A Potential Breakthrough

[bcruise]

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Use the "Power Swing" as your main swing.

YES YES YES YES YES!

When I started doing this a week or so ago (which coincided with me turning off guess pitch for good), I started to notice a lot more extra base hits when I was making contact with less than two strikes. It also makes some at-bats longer because you're swining and missing at pitches you might be grounding or popping out on with a contact swing. Gotta watch the K's though - It's still pretty easy to miss with that contact swing on 2 strikes, though, and there's no room for error. And if you let the CPU get in a strikeout groove on HOF, it's all over (confidence kicking in).

I'm pretty happy with the settings I'm using, but I just wanted to mention that I think it's a great way of using the two swings.

[davewins]

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I really like your theory on bumping contact up and I want to try it. Can you explain what you mean by contact at 20?? Is that 20 clicks to the right when it is completley zeroed out??

[pberardi]

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i play with the indians and i can say that these seem pretty good. the tribe has a stacked offense so i still get about 10 hits a game. i love the fact that my outfielders dont have cannons anymore because none of the players on my team really have strong arms anyway (blake's is fairly strong though) It takes time getting used to always using the power swing with 0 or 1 strike but i like these overall. nice job

I'm struggling on HOF with zero contact and zero pitch speed (Playmaker's) I went to Allstar and proceeded to score 10 runs on 15 hits as usual! - I really need to stick with HOF because I need realistic stats to play this game. I want to stick with zero pitch speed.

My question is: Do you think power should be lowered with pitch speed at zero and contact at 20? I don't want Hafner hitting 80 homers a year. Are you seeing too many xtra basehits? with these?

[rj9902]

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thanks a lot for these sliders, man. I can now go on and play my franchise with the ny mets. what I love about these is that i'm not striking out like crazy because the contact is maxed out but I'm not always knocking the cover off the ball. the only thing that bothers me is having great ease pitching with the meter, I think I may have to go with classic pitching instead. once again, thanks.

[rickvh02]

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I'm struggling on HOF with zero contact and zero pitch speed (Playmaker's) I went to Allstar and proceeded to score 10 runs on 15 hits as usual! - I really need to stick with HOF because I need realistic stats to play this game. I want to stick with zero pitch speed.

My question is: Do you think power should be lowered with pitch speed at zero and contact at 20? I don't want Hafner hitting 80 homers a year. Are you seeing too many xtra basehits? with these?

i moved pitch speed up to 13 or 14 and my first game against detroit, bonderman only gave up 3 runs on 8 hits. then my next game against the red sox matt clement and bullpen gave up 9 runs on 21 hits. i had every kind of hit imaginable including a 0-2 count homerun with contact swing with belliard. i dont know, cuz i think clement is a better pitcher than bonderman so i guess it just really is a crap shoot with these sliders. i will admit though that against the red sox almost every pitch that i hit was left right over the middle of the plate.

[rspencer86]

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Hey everyone,

Thanks for giving these a try and providing some feedback. Before I address some of the questions and comments, let me update you guys on just a few minor changes I have made to the options I use:

• Fielding: Changed from auto to assisted.
• Throwing: Changed from auto to manual.

The main reason I had used auto fielding to begin with was the problems I was having with outfielders letting line drives go right on by without ever going into a catch animation. After a few games I missed having control of my fielders, so I switched back to "Assisted". Since then I have found ways to minimize those situations where the ball whizzes by (holding the "cutoff man" button, letting up on the left stick, making my fielders do the "sliding stop", and taking different angles).

• Umpire Consistency: Changed from wide to tight.

I got tired of hearing the "questionable call" lines of commentary 10-12 times each game, so I made the switch to Tight consistency. Also helps me draw more walks.

Now on to the feedback:

I really like your theory on bumping contact up and I want to try it. Can you explain what you mean by contact at 20?? Is that 20 clicks to the right when it is completley zeroed out??

Contact at 20 means 20 "clicks" from the left—in other words, maxed out.

'm struggling on HOF with zero contact and zero pitch speed (Playmaker's) I went to Allstar and proceeded to score 10 runs on 15 hits as usual! - I really need to stick with HOF because I need realistic stats to play this game. I want to stick with zero pitch speed.

My question is: Do you think power should be lowered with pitch speed at zero and contact at 20? I don't want Hafner hitting 80 homers a year. Are you seeing too many xtra basehits? with these?

I see a realistic amount of extra basehits with these settings. Despite the zeroed-out arm strength and accuracy, you won't see too many unrealisitc triples—or doubles for that matter.

As for any changes for zero pitch speed, I don't think any changes would be necessary. Go ahead and try these settings for a few games at zero pitch speed and see if you get realistic numbers. If you are tearing the cover off the ball, don't hesitate to lower the power slider a click or two. I think contact needs to remain at 20—seems like the number of soft groundball and flyball outs are severely lacking in this game, but with the high contact/lower power settings, you will see more of the types of outs I described above.

I'm still getting great results with these, and it sounds like some of you are seeing the same. Thanks again for giving these a try.

