MLB The Show'14(PS3 and PS4)-Operation Sports Full Minors-RECRUITING

[Jibbler]

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Great...thanks guys....

I'll have a few team spreadsheets done in a few days as well.
So if guys don't feel comfortable....they can help out by just inputting the info.


M.K.
Knight165

Thanks be happy to have the spreadsheets handy!

[iTzTHURDYbOy]

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Hicks had 84 SO in 81 g and 313 PA. So he'd get a little under 160k for 600 PA. Not quite the '200' territory.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...icksaa01.shtml

So, 160 k's, still not an MVP. Fringe starter on even the worst of the worst teams.

[Knight165]

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Thanks be happy to have the spreadsheets handy!

Jib....the spreadsheets I'm working on right now are the teams not taken.

Here are the links for the prospect sheets.....

The top lines are the MLB equivalents .......you figure what you think the player will eventually hit...and follow it down to how many years you think it will take the player to hit that mark....

Each sheet is a different potential letter(for varying progressions within the grades)

A PP
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...CNnCq9kH#gid=0

B PP
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...CNbi8ckI#gid=0

C PP
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...CLLameUN#gid=0

A Pitcher
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...CNfuz-kN#gid=0

B Pitcher
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...CM64vLcG#gid=0

C Pitcher

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...CLPhydEN#gid=0

D's are no growth players...so you can rate them as you think they will play from any of the charts top lines.....

M.K.
Knight165

[Knight165]

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What I'm doing is working on sheets for quicker data entry and if someone is willing to just input data on the teams that aren't taken right now.
I've been busy at work...so it's tough to get the time in right now....but here is Tampa Bay in progress

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=0

If anyone is looking to get a jump start and put all the players on a spreadsheet...here is the template...I don't know if I make it public...you can copy it and start your own......if someone knows Google docs....let me know...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=0


M.K.
Knight165

[MrOldboy]

Re: MLB The Show'14(PS3 and PS4)-Operation Sports Full Minors-RECRUITING

Do you plan on adjusting the spreadsheets at all once the game is out and can be tested?

[Knight165]

Re: MLB The Show'14(PS3 and PS4)-Operation Sports Full Minors-RECRUITING

Do you plan on adjusting the spreadsheets at all once the game is out and can be tested?

Yes...we'll have to see how it plays out.
Do you guys have any suggestions as of now?

Also...Willard76 has a ZiPs projection spreadsheet as well.
Hopefully he posts it here and explains his use of it.

M.K.
Knight165

[BDKiiing]

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I have a solid team behind me, hoping to have the Brewers ratings and research ready to go by the time I get the game, then it should take me a few days to input it all. Should definitely be done by that Friday night, and I'll PM you Knight and send it your way.

[seanjeezy]

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Yes...we'll have to see how it plays out.
Do you guys have any suggestions as of now?

Also...Willard76 has a ZiPs projection spreadsheet as well.
Hopefully he posts it here and explains his use of it.

M.K.
Knight165

Well I don't know how others would feel about it, but with training being more user controlled I feel like there really isn't a need for the years away portion. What I did last year (and am doing this year) was/is a twist of current ability and projection systems, and it worked out pretty well. Not only did the majority of my players mirror their 2013 season, but I loved the feeling that it was up to me to decide whether to shore up their weaknesses or continue improving their strengths.

I would also recommend that everyone wait before setting potentials in stone for a couple reasons:

1. The overall rating system (and therefore the potential system) has been changed, there will be less highly rated players

2. Now with numbered potentials we don't have to guess anymore, it should be the same as his overall rating with fully projected ratings.

Also, for those that use auto training - each position has a ratings threshold where progression will level off. Its very similar to the skills depth chart found in the BA handbook (and other places as well), which looks like this:

C - fielding/hitting/arm strength/power/speed
1B - power/hitting/fielding/arm strength/speed
2B - hitting/fielding/power/speed/arm strength
3B - power/hitting/fielding/arm strength/speed
SS - fielding/arm strength/hitting/speed/power
LF - power/hitting/fielding/arm strength/speed
CF - fielding/hitting/speed/power/arm strength
RF - power/hitting/arm strength/fielding/speed

So the CPU will prioritize the ratings based on position.

