Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Ill see if I can dig up report on Fb velocity for Paniagua, Maples, and Underwood. Paniagua was touching 100 and averaging 93-95 in his starts last year, Maples stays around 93-94 topping out at 97 occasionally. Underwood is jekyl and hyde. One day he'll sit around 89-91 and one day he'll sit at 93-95 and top out at 98. Dont know how you can measure that drastic inconsistency.

You can't really. We'll just go with what their average might be, the way the individual pitches progress this year it might not matter as much since everyone's seems to increase. Ridin said they will look at the individual pitches for V2 of OSFM.

[Denzel Washington]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

no and be carefull. They are banning guys for asking

I thought that was only for making threads?
Is it really bad for me to ask? Lol seems a little too north korea Imo

[Denzel Washington]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Well, he should be a CP because he will be our closer before too much longer. Frickin marmol.

I thought it was ricky vaughn out there

[js3512]

In case you haven't seen it, Iowa set their roster today on Iowacubs.com. They do have a second catcher now.

Tennessee will announce their roster tomorrow.

[js3512]

I thought it was ricky vaughn out there

Compared to marmol, Ricky Vaughn is a master of pitch control lol

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I thought that was only for making threads?
Is it really bad for me to ask? Lol seems a little too north korea Imo

They get very strict because it starts to get ugly sometimes as people don't really get how long it takes just to import all the players that Ridin and Knight get. Think about 40-50ish players per team, 30 teams. Could be over 1500 players just to import. Then setting the rosters, finding the FA players to be put on teams. Making last minute adjustments like what we are talking about here. Since all the importing needs to be done on a single roster it is very tedious. Download roster, load roster, export each player individually, load OSFM roster, import each player individually.

It seems very close though, Ridin posted today he is waiting on just two teams. But then he still needs to import, not sure if he has the other teams all imported as its a ton of players. Since Ridin is handling all the importing people need to give him some time.

I'm a big fan of your work as well Mr. Washington and honored you'll be enjoying the fine work of OSFM this year.

[authentic]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

They get very strict because it starts to get ugly sometimes as people don't really get how long it takes just to import all the players that Ridin and Knight get. Think about 40-50ish players per team, 30 teams. Could be over 1500 players just to import. Then setting the rosters, finding the FA players to be put on teams. Making last minute adjustments like what we are talking about here. Since all the importing needs to be done on a single roster it is very tedious. Download roster, load roster, export each player individually, load OSFM roster, import each player individually.

It seems very close though, Ridin posted today he is waiting on just two teams. But then he still needs to import, not sure if he has the other teams all imported as its a ton of players. Since Ridin is handling all the importing people need to give him some time.

I'm a big fan of your work as well Mr. Washington and honored you'll be enjoying the fine work of OSFM this year.

In years past Knight and Ridin would be importing as they get each team. I would imagine they have done testing to an extent already and he's just waiting to import the two other teams, set their lineups and just make sure they're not missing anything.

[MrOldboy]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Whitenack was DFA, but he will probably clear. Unless someone like the Rockies or someone wants to take a shot on him.

[authentic]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Whitenack was DFA, but he will probably clear. Unless someone like the Rockies or someone wants to take a shot on him.

Whitenack will clear waivers. Saw him throw a couple times this spring and he was hardly impressive. Not only did he look scared on the mound, but he lacked any sort of command of his great sinker. He needs to regroup himself before he'll be considered a legitimate prospect again.

[jseward92]

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Compared to marmol, Ricky Vaughn is a master of pitch control lol

Marmol is putrid. I think they found their 10 million dollar mop up man.

[Marcelj21]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Whitenack will clear waivers. Saw him throw a couple times this spring and he was hardly impressive. Not only did he look scared on the mound, but he lacked any sort of command of his great sinker. He needs to regroup himself before he'll be considered a legitimate prospect again.

Yea velo was down to 88-89mph. Still think he has time to get back to form.

[Denzel Washington]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Marmol is putrid. I think they found their 10 million dollar mop up man.

