Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

[ilstu24]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Anyone have a Fujikawa in the vault? Probably shouldnt have 5 pitches. Also his last pitch has no ratings.

[Denzel Washington]

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Fujikawa is known to have a rising fastball
I wish there was an Option for that

[Denzel Washington]

Re: Cubs Player Potential Discussion: 2013 OSFM roster

Anyone have a Fujikawa in the vault? Probably shouldnt have 5 pitches. Also his last pitch has no ratings.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ns-thread.html

[Birdman18]

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The bears and the packers "rivalry" is extremely uneventful
Both teams have almost never been good together
If anything its only viewed as a rivalry because its a division opponent
You clear don't know what constitutes a rivalry if you really think The Cubs and Sox aren't rivals just because they're in different Leagues
And what does the Bears Packers Rivalry record have to do with anything

You clearly didn't look enoughhttp://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/15045/soriano-would-consider-trade-to-yankees

If you quote blog posts, we'll be here all week going back and forth. Cashman has already said that they will look internally to find a replacement, and that was after getting Wells. Epstein has already said Soriano is too valuable to this team at the present to get rid of him.. If the Yanks fall behind the Orioles, Jays, or Red Sox, I doubt they tie themselves to two years worth of a 37 yr old declining corner outfielder.. It's not the opinion of a forum poster, but simple economics. Granderson wil be back in may, so the Yanks won't need to panic about their OF situation. Epstein has said recently if the Cubs are way down, they'd consider getting rid of Soriano to only a contender who offers solid prospects.. Which is why I said Baltimore... Maybe Arizona or another team that's contending.. You are going off of theories back almost 2 months to last year.

As far as rivalries go, I'm from Chicago and we could give 2 craps about the sox cubs series.. The Bears Packers rivalry is better because you have the top 2 teams all time in wins playing against each other in the same division, twice a year.. So your assumption about them hardly being good at the same time is completely inaccurate and down right silly..

[Birdman18]

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The White Sox vs Cubs rivalry is artificial and boring. It's a joke rivalry that only matters to the casual fans.

The Cubs have a much more interesting and relevant rivalry with the Cardinals. Honestly, in the stretch from 07-10, the best Cubs rivalry was with Milwaukee. That was intense and heated.

Like I said, the White Sox rivalry is silly and forced. It doesn't feel authentic or necessary at all. It's purely for the casual fans in Chicago to bark at each other. The players (outside of the Pierzynski thing) don't care about the rivalry and rarely ever have.

Very true....

[jseward92]

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someone noticed I left Fujikawa with a 0 SCV. I changed the order of his pitches and his movement at the last minute after asking Seanjeezy. He interpreted his pitch f/x data better I would assume so I used his movements, but I guess I forgot to change his SCV. His overall remained an 81 after I put in Jeezy's edits so I didn't notice his SCV was a 0.

Anyways it should be

SCV 73.5 MPH 71 movement, control in line with his other pitches so in the 40-44 range should be good. This does raise him to an 82 overall to those who thought he was a bit low, only 1 pt though.

Anyone have a Fujikawa in the vault? Probably shouldnt have 5 pitches. Also his last pitch has no ratings.

Here is your answer ilstu24, I believe you wanted him rated and there is data showing he has 5 pitches. He has a 4seam, forkball, curveball, cutter, and changeup. But he doesn't use the last two a whole lot.

[jnavarro]

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I'm not doing it for obvious reasons, but you can make a crazy spring trade as the Cubs. For some reason, the Tampa Bay Rays REALLY want Darwin Barney. You can reverse that Garza trade plus some. Best deal I found was Barney and a backup catcher for Matt Moore, Chris Archer, and Taylor Guerrieri.

The Dodgers what him bad also and will give Puig and Jansen plus some. I'm not busting my franchise but I thought it was funny that this is possible.

[Marcelj21]

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Whitenack claimed by the Indians.

[Denzel Washington]

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If you quote blog posts, we'll be here all week going back and forth. Cashman has already said that they will look internally to find a replacement, and that was after getting Wells. Epstein has already said Soriano is too valuable to this team at the present to get rid of him.. If the Yanks fall behind the Orioles, Jays, or Red Sox, I doubt they tie themselves to two years worth of a 37 yr old declining corner outfielder.. It's not the opinion of a forum poster, but simple economics. Granderson wil be back in may, so the Yanks won't need to panic about their OF situation. Epstein has said recently if the Cubs are way down, they'd consider getting rid of Soriano to only a contender who offers solid prospects.. Which is why I said Baltimore... Maybe Arizona or another team that's contending.. You are going off of theories back almost 2 months to last year.

As far as rivalries go, I'm from Chicago and we could give 2 craps about the sox cubs series.. The Bears Packers rivalry is better because you have the top 2 teams all time in wins playing against each other in the same division, twice a year.. So your assumption about them hardly being good at the same time is completely inaccurate and down right silly..