The only difference that I'm aware of for The Show is that power is more of a priority than fielding for second basemen (aka 70's contact, 60's power, 50's fielding rates better than 70's/50's/60's)

I've done most of the Mariners hitting prospects for this year already, if anyone wants to see any examples I'll be posting my spreadsheet in the Mariners thread. To everyone working on the rosters - Minor league central is your friend, use it as much as you can!

[BDKiiing]

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Oh ****. I completely forgot about the potential rating change. Is it just going to be 0-99 like other ratings?

[seanjeezy]

Re: MLB The Show'14(PS3 and PS4)-Operation Sports Full Minors-RECRUITING

Oh ****. I completely forgot about the potential rating change. Is it just going to be 0-99 like other ratings?

Yeah, its basically the same system but with a number grade in the edit screen. Main difference is the supposedly stingier overall ratings, there won't be as many 90+ rated players.

[BDKiiing]

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Yeah, its basically the same system but with a number grade in the edit screen. Main difference is the supposedly stingier overall ratings, there won't be as many 90+ rated players.

So like guys like Buxton and Taveras should have potential's in the 90's? Just like school letter grade/percentages?

[Knight165]

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Well I don't know how others would feel about it, but with training being more user controlled I feel like there really isn't a need for the years away portion. What I did last year (and am doing this year) was/is a twist of current ability and projection systems, and it worked out pretty well. Not only did the majority of my players mirror their 2013 season, but I loved the feeling that it was up to me to decide whether to shore up their weaknesses or continue improving their strengths.

I would also recommend that everyone wait before setting potentials in stone for a couple reasons:

1. The overall rating system (and therefore the potential system) has been changed, there will be less highly rated players

2. Now with numbered potentials we don't have to guess anymore, it should be the same as his overall rating with fully projected ratings.

Also, for those that use auto training - each position has a ratings threshold where progression will level off. Its very similar to the skills depth chart found in the BA handbook (and other places as well), which looks like this:

C - fielding/hitting/arm strength/power/speed
1B - power/hitting/fielding/arm strength/speed
2B - hitting/fielding/power/speed/arm strength
3B - power/hitting/fielding/arm strength/speed
SS - fielding/arm strength/hitting/speed/power
LF - power/hitting/fielding/arm strength/speed
CF - fielding/hitting/speed/power/arm strength
RF - power/hitting/arm strength/fielding/speed

So the CPU will prioritize the ratings based on position.

The only difference that I'm aware of for The Show is that power is more of a priority than fielding for second basemen (aka 70's contact, 60's power, 50's fielding rates better than 70's/50's/60's)

I've done most of the Mariners hitting prospects for this year already, if anyone wants to see any examples I'll be posting my spreadsheet in the Mariners thread. To everyone working on the rosters - Minor league central is your friend, use it as much as you can!

Technically...you are right about the years away.
The reason that is in ....is a lot of projection material gives the info as "expected to hit .XXX and XX HR's.....etc.
I think guys just felt comfortable picking out what he thought a player would be in the future and working it back.
If you feel confident in giving a player his current "would be in the MLB right now" ratings....it's basically the same thing....so you could do it either way.
Plus.....keep in mind(I know most of you guys realize this already)....is that by giving a player a certain potential...you are basically giving him his ceiling through that. It will kind of "auto adjust" based on that anyway.

As long as you are getting even somewhat close to the players target MLB #'s and potential....you're good to go with how you rate it out.

M.K.
Knight165

[Knight165]

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So like guys like Buxton and Taveras should have potential's in the 90's? Just like school letter grade/percentages?

Yes.....it will show up as an A in the roster screens....but be a 99 in the editor.
Just for argument....88-92 might be A-.....93-95...A...and 96-99 A+....

It's 0-99 in the editor...and A/B/C/D/F in game.

M.K.
Knight165

[seanjeezy]

Re: MLB The Show'14(PS3 and PS4)-Operation Sports Full Minors-RECRUITING

So like guys like Buxton and Taveras should have potential's in the 90's? Just like school letter grade/percentages?

It should be whatever the ratings spit out, but I would imagine they would be pretty high up there. Buxton is supposedly all 7's and 8's right?

[Knight165]

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It should be whatever the ratings spit out, but I would imagine they would be pretty high up there. Buxton is supposedly all 7's and 8's right?

It's actually a new attribute that you can adjust.

M.K.
Knight165