I was almost in tears over how bad he was
I honestly thought we were going to lose the lead
He got lucky jones has negative plate discipline

[Marcelj21]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Here's those reports I owe you for average velo on Maples, Paniagua, and Underwood

Baseball Prospectus
4. Dillon Maples, RHP
DOB: 5/9/92
Height/Weight: 6-2/195
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Signed: 14th round, 2011 (Pinecrest HS, NC)
2011 Stats: N/A
Tools Profile: This teenage righty has athleticism and upside.

Year in Review: Maples was seen by many as an impossible sign due to his college commitment, but the Cubs shocked the industry by giving $2.5 million to their 14th-round pick.
The Good: Maples' upside as a starter is unmatched in the system. He already pitches in the low- to mid-90s with natural movement, and scouts think there could be more in him with some professional instruction. His power breaking ball was one of the best among prep arms in the draft. If he attended college, this very athletic pitcher would have also played football.
The Bad: Maples barely has a changeup; he simply never needed the pitch as an amateur. His delivery isn't exactly pretty, but the arm works and he throws strikes. More than anything, he just needs innings and the experience to learn how to make adjustments.
Ephemera: Only four players have ever been drafted out of Pinecrest High School, and both are father-son pairs. Maples’ father, Tim, was a second-round pick by the Orioles in 1979; former White Sox pitcher James Baldwin (1990) and his namesake son (2010) are the other pair.
Perfect World Projection: He could be an above-average big-league starter.
Fantasy Impact: It’s hard to project exact results, other than good.
Path to the Big Leagues: This spring, Maples will try to convince management that he's ready for a full-season assignment.

Cubs Den

Juan Paniagua

There's still some mystery with Paniagua. He hasn't pitched a lot of organized ball but unlike Maples, he hasn't been around the team that long in extended spring training/instructs either. He may stay back in AZ so the Cubs can evaluate him and stretch him out as a starter. Whenever the Cubs decide to run him out there, Paniagua should have an immediate impact with a fastball that has reportedly touched triple digits. He generates that velocity out of an effortless delivery, so the ball just explodes out of his hand and creates some deception. He also showed a hard slider and the makings of a plus change-up. Some have concerns that his slight build (6'1', 175) and arm action are best suited for relief. If so, he has a chance to be a closer. Paniagua's age (23 when season starts) and stuff may mean he could even skip a level and go to Daytona -- if he shows enough progress in AZ.

Duane Underwood

will start the season in extended spring training where the Cubs hope to help him develop consistency with his upper 90s fastball, big breaking curve, and smooth, athletic delivery. If that happens, the next step is a mid-season promotion to Boise. If he shows he can harness that tremendous ability and translate it to results on the mound at Boise, then a few late season starts at Kane County becomes a legit possibility.

Another on Underwood

Duane Underwood: RHP, Pope HS (GA), 6'2", 205
Underwood throws very hard, easily into the mid-upper 90s. However, as big as his arm is, are as big as the inconsistencies are with both his control and command. Additionally, he sometimes does not retain his velocity deep into games. He flashes both a plus curve and an above average changeup, but both are so inconsistent, they can only be called average at best now, probably fringy right now.

He is very athletic and has an idea of how to pitch, which are both pluses, leading one to believe he could develop well. With proper development he could be an ace, but without it, he could easily fizzle in the minors due to control and command woes.

MLB Comparison: Brandon Morrow

[jseward92]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

I was almost in tears over how bad he was
I honestly thought we were going to lose the lead
He got lucky jones has negative plate discipline

Also lucky that we had Russell who came in and got one, then Fujikawa got the last one. Theo & Co. must be putting pressure to keep Marmol in that role to improve his trade stock. No other reason I can see why he is still the closer. Fujikawa doesn't need time to adjust, Russell wasn't terrible in the role last year either. I'd rather see Camp in that role. Your closer needs to have command.

[Denzel Washington]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Also lucky that we had Russell who came in and got one, then Fujikawa got the last one. Theo & Co. must be putting pressure to keep Marmol in that role to improve his trade stock. No other reason I can see why he is still the closer. Fujikawa doesn't need time to adjust, Russell wasn't terrible in the role last year either. I'd rather see Camp in that role. Your closer needs to have command.

I think Fujikawa Deserves the Role
Would be amazing if he somehow becomes a ROTY candidate
Pipe dream
Marmol should've been traded
all this is doing is ruining trade value
He honestly could not find the strike zone
I think only one pitch was in the zone and that was meatball