Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

[seanjeezy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

This is what seanjeezy posted in the seattle thread.

A+ HOF
A MVP
A- Superstar
B+ All-Star
B Good
B- Solid
C+ Average regular
C Fringe regular/platoon
C- Bench player/Utility
Everything else is a career minor leaguer

B+ is a damn good player, A is reserved for players with very high ceilings. Almora is a solid player, a potential All star, but I don't see him as being a superstar type player.

Defensively he is a great OF, but he lacks the power potential to be a superstar offensively. But at CF he can be a great all star type player.

I can see Soler or Baez becoming those types of players due to their offensive potentials.

The grades overlap a little in either direction, it really depends on the individual ratings. The tried and true method to determine potential is to rate out the player's ceiling in the editor, whatever you get for overall should be their potential...

[Marcelj21]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

No love for Josh Conway and Trey Lang? Ben Wells should definitely be there. When healthy, on par with Maples, Johnson at best... Whitenack at worse depending on his recovery.

Gerardo Conception should be on as well. Struggled with a bout of mono and had a bad first year as a 19yr old changing countries but is still seen as a guy with 3/4 potential. Probably a C/C+, still super young.

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

No love for Josh Conway and Trey Lang? Ben Wells should definitely be there. When healthy, on par with Maples, Johnson at best... Whitenack at worse depending on his recovery.

Gerardo Conception should be on as well. Struggled with a bout of mono and had a bad first year as a 19yr old changing countries but is still seen as a guy with 3/4 potential. Probably a C/C+, still super young.

The thing is that we have 90 slots.

25 MLB
25 AAA
25 AA
15 A

But the AAA roster will be a close to 100% as I can get. With all the NRI the Cubs have I'm sure this will become clear once ST is further under way.

So that is 50 players right there with a lot of these players being SCEA created and perhaps older minor leaguers that we may not consider hot prospects.

AA I will try to get mostly accurate to a point and a couple of the more well known A prospects can be included in AA most likely to fill in the roster.

I would guess that on the 90 man roster there will be about 20 spots reserved for single A prospects.

If you have an argument to include a player we need to also consider removing one in his place. Even then there still might not be enough room.

Conception was on the fringe of being included and he is on my reserve pile along with Ben Wells.

[skow05]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

The thing is that we have 90 slots.

25 MLB
25 AAA
25 AA
15 A

But the AAA roster will be a close to 100% as I can get. With all the NRI the Cubs have I'm sure this will become clear once ST is further under way.

So that is 50 players right there with a lot of these players being SCEA created and perhaps older minor leaguers that we may not consider hot prospects.

AA I will try to get mostly accurate to a point and a couple of the more well known A prospects can be included in AA most likely to fill in the roster.

I would guess that on the 90 man roster there will be about 20 spots reserved for single A prospects.

If you have an argument to include a player we need to also consider removing one in his place. Even then there still might not be enough room.

Conception was on the fringe of being included and he is on my reserve pile along with Ben Wells.

I wish that was his last name. I'd start calling him "Immaculate".

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I wish that was his last name. I'd start calling him "Immaculate".

Yeah, me too.

[Marcelj21]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Oldboy. Not sure if you posted it before but could I see your list? That way I can accurately measure the spots and see if some other guys could fit in there.

Side note: Cubs sent Cabrera(who is being groomed as a starter btw), Watkins, McNutt and Brooks Raley to AAA

Whitenack to AA, Struck to ML camp, no word yet on where he's being assigned.

[Marcelj21]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Also some of the Single A guys that could be bumped up to AA for room reasons should be guys who have a reasonable-good chance of getting up to AA later this year anyway. Soler, Baez, Johnson, definitely Panigua. Need to look at my ML spreadsheets.

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2044789241

This is still the working list. Players are moving all the time, but that is an easy thing to change in the roster. Player movement will happen and AAA guys might get added once the roster is more set. Someone like Esmailin Caridad will push someone off for instance. But other people on the working roster might be released which is why I have over 90 on it for now.

As of now I am working on the guaranteed guys first. Soler, Baez, Maples, etc. The fringe and reserve guys I am holding off on until I know they will be in the roster.

[cubspac]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Cant wait to see what the cubs roster looks like. Thanks for taking time to do the roster

[js3512]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Found these just now: It's a breakdown of who's where right now in the minor league camp. Obviously these rosters still need to be cut down some more but it can give you an idea about who might be where. Iowa's currently at 37 (which will increase as the ML team makes cuts) and Tennessee is currently at 27.

