OSFM 2013: New York Mets

[BrianU]

Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

I think were doing okay it should be done in the next two weeks, i'll post here after I add a bunch more players but I upload a new roster and delete the old one basically every night so the newest one will be on the Roster Vault

[keystone570]

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Sounds good i appreciate you guys work very much

[BrianU]

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Ok minor update:

I decided to leave those minor league players ratings alone EXCEPT for Satin and Lutz. Everyone else is back to the default that SCEA put them. I realize they are older and not prospects. I also lowered Wheeler and Syndergaard's ratings a touch they are now rated 91 and 85. I imported all of the players to the newest Online roster so Omar Quintanilla is on there.

[jetropolitans]

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Hey Guys! Sorry to chime in so late in the process. Last year was my 1st experience with the show and its amazinf ability to edit rosters! I was dying to come back this year and get in on the OSFM Mets roster but now my schedule prohibits it. I certainly can be of help with scouting reports and info on even the most obscure Mets farmhands.

That being said, Metsfan4life's Faces so far are awesome so far!

On the Ratings side B, I had the same initial thought about the prospects initial ratings being too high. Maybe you are right about it not being a big deal but I am sure other non Mets fans might have a gripe. When I took your guys 'unrated' Wheeler from the vault and just went in and edited his atributes with just my best idea of what they should be(not following the charts), He came out as an 85 or 86(1 or 2 points lower than Harvey). I guess It will be interesting to see how other top pitching prospects come out for other teams(ex: Jose Fernandez, Walker, etc) following the chart rules. For comperison, What does Shelby Miller and other top prospects that are SC created pitcher's ratings look like?

Either way Incredible job! And I am jealous that I cant be more involved! Maybe next year! I will certainly enjoy the Rosters when they are done though!

[jetropolitans]

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Also, one move you guys missed,

Justin Hampson resigned a minor league deal with the Mets(not invited to major league camp). He is in the FA pool.

[jetropolitans]

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Guys I would love to see!

1.German(Ahmed) Rosario-ss(prob A rating) -was #1 international prospect b4 signing one of the biggest bonuses of the year last year.

2.Wuilmer Baccera-of -another top international signing b4 bein beened in the face last season in the gulf coast league, aquired in the Ra Dickey trade.

3.Matt Bowman-sp -simply because he is fun to watch and is a Lincicum clone! Who else can you give Lincicums wind up to in the game?

4.Steven Matz-sp -back on the radar after taking almost two years to recover from TJ. Was Mets top pick a few years ago and is now finally pumping the ball in the mid 90s again! Ward Melville H.S. product! Lefty too! We dont have many!

Alos, I think I saw you got most of the other minor league veteran signings like Patterson, Wilson, Hampson(who is in the game already) in your original post, but we also re-signed Josh Rodriquez-ss and signed Rhyne Hughs-1b(from bal).

Thoughts?

[BrianU]

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It's tough when using the charts because you are supposed to rate them as if they are at the MLB level. I think 95-96 is where he could end up at his peak but I wish he were lower to start with.

He is a 91 right now based on being 1 year away from the majors. With the chart for example for an 'A' pitching prospect that is 1 year away I have him rated to:

pitch 160 IP
give up 190-180 Hits (Not sure out of how many innings total thats based, 200? but it is just about above average I believe)
Average clutch player

^ These stats (Stamina, Hits/9, and Pitching clutch) will progress over time

190 K's (based on around 200 ip)
give up 19-15 HRs per year (200 ip)
give up 70 walks per year (200 ip)

^ these stats DO NOT progress so they must be rated as he will perform at the major league level.

How do you guys feel about this, what should I lower? I think it is all reasonable and it turns out to a 91 overall rating.. i don't feel I overrated him that's just what the formula comes out to. At this moment Harvey is rated 87, I think at this very moment Wheeler IS a better pitcher....

Wheeler http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...722&position=P
2011 AA -116 IP 3.26 ERA 1.16 WHIP 9.08 K/9
2012 AAA - 33 IP 3.27 ERA 1.18 WHIP 8.45 K/9

Harvey http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...713&position=P
2011 AA -59.2 IP 4.52 ERA 1.36 WHIP 9.55 K/9
2012 AAA - 110 IP 3.68 ERA 1.32 WHIP 9.16 K/9

Harvey wasn't an elite pitcher in AAA but Wheeler will be this year. The WHIP's are most notably much closer to elite for Wheeler. On top of that I had to give him his 95 MPH fastball which anyplayer which boosts the overall rating but im not gonna give him a speed he doesnt have. I gave him a plus curveball to go with his plus fastball and a below average changeup and a below below average slider. I think it matches up fine but I want to hear what you guys think.

EDIT: I should have just compared Harvey to Wheeler from the stat with their ingame stats instead of relying solely on the chart, they are both A potential and harvey is only 1 year older. I have Wheeler at an 89 now, Harvey default is 87. I think thats good. I'll try to bring down Syndergaard from am 85 but not too much

[BrianU]

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Are you guys seeing this too or is it just me? I had a roster up yesterday without Omar Q so I got rid of it and used the roster on my harddrive that had him but then noticed there was no Byrd.

So I deleted that and made sure to download the newest roster from this thread because the game didn't give me any option to download a roster update after I deleted all of the roster files: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ates-here.html

The march 3rd update I think that was the only roster update right? Well I see Byrd again thankfully but it doesnt have Omar Q in the organization when the original roster that came with the game I had he was in it...

Does anyone have a roster with both Byrd and Omar Q? I think we have to make a created player for Omar which sucks because he had his full player picture and everything

[BrianU]

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Guys I would love to see!

