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  • jetropolitans
    Rookie
    • Mar 2012
    • 172

    #91
    Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

    Originally posted by BrianU
    I took a closer look at things and I think I got it figured out now for rating pitchers. The charts for pitchers is a little confusing (or I was doing it wrong for pitchers, I feel pretty good about the position players but I was holding back on rating pitchers now I see how they should scale).

    I compared Syndergaards ratings with Dylan Bundy. same ages/ETA's Bundy is projected to be an Ace, Syndergaard a back of the rotation starter so I scaled him back to line up with that. Syndergaard is a 74 Now. I also lowered Wheeler to an 89, still above Harvey as I think he should be but more room to grow.

    I think all of the stats individually reflect how these guys perform i.e. Syndergaard has a very low BB rate, Wheelers big problem is walking too many guys, they both give up very little Hrs, Wheeler has a plus fastball/curve, syndergaard has a plus fastball and lesser secondary stuff.

    Im uploading the newest roster with these edits let me know how you guys feel about anything. The rest of the organization is the same as the SCEA ratings except for Zach Lutz and Josh Satin. SCEA rated them 55 & 53 and had them both set as AA players which I dont understand so I boosted them up a little to 58 and 57

    Youre def doing an awesome job! Its a learning experience for sure. I just played a game against bundy and he was a 78 and he is the number one pitching prospect in the game and already has MLB experience. I took a look at his ratings and stamina was low as well as running and break was alot lower than my Wheeler. I think you got a great idea to not only use the charts but use some of the stud prospects that are in the game for quick comparisons.
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    • jetropolitans
      Rookie
      • Mar 2012
      • 172

      #92
      Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

      Originally posted by BrianU
      Are you guys seeing this too or is it just me? I had a roster up yesterday without Omar Q so I got rid of it and used the roster on my harddrive that had him but then noticed there was no Byrd.

      So I deleted that and made sure to download the newest roster from this thread because the game didn't give me any option to download a roster update after I deleted all of the roster files: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ates-here.html

      The march 3rd update I think that was the only roster update right? Well I see Byrd again thankfully but it doesnt have Omar Q in the organization when the original roster that came with the game I had he was in it...

      Does anyone have a roster with both Byrd and Omar Q? I think we have to make a created player for Omar which sucks because he had his full player picture and everything

      I am pretty sure it is in the vault. Someone posted the 1st update unaltered I believe. It should have Q and Byrd on the Mets and Hampson in the FA pool.
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      • jetropolitans
        Rookie
        • Mar 2012
        • 172

        #93
        Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

        Originally posted by metsfan4life1
        I'm just uploading Corey Patterson now. Profile picture of him doesn't look good but when you see him in the editor he looks pretty good. Will be doing more triple A guys today.. Could get the rest of them done.. Then I can do the above guys( aside from Bowman as I have to get the mets specific players done first.. Knight is doing the un-notable double A guys faces included..
        Are you using the service time guys for guys like corey patterson and Mike Wilson.

        If you edit them over guys who have service time(listed on 1st page of OSFM Roster page) they wont(shpuldnt be) be listed as rookies in franchise. Use thiis guy to make them.

        CF Eric Manuta on WHITE SOX is editable with service time of 4.019 only bad thing is he is C potential
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        • BrianU
          MVP
          • Nov 2008
          • 1565

          #94
          Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

          Just added some more guys to the roster:

          OF Corey Vaughn
          OF Cesar Puello
          OF Brandon Nimmo
          SS Gavin Checchini

          also updated stats on all other prospects. As I mentioned before Wheeler is an OVR 89 and Syndergaard is an OVR 74.

          Roster name is 'Mets OSFM WIP Roster' uploaded by BrianUdz.

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          • yanksdaniel99
            MVP
            • Jun 2011
            • 1185

            #95
            Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

            Originally posted by BrianU
            Just added some more guys to the roster:

            OF Corey Vaughn
            OF Cesar Puello
            OF Brandon Nimmo
            SS Gavin Checchini

            also updated stats on all other prospects. As I mentioned before Wheeler is an OVR 89 and Syndergaard is an OVR 74.

            Roster name is 'Mets OSFM WIP Roster' uploaded by BrianUdz.
            Too high on Wheeler, needs to be closer to an 80 to match up with the rest of the OSFM set. I'll take a look and let you know what to decrease.

            Are you using Knight's charts to rate ?

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            • BrianU
              MVP
              • Nov 2008
              • 1565

              #96
              Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

              Originally posted by yanksdaniel99
              Too high on Wheeler, needs to be closer to an 80 to match up with the rest of the OSFM set. I'll take a look and let you know what to decrease.

              Are you using Knight's charts to rate ?
              I am..

