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  • poster
    All Star
    • Nov 2003
    • 7506

    #1

    Pitch Count Slider Question

    Does it effect the computer too, or is there a setting under CPU sliders after you start the game that we have to change? I am at work and the thought just crossed my mind. Thanks.
  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #2
    Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

    It's under the CPU sliders, and it affects both CPU and User.
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    • bcruise
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2004
      • 23274

      #3
      Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

      Just out of curiosity, how would a slider that affects the number of pitches thrown affect a user in any way? Or are you just talking about the "user" in MO mode? What I mean is, if a user-controlled pitcher throws nothing but piped fastballs, the pitch count isn't going to get very high regardless of what the slider is set at.

      High heat was able to do this because you could only choose the general zone you wanted your pitch to go, and then his ratings determined ball or strike (unless you threw a ball intentionally). This game uses the cursor pitching, which allows much more precision and user control.

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      • nemesis04
        RIP Ty My Buddy
        • Feb 2004
        • 13530

        #4
        Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

        Originally posted by bcruise
        Just out of curiosity, how would a slider that affects the number of pitches thrown affect a user in any way? Or are you just talking about the "user" in MO mode? What I mean is, if a user-controlled pitcher throws nothing but piped fastballs, the pitch count isn't going to get very high regardless of what the slider is set at.

        High heat was able to do this because you could only choose the general zone you wanted your pitch to go, and then his ratings determined ball or strike (unless you threw a ball intentionally). This game uses the cursor pitching, which allows much more precision and user control.
        My interpetation of this is that the slider will distort your accuracy. Meaning, even if you hit your release point the ball still will not have pin point accuracy resulting in some pitches falling out of the zone.
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        • Splitter77
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 2820

          #5
          Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

          Originally posted by nemesis04
          My interpetation of this is that the slider will distort your accuracy. Meaning, even if you hit your release point the ball still will not have pin point accuracy resulting in some pitches falling out of the zone.
          so if you max out this slider, the higher the pitch count should be for both teams, correct??

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          • marino13
            D*lph*ns m*k* m* cry
            • Jul 2002
            • 1046

            #6
            Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

            Originally posted by Splitter77
            so if you max out this slider, the higher the pitch count should be for both teams, correct??

            Yes and it does work.Put strike zone on tight and that should help too.

            With the slider maxed you will see more pitches off the mark by both you and the cpu and it also seems to result in more foul balls.

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            • nemesis04
              RIP Ty My Buddy
              • Feb 2004
              • 13530

              #7
              Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

              Originally posted by marino13
              Yes and it does work.Put strike zone on tight and that should help too.

              With the slider maxed you will see more pitches off the mark by both you and the cpu and it also seems to result in more foul balls.
              You are correct sir!
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              • Splitter77
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 2820

                #8
                Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

                Originally posted by marino13
                Yes and it does work.Put strike zone on tight and that should help too.

                With the slider maxed you will see more pitches off the mark by both you and the cpu and it also seems to result in more foul balls.
                cool, thanks.
                didnt even know about that strike zone thing.

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                • nemesis04
                  RIP Ty My Buddy
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 13530

                  #9
                  Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

                  Originally posted by Splitter77
                  cool, thanks.
                  didnt even know about that strike zone thing.
                  You can set it to tight or wide.
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                  • poster
                    All Star
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 7506

                    #10
                    Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

                    Thanks guys!

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                    • poster
                      All Star
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 7506

                      #11
                      Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

                      Originally posted by nemesis04
                      You can set it to tight or wide.
                      Hey Nem. Is that wide or tight setting the varable ump feature that 989 is talking about in the game? Or is it something else? Thanks!

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                      • MachoMyers
                        Old School
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 7670

                        #12
                        Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

                        Originally posted by poster
                        Hey Nem. Is that wide or tight setting the varable ump feature that 989 is talking about in the game? Or is it something else? Thanks!
                        Yeh thats the one. I've been playing with wide and getting pretty good pitch counts even with more strike calls, I'll try some games with tight but I like the "Human" factor the wide option gives.

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                        • nemesis04
                          RIP Ty My Buddy
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 13530

                          #13
                          Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

                          Originally posted by poster
                          Hey Nem. Is that wide or tight setting the varable ump feature that 989 is talking about in the game? Or is it something else? Thanks!
                          Yes this is it! There seems to be some confusion as what the two actually mean. To me, when you put it on tight, you are going to get squeezed as a pitcher and some strikes may be called a ball. Wide to me means that maybe some pitches that are a ball may be called a strike. Some people feel I am wrong with this thinking but if it does not mean this, then it goes against baseball lingo. I asked one of the developers and he agreed with my thinking but was going to confirm this.

                          Others feel that tight means the ump calls a more straight forward game (whatever the hell that means) and wide means there is more variability in his play calling.
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                          • Knight165
                            *ll St*r
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 24964

                            #14
                            Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

                            Originally posted by nemesis04
                            Yes this is it! There seems to be some confusion as what the two actually mean. To me, when you put it on tight, you are going to get squeezed as a pitcher and some strikes may be called a ball. Wide to me means that maybe some pitches that are a ball may be called a strike. Some people feel I am wrong with this thinking but if it does not mean this, then it goes against baseball lingo. I asked one of the developers and he agreed with my thinking but was going to confirm this.

                            Others feel that tight means the ump calls a more straight forward game (whatever the hell that means) and wide means there is more variability in his play calling.
                            I'm with you.
                            I think it has to do with the strike zone.
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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #15
                              Re: Pitch Count Slider Question

                              Originally posted by nemesis04
                              Yes this is it! There seems to be some confusion as what the two actually mean. To me, when you put it on tight, you are going to get squeezed as a pitcher and some strikes may be called a ball. Wide to me means that maybe some pitches that are a ball may be called a strike. Some people feel I am wrong with this thinking but if it does not mean this, then it goes against baseball lingo. I asked one of the developers and he agreed with my thinking but was going to confirm this.

                              Others feel that tight means the ump calls a more straight forward game (whatever the hell that means) and wide means there is more variability in his play calling.
                              I read this somewhere... I don't know what is so confusing about it.

                              Tight means they call it perfectly at the line of strike zone. Wide means they miss some calls here and there. Pretty straight forward.
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