSFM ZiPS Re-rated Rosters

[dbacks_Nation]

Re: Scott's OSFM ZiPS Re-rated Rosters

Have you done any sims to see how the CAP draftees will do in a few years?

[rjackson]

Re: Scott's OSFM ZiPS Re-rated Rosters

I get what thegame is saying, I guarantee you that Scott goes to work and sleeps sometimes. Why not pass off some of the grunt work to another person during those times, especially if you have the ratings that need to be entered out in a spreadsheet somewhere? Rome wasn't built in a day but it wasn't built by one person either.

I personally got tired of waiting. I got the WPA/LP information from fangraphs and used the v1 ZiPS rosters, edited the clutch ratings and dropped all pitchers K ratings by 5 points and edited a few select players like Emaus. Then I imported players from the vault that panda and yanksdaniel did (AWESOME!) and backed up a few trade transactions to get it more opening day-like. They aren't perfectly mirrored opening day rosters but pretty damn good and I've started my frachise. I'm not waiting anymore when I knew I'd have to edit the clutch ratings for everyone anyways. It took me maybe 8 hrs to do. Now, I'm having fun. About the only thing that I don't like is that Yonder Alonso is an A potential instead of a B but I can live with it as maybe he really will surprise me in real life?

PS to Scott: I don't know what you do for a living but if you are currently or intend on becoming a leader (manager, supervisor, director, whatever), you will really have to learn to trust other people's work and delegate accordingly. It is something that I've had to learn to do myself, but when I figured out that it is the end that matters and not how you get there (people getting there a different way than I would have, for instance), things clicked.

That said, using ZiPS was a great idea and came out with some really good ratings. V1 is great and I'm happy that you released it.

PPS Special thanks here to seanjeezy keeping up his spreadsheet for pitch edits that so many people use as a base in their rosters.

[jknott10]

I really wish that people would stop complaining about the fact that Scott doesn't want help. He is doing a fabulous job and doing this for US and out of his good heart to make this happen. He is also taking his FREE TIME ( that he doesn't have to give us) to make this happen for US. This is not meant to bash anybody but it really is getting rediculous that some people are starting to talk down on Scott when he is putting in hard work on his OWN TIME to make this happen. If the man doesn't want help.... Then guess what.... He doesn't want help and leave it at that.

My $.02

Keep up the good work Scott


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[yanksdaniel99]

Re: Scott's OSFM ZiPS Re-rated Rosters

Have you done any sims to see how the CAP draftees will do in a few years?

I ran a sim using all the guys Panda has in the vault and just imported then onto Scott's V1 and they all progressed to where I wanted them to be at with a few players. Obvisiously most of the college players made the majors sooner then the high school players and overall it worked out all. Of course with the progression system, you had some busts and some surprises just like in real life so it worked out fairly realistic in that aspect as well.

Overall very satisfied ... much better then last year

[gardenfaithful24]

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rjackson Just curious why did you have to edit the cluth rating's i'm clueless with this rating's stuff can you explain sorry if it's a dumb question.

[Authentic2Real]

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I ran a sim using all the guys Panda has in the vault and just imported then onto Scott's V1 and they all progressed to where I wanted them to be at with a few players. Obvisiously most of the college players made the majors sooner then the high school players and overall it worked out all. Of course with the progression system, you had some busts and some surprises just like in real life so it worked out fairly realistic in that aspect as well.

Overall very satisfied ... much better then last year

Awesome! Thanks for taking the time!

Again, without you, Scott, Panda, and countless others, we wouldn't have these, so thank you all for your time!

[rjackson]

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rjackson Just curious why did you have to edit the cluth rating's i'm clueless with this rating's stuff can you explain sorry if it's a dumb question.

I believe that the ratings were based on the stat Runs Created and I wanted it based on WPA/LP. Runs created isn't bad but most people ended up with high clutch ratings and a few good ones like Clayton Kershaw with low ones. Clutch gives a modifier to abilities in leveraged situations (like when your controller starts doing the heartbeat rumble with a runner in scoring position). I figured that 50 should be average and most people perform at regular levels so most of the ratings are in that 45-55 range for me now, but there is a strong minority that does underperform or kick it up a notch. It isn't going to break the rosters or improve them that much, really.

[gardenfaithful24]

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Thank you for the quick and detailed response I appreciate it.

[Scott]

Due to recent criticism, I won't be posting in this thread or responding to pm's until they are complete.

[AC]

Due to recent criticism, I won't be posting in this thread or responding to pm's until they are complete.

That is probably for the best, Scott.

Does anyone really care where I sent this from?

[MJHSpanda57]

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Due to recent criticism, I won't be posting in this thread or responding to pm's until they are complete.

May I pm you when I complete the draft picks?

[rjackson]

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Due to recent criticism, I won't be posting in this thread or responding to pm's until they are complete.

I hope you realize that I intended for any criticism to be constructive and hopefully helpful to you in the long term. Just some widsom I've picked up and would gladly soak up any that people have for me. In the short term, it's your decision whether to take it constructively and how you react to it. One of those test of character moments, I suppose which I tend to fail routinely! Anyways, I just wanted to make my intentions clear.

I haven't seen anything that you have done with this update nor has anyone else as far as I know, but I am confident that they will be great. V1 definitely is great and I will definitely continue to recommend your rosters. Just look at how many people are hungry for them.

[Scott]

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May I pm you when I complete the draft picks?

Last response of the thread...Yes.

[rjackson]

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Thank you for the quick and detailed response I appreciate it.

It was a good question! And just to note, the players I edited were the few that ZiPS misprojected by a ton (like Emaus). ZiPS did okay for the most part (any .270 hitter can hit .300 one year and .240 the next--which the game does do as well) and Scott did a fabulous job of getting good ratings based on those projections! I never would have thought of the formulas tha I saw on converting ZiPS over.

[gardenfaithful24]

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It was a good question! And just to note, the players I edited were the few that ZiPS misprojected by a ton (like Emaus). ZiPS did okay for the most part (any .270 hitter can hit .300 one year and .240 the next--which the game does do as well) and Scott did a fabulous job of getting good ratings based on those projections! I never would have thought of the formulas tha I saw on converting ZiPS over.

I find this whole thing fasinating before when i'd go to edit a player it was mostly a guessing game. There's no explantion for what the number equals does a 70 rating vs RHP mean 260 AVG who knows. That's why I love the idea of the ZiPS roster.