Lol Yea lets watch 2 teams who are unbalanced play one another
Packers and bears have not been good at the same time in a while
I know people in NY who think of the Cubs white sox rivalry more than the boring packers bears rivalry
Cubs have a larger fan base than the bears so I would see more people caring about the cubs rivalry
And the only reason they're the teams with the most wins is because they're by far older than any other franchise so its not like it matters

[Birdman18]

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Lol Yea lets watch 2 teams who are unbalanced play one another
Packers and bears have not been good at the same time in a while
I know people in NY who think of the Cubs white sox rivalry more than the boring packers bears rivalry
Cubs have a larger fan base than the bears so I would see more people caring about the cubs rivalry
And the only reason they're the teams with the most wins is because they're by far older than any other franchise so its not like it matters

Bears vs Packers- 8.6 million tv viewers

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...iewers/148726/

Cubs vs White Sox - they both average around 70,000-75,000 viewers per game.

http://www.shermanreport.com/white-sox-lead-cubs-tv-ratings-chicago-cubs-csn-rating-163-2008/

So your theory is BS..

[skow05]

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Lol Yea lets watch 2 teams who are unbalanced play one another
Packers and bears have not been good at the same time in a while
I know people in NY who think of the Cubs white sox rivalry more than the boring packers bears rivalry
Cubs have a larger fan base than the bears so I would see more people caring about the cubs rivalry
And the only reason they're the teams with the most wins is because they're by far older than any other franchise so its not like it matters

Right...like the Cardinals...or the Brewers. Not the White Sox. The Reds and Pirates are more of a "rival" than they are.

On Topic: Not too torn up about Whitenack being claimed. I wish the best for him, but he's got a long road ahead of him to return to his former self.

[Denzel Washington]

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Bears vs Packers- 8.6 million tv viewers

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...iewers/148726/

Cubs vs White Sox - they both average around 70,000-75,000 viewers per game.

http://www.shermanreport.com/white-sox-lead-cubs-tv-ratings-chicago-cubs-csn-rating-163-2008/

So your theory is BS..

More people watch a football game the a baseball game? You don't say?
Nowhere in my post did I say that. I said the cubs have a larger fan base and that much is evident with their own Broadcasting channel. In case you weren't aware most Football games are shown on national TV so theres not really much weight behind that argument
Now that we got your straw man argument out of the way The cubs have their own National Coverage albeit on a different stage with WGN showing most of their games Nationally but to a smaller base of people. Now please continue with your straw men

[Denzel Washington]

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Right...like the Cardinals...or the Brewers. Not the White Sox. The Reds and Pirates are more of a "rival" than they are.

On Topic: Not too torn up about Whitenack being claimed. I wish the best for him, but he's got a long road ahead of him to return to his former self.

Yes I suppose the cubs fighting for last place with the astros last year is more interesting than watching 2 teams from the same city play to see who comes out on top but thats just because the Sox are in a different league so by all means lets cherish hype up one division team over a team thats in the same city solely because one is in a different league
I guess the Lakers have a deeper Rivalry with the Suns than the celtics because of the different conferences

[MrOldboy]

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Looks like they may have nerfed Junior Lakes Arm Strength as well. It's currently at a 68. Right now Josh Vitters & Christian Villanueva have stronger arms, and Ian Stewart & Jeimer Candelario are only slightly behind Lake in that dept. Was this intended? If not, what do you think a good rating would be? Mid-to-high 80's?

I'm assuming they knocked Baez down because he was becoming too good too quickly? Just a guess.

I noticed the Fujikawa issue late last night as well, thanks for posting the ratings for the SCV.

Great job man!! If I noticed anything else I'll make sure to point it out!

Ridin said his simmed stats were off. He also said though he will be adjusted, he is aware of Baez being knocked way down.

I see lake as being fairly close to his b- ceiling, so 68 might be too low for him to progress to the arm that he has. I think high 70s or 80 would get him up there. I'm not home so I can't check my sim franchises to see exactly how his arm progresses.

I can't check right now but maybe I left lake too low myself.

[skow05]

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Yes I suppose the cubs fighting for last place with the astros last year is more interesting than watching 2 teams from the same city play to see who comes out on top but thats just because the Sox are in a different league so by all means lets cherish hype up one division team over a team thats in the same city solely because one is in a different league
I guess the Lakers have a deeper Rivalry with the Suns than the celtics because of the different conferences

Okay, you care about it more than I do. Just stop trying to build it up like it's some grandiose rivalry. It's not. It's for the casuals and meatheads so they talk trash and have something to brag about. Gordon Beckham suckzzz!! LOLZZZ! And don't ever compare it to the Lakers/Celtics. Fugswrongwitchu.

MrOldBoy - Yeah, I just threw Lake up to an 82 Arm Strength like you had in the original Cubs OSFM roster posted to the vault. I think I wound up matching Baez for the most part from that set as well, comparitively speaking, him being rated that low doesn't seem fair.

Who are you guys replacing Whitenack with? Any CAP's you can upload to the vault MrOldBoy? Thanks!