IOWA (37)
PITCHERS (23):
Frank Batista
Dallas Beeler
Jason Berken
Alberto Cabrera
Esmailin Caridad
Carlos Gutierrez
Ty'Relle Harris
Marcus Hatley
Jay Jackson
* Casey Harman
Kyle Hendricks
* Eric Jokisch
Trey McNutt
Yoanner Negrin
* Brooks Raley
Dae-Eun Rhee
Kevin Rhoderick
* Zac Rosscup
Brian Schlitter
Nick Struck
Larry Suarez
* Dontrelle Willis
Tony Zych
CATCHERS (4):
Michael Brenly
Jair Fernandez
# Micah Gibbs
Chad Noble
INFIELDERS (5):
* Justin Bour
Jonathon Mota
Elliot Soto
# Tim Torres
* Logan Watkins
OUTFIELDERS (5):
Evan Crawford
Jae-Hoon Ha
* Nelson Perez
* Rubi Silva
Ty Wright
TENNESSEE (27):
PITCHERS (15):
* Kyler Burke
David Cales
Lendy Castillo
Yeiper Castillo
* Frank del Valle
Eduardo Figueroa
P. J. Francescon
* Austin Kirk
Luis Liria
Matt Loosen
* Jeff Lorick
A. J. Morris
Ryan Searle
* Matt Spencer
Rob Whitenack
CATCHERS (3):
Taylor Davis
Luis Flores
Chadd Krist
INFIELDERS (6):
# Arismendy Alcantara
# Zeke DeVoss
Dustin Geiger
Anthony Giansanti
Dustin Harrington
Paul Hoilman
OUTFIELDERS (4):
John Andreoli
Eliecer Bonne
Taiwan Easterling
Matt Szczur

[Denzel Washington]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Anyone know if there's a Cubs only roster out yet

[skow05]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Anyone know if there's a Cubs only roster out yet

Nothing stemming from this thread I don't believe.

There won't be anything legit by now man. You could probably find good CAP's of the big three in the player vault that you can import into your own roster, but there will not be any comprehensive Cubs roster that is close to accurate.

D/L at your own risk Denzel, love your work.

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I'm only working on the more "big" name prospects right now that are for sure in the roster, i.e Maples, Blackburn, Soler, etc. since the AAA roster will probably be different to what we are expecting when players are released and such the lower importance prospects might get pushed off the roster so I want to focus on the players that are guaranteed to be on the roster.

Once I get these guys done, that will surely be on the roster, Ill release a roster file like other teams have done.

[Denzel Washington]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Nothing stemming from this thread I don't believe.

There won't be anything legit by now man. You could probably find good CAP's of the big three in the player vault that you can import into your own roster, but there will not be any comprehensive Cubs roster that is close to accurate.

D/L at your own risk Denzel, love your work.

Welp all these rosters are horrendous
Soler is an 84 in the one I just downloaded
Thanks

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

OK, update.

I have the main prospects' info, equipment, faces ready to input into the roster. I copied info when available from authentic's roster last year. I'll double check everything to make sure they are still relevant. I also have exported a lot of the correct lower potential players that I don't really care too much about their hitting tendency. C, C-, D players. I am waiting to find players to import for the higher potential guys until I am sure on the potentials and perhaps find them correct tendencies.

Working on the ratings as of now. Mostly entering in the projected ceiling stats for players and years away. I'll then convert these to the in game ratings based on Knight's tables and tweak from there.

What could help me out if you guys had any strong feelings on projections for players. How many years to peak, what those ceiling stats might be, comparable players, etc. Any opinions you can give could speed up the process for me as I'm still debating a lot of the ratings.

I have projections for some of the players already, but of course a lot of its my opinion. I'd be curious to see what you guys think, especially on the higher profile prospects that might affect the game more than others.

The other thing that is not necessary, but I'd like to do is get the basic tendencies of players correct. At least for the top hitters. If you have a good idea of their general spray chart LF/CF/RF let me know and I'll try to get a player that has the correct potential and close enough tendency to import and edit. This could be a lot of work so I will probably only do it for the top hitting prospects.

This info can be hard to find in scouting reports all the time, but there are hints in them to give you an idea. For example a report on Villanueva.

At times, Villanueva’s quest to hit for power results in him being a little pull-conscious but with some indoctrination into the “Cubs Way” and the presence of power hitters throughout the system, the need for him to show nothing more than gap power may help to improve his overall approach.