-Ryan

[I_Love_Piazza]

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I just played a game with the Mets against the Yanks, where I won 11-9, had 16 hits to the Yanks' 11. I think I need to lower contact to around 12 or 15, because I just don't really strike out with it quite so high. Would this be a better move, or should I decrease power? Also there were three triples and one inside the parker for Damon because I played the ball badly and had no chance at throwing him out. So I increased throw power/accuracy to 2 each. I figure that will at least give the better arms in the game a chance to throw people out. Thanks for the sliders!

[jake44np]

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Is anybody else finding these hitting sliders way too easy?
I tried these sliders for 5 games and scored 10 plus runs 4 times!

[Chaos81]

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Guys, keep in mind he is using the Royals.


Ryan, thanks for the sliders. I'll try these out as I've been wanting to start a 'chise with the Royals but haven't found sliders that allow me to do anything.

[NoSkillz50]

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i thought the contact slider didnt effect the ease of actually making contact, but more how good the contact was when you did time it right

[pberardi]

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[quote=rspencer86]Hey everyone,

Thanks for giving these a try and providing some feedback. Before I address some of the questions and comments

I think you're onto something here: Playing on Allstar, I got fed up with too much offense, too much k's, scoring and unrealistic stats. Here's what I did.

I raised contact up to 12 (not 20 as I'm using the Indians)

I lowered power to 4 as my concern was again, too much offense. I did this for both CPU and User. I use pitch speed at zero....fits my skill level.

Results: Offense declined! Game was far more realistic. I played 3 games with the CWS and I won 2 out of 3. The scores were 4-3W, 5-2L and 5-3W. Ironically game 2 in which I lost had 10 hits the most out of 3 games.

CC struckout 10 in game one and went 8 innings. My strikeouts were 5-6 per game and BB's were 2 in every game. ( C'mon CPU throw some balls on 3-2 counts!)

The hit variety was amazing. Every kind of hit imaginable by me and the cpu and the physics of the ball was lifelike. Higher contact enabled me to have some great hitter/pitcher battles...you know the ones where you are 3-2 or 2-2 and you foul off 7 pitches! Also , the CPU worked me hard also. Gone are the rocket propelled bullets up the middle and through the gap. Foul balls are hit hard like this as they should. Best games I've played so far. Even my loss was gratifying as I struckout only 4 times that game.

[Chompy]

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Well I tried out the sliders with a few settings to how I would like them since I haven't played this game in awhile and I have to say, I liked it.

I did strike out 18 times as a team...haha. I never played on Hall of Fame before but I still won the game.

Giants (me) 4 9 0
Cubs (cpu) 1 10 0

Bonds hit a 2 run homerun in the first inning. Then Pedro Feliz went deep twice.

The Cubs scored because someone hit a double or single with 2 runners on.

Personally, these sliders are great for me.

[Millennium]

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[quote=pberardi]

Hey everyone,

Thanks for giving these a try and providing some feedback. Before I address some of the questions and comments

I think you're onto something here: Playing on Allstar, I got fed up with too much offense, too much k's, scoring and unrealistic stats. Here's what I did.

I raised contact up to 12 (not 20 as I'm using the Indians)

I lowered power to 4 as my concern was again, too much offense. I did this for both CPU and User. I use pitch speed at zero....fits my skill level.

Results: Offense declined! Game was far more realistic. I played 3 games with the CWS and I won 2 out of 3. The scores were 4-3W, 5-2L and 5-3W. Ironically game 2 in which I lost had 10 hits the most out of 3 games.

CC struckout 10 in game one and went 8 innings. My strikeouts were 5-6 per game and BB's were 2 in every game. ( C'mon CPU throw some balls on 3-2 counts!)

The hit variety was amazing. Every kind of hit imaginable by me and the cpu and the physics of the ball was lifelike. Higher contact enabled me to have some great hitter/pitcher battles...you know the ones where you are 3-2 or 2-2 and you foul off 7 pitches! Also , the CPU worked me hard also. Gone are the rocket propelled bullets up the middle and through the gap. Foul balls are hit hard like this as they should. Best games I've played so far. Even my loss was gratifying as I struckout only 4 times that game.

Hey PB,

Mind posting your variations to these sliders and what level you play on? I PMed you to no response, but I am very interested in your results...

[JOEdellis]

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I just played a game with the Mets against the Yanks, where I won 11-9, had 16 hits to the Yanks' 11. I think I need to lower contact to around 12 or 15, because I just don't really strike out with it quite so high. Would this be a better move, or should I decrease power? Also there were three triples and one inside the parker for Damon because I played the ball badly and had no chance at throwing him out. So I increased throw power/accuracy to 2 each. I figure that will at least give the better arms in the game a chance to throw people out. Thanks for the sliders!

You had contact at 20 or something? LOL,


I think if you want to get struck out put the speed faster( 12 or 13) and low contact, watch how you cant even hit the ball or get 16 hits for that matter.

[JOEdellis]

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I agree with Royals avy guy, too much power could equal ALOT OF HITS but less contact changes that. Meaning a low contact and high power= steady offense but not too much, too much contact and power low= contact but you wont be scoring runs since it will be weak hits after that contact.