              I feel most of the position players are like 10 points higher than I want the overalls to be but if I rate them according to the charts thats where they add up...... it doenst make sense. Like Puello and Vaughn are around 70 in AA but compared to every other teams double A their highest guys are 60s. I dont see how to make these guys 60 using the B/C potential charts and matching up the scouting reports for 3 year growths. Nimmo too. They all have above average fielding with plus speed which inflates the overall. For power I read they can end up being 20 HR guys, Puello just went from a 1 HR season to 10 HR season and they said he compares to Beltran in his A seasons. I don't think 20 HR is off the charts for an OFer which using the chart 3 years out is like a 45 rating. Average I think I put Puello at 280s and Vaughn at 260s, maybe I did it wrong? Im not gonna project them to hit .250 in the majors but I could be reading the chart wrong

              For Wheeler I dont see how 89 is too high. Overall doesn't really matter Knight said to me and I dont care too much about it. I rated all the individual stats as I see them matching up. Stamina and H/9 progress while K/9, BB/9, HR/9 and the individual pitches attributes dont progress so you set them at MLB level as the chart says...

              Wheeler had better stats than Harvey did in AA/AAA (.15 whip lower) and is only 2 points higher than him. I think right now 3.15.13 Wheeler is a better pitcher than Harvey 2 points higher doesnt seem too bad, if your gonna pay attention to overall. Im more concerned with the position players but let me know if you see anything I should do wrong i wanna get it fixed before I do every player
              Last edited by BrianU; 03-15-2013, 08:48 PM.

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              • yanksdaniel99
                MVP
                • Jun 2011
                • 1185

                #97
                Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

                Originally posted by BrianU
                I am..

                I feel most of the position players are like 10 points higher than I want the overalls to be but if I rate them according to the charts thats where they add up...... it doenst make sense. Like Puello and Vaughn are around 70 in AA but compared to every other teams double A their highest guys are 60s. I dont see how to make these guys 60 using the B/C potential charts and matching up the scouting reports for 3 year growths.
                Ok the years away is how many years they are from their PRIME, not their debut, if the ratings are too high bump them back a year. I tend to use age 25-26 as a player's prime ...

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                • BrianU
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1565

                  #98
                  Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

                  Originally posted by yanksdaniel99
                  Ok the years away is how many years they are from their PRIME, not their debut, if the ratings are too high bump them back a year. I tend to use age 25-26 as a player's prime ...
                  Oh **** that make sense! I thought it was years away from debut like MLB ETA..

                  i'll fix it all tomorrow it shouldn't take me too long I already know where I want them to end up at. Thanks for clearing that up

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                  • seanjeezy
                    The Future
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 3347

                    #99
                    Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

                    Originally posted by BrianU
                    Oh **** that make sense! I thought it was years away from debut like MLB ETA..

                    i'll fix it all tomorrow it shouldn't take me too long I already know where I want them to end up at. Thanks for clearing that up
                    The years away don't necessarily have to be from a player's prime, it applies to any stat line. It's just simpler to project a player's prime instead of his first year. That being said I still have Wheeler at 85 using ZiPS projections and after nerfing his command to account for future growth...
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                    • metsfan4life1
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 956

                      #100
                      Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

                      Updated Darin Gorski to the vault now.. Big improvements to his face.. And a better motion. Deleting the original version of him. This is my fifth player uploaded today. Will be doing Jamie Hoffman and maybe a few more before heading off to bed.
                      Harvey's Better

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                      • metsfan4life1
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 956

                        #101
                        Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

                        The 40 man roster is done. Now it's strictly Triple A players.. Which should be done by Sunday.. Knights doing the rest of the Double A players unless I do some if I have time, which I'll notify him of the ones I do. So GREAT progress is shaping up for the Mets OSFM set... Should be ready in about a week depending on how much time Knight has to do the double A players. Thanks for all your contributions, inquiries, and Downloads to our players. It's been a great pleasure! A lot of hard work but it's paying off. Still more work obviously Thanks!
                        Harvey's Better

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                        • BrianU
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1565

                          #102
                          Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

                          I updated all the ratings thanks to the insight you guys provided. Wheeler is an 81 now and Syndergaard is a 71.

                          Still not too happy about Wilmer Flores OVR 70, Cesar Puello OVR 61 and Cory Vaughn OVR 65 I feel the latter two are a little high but thats where the numbers say. What level do you guys think Puello and Vaughn are gonna be this year, AA right? They seem high at those ratings for AA but i dunno we will see

                          Brandon Nimmo is a 60 OVR, I used the chart to match up his prime as 7 years away (hes 19) and thats where it came out to. I don't even think hes gonna be a stud just a solid player I think I projected like .270 avg 10-15 steals 20 HR guy in his prime, I dont think thats too high but a 60 rating for a single A guy looks bad. i'll keep playing with things but its a lot better than it was

                          EDIT: Talked to yankdaniel99 ratings are fine the way they are. I will start working overtime to get the roster up to speed with metsfan4life1's great player creations!
                          Last edited by BrianU; 03-16-2013, 02:21 AM.

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                          • keystone570
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 199

                            #103
                            Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

                            Awesome just downloaded it looks great. One question where are you finding the mets minors roster i look everywhere online and everything i find just seems to be incomplete even on the offical sites of the minors i dunno

                            for the great effort

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                            • BrianU
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1565

                              #104
                              Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets



                              After spring training it will show the individual starting lineups/rotations for all the minor teams but right now its just a jumble

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                              • keystone570
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 199

                                #105
                                Re: OSFM 2013: New York Mets

                                awesome thanks LOL i was actually on that site like 5 times today.. Can wait to start the franchise the days are getting closer

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