1.German(Ahmed) Rosario-ss(prob A rating) -was #1 international prospect b4 signing one of the biggest bonuses of the year last year.

2.Wuilmer Baccera-of -another top international signing b4 bein beened in the face last season in the gulf coast league, aquired in the Ra Dickey trade.

3.Matt Bowman-sp -simply because he is fun to watch and is a Lincicum clone! Who else can you give Lincicums wind up to in the game?

4.Steven Matz-sp -back on the radar after taking almost two years to recover from TJ. Was Mets top pick a few years ago and is now finally pumping the ball in the mid 90s again! Ward Melville H.S. product! Lefty too! We dont have many!

Alos, I think I saw you got most of the other minor league veteran signings like Patterson, Wilson, Hampson(who is in the game already) in your original post, but we also re-signed Josh Rodriquez-ss and signed Rhyne Hughs-1b(from bal).

Thoughts?

I'm not that well read with the A level or most AA level guys but you look like you know your stuff! metsfan4life1 is making the player faces and bios and the stuff if you want to try your hand at rating the guys according to the OSFM potential charts your welcome to join in!

[metsfan4life1]

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I'm just uploading Corey Patterson now. Profile picture of him doesn't look good but when you see him in the editor he looks pretty good. Will be doing more triple A guys today.. Could get the rest of them done.. Then I can do the above guys( aside from Bowman as I have to get the mets specific players done first.. Knight is doing the un-notable double A guys faces included..

[BrianU]

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I took a closer look at things and I think I got it figured out now for rating pitchers. The charts for pitchers is a little confusing (or I was doing it wrong for pitchers, I feel pretty good about the position players but I was holding back on rating pitchers now I see how they should scale).

I compared Syndergaards ratings with Dylan Bundy. same ages/ETA's Bundy is projected to be an Ace, Syndergaard a back of the rotation starter so I scaled him back to line up with that. Syndergaard is a 74 Now. I also lowered Wheeler to an 89, still above Harvey as I think he should be but more room to grow.

I think all of the stats individually reflect how these guys perform i.e. Syndergaard has a very low BB rate, Wheelers big problem is walking too many guys, they both give up very little Hrs, Wheeler has a plus fastball/curve, syndergaard has a plus fastball and lesser secondary stuff.

Im uploading the newest roster with these edits let me know how you guys feel about anything. The rest of the organization is the same as the SCEA ratings except for Zach Lutz and Josh Satin. SCEA rated them 55 & 53 and had them both set as AA players which I dont understand so I boosted them up a little to 58 and 57

[yanksdaniel99]

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Guys I would love to see!

1.German(Ahmed) Rosario-ss(prob A rating) -was #1 international prospect b4 signing one of the biggest bonuses of the year last year.

2.Wuilmer Baccera-of -another top international signing b4 bein beened in the face last season in the gulf coast league, aquired in the Ra Dickey trade.

3.Matt Bowman-sp -simply because he is fun to watch and is a Lincicum clone! Who else can you give Lincicums wind up to in the game?

4.Steven Matz-sp -back on the radar after taking almost two years to recover from TJ. Was Mets top pick a few years ago and is now finally pumping the ball in the mid 90s again! Ward Melville H.S. product! Lefty too! We dont have many!

Alos, I think I saw you got most of the other minor league veteran signings like Patterson, Wilson, Hampson(who is in the game already) in your original post, but we also re-signed Josh Rodriquez-ss and signed Rhyne Hughs-1b(from bal).

Thoughts?

Way, way too high on Rosario. He's 16 and yet to play a professional game, he's a B with a very very very low overall at best.

I like Beccera, but again young guy with minimal expierence, same situation as Rosario.

Really really like Matz, got a chance to see him in person back in July, must have struck out 6 or 7 that night and I think only gave up 3 or 4 hits. If he could stay healthy for more then 5 games, he'd be very high on my list. Once again young guy, minimal expierence, would be B or B- on him.

[keystone570]

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Is there a certain way you guys rate the players? i seen the spreadsheeds in the main OSFM post but is it just your guess what the player will be? If somebody has some time could you maybe post or pm how you actually do these rosters im really interested in the process. I cant even find the mets minors rosters only a few players

[metsfan4life1]

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Way, way too high on Rosario. He's 16 and yet to play a professional game, he's a B with a very very very low overall at best.

I like Beccera, but again young guy with minimal expierence, same situation as Rosario.

Really really like Matz, got a chance to see him in person back in July, must have struck out 6 or 7 that night and I think only gave up 3 or 4 hits. If he could stay healthy for more then 5 games, he'd be very high on my list. Once again young guy, minimal expierence, would be B or B- on him.

Have you checked out any of my players?

[jetropolitans]

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Way, way too high on Rosario. He's 16 and yet to play a professional game, he's a B with a very very very low overall at best.

I like Beccera, but again young guy with minimal expierence, same situation as Rosario.

Really really like Matz, got a chance to see him in person back in July, must have struck out 6 or 7 that night and I think only gave up 3 or 4 hits. If he could stay healthy for more then 5 games, he'd be very high on my list. Once again young guy, minimal expierence, would be B or B- on him.

Yeah I dont think many 16 yo get A ratings but he was the #1 overall international prspect last year. super raw! but A potential with 6-7 years away(so low actual ratings) wouldnt be to crazy i think. So none of the young international prospects ever signed should have 'A' potential? He was ranked #1 available by many scouts.

Baccera certainly much lower.

Matz is about to shoot up the prospect rankings by the end of the year in IMO. Reports of his 'stuff' are off the charts now! plus he is performing in the small chances he has had since being healthy! Very excited