Timing Window is backwards !!!

[DrUrsus]

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all I can tell from the window is that is changes strikeouts. I can bust out 10-15 hits with the window maxed. And with it lowered, I still hit about 9-11 hits, but I had a few more strikeouts.

I think it basically changed what would have been my weak groundouts with blah blah contact, into clean whiffs and a K.

That's what I think too.

[brunnoce]

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i tried taht (maxed timing window) a long time ago...
didnt solve the too much hit problem.

cya next year.

[Jgainsey]

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Hmm.. false alarm maybe? My bats are starting to get hot again. I'm not really seeing a change in k's like some of you, but I'm hitting about the same now as I was before the change. Maybe I hit a little bit of cold spell when I made the change. Oh well..

[bsb13]

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Hmm.. false alarm maybe? My bats are starting to get hot again. I'm not really seeing a change in k's like some of you, but I'm hitting about the same now as I was before the change. Maybe I hit a little bit of cold spell when I made the change. Oh well..

See thats why they need to make sliders on a scale of 0-100 and have them make a NOTICEABLE difference.

[rspencer86]

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See thats why they need to make sliders on a scale of 0-100 and have them make a NOTICEABLE difference.

Yes, we can say this until we are blue in the face but when are the developers going to listen? The only game that I've played that has done this to any capacity is 2K's basketball games. If you put any of the shooting sliders at 0, it becomes virtually impossible to make that kind of shot. At 100, everything goes in.

[bsb13]

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Yes, we can say this until we are blue in the face but when are the developers going to listen? The only game that I've played that has done this to any capacity is 2K's basketball games. If you put any of the shooting sliders at 0, it becomes virtually impossible to make that kind of shot. At 100, everything goes in.

IMO 2k games in general have probably been the best when it comes to sliders. Most 2k games I have played have sliders on a large scale that seem to make a difference.

[jim416]

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i tried taht (maxed timing window) a long time ago...
didnt solve the too much hit problem.

cya next year.

I'm with brunnoce here. Just run the foul ball slider down to zero. If there's a difference, it's not very noticeable to me. I believe the sliders are subtle, at best.

[rspencer86]

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I believe the sliders are subtle, at best.

It's too bad, because this game would be otherwordly if the sliders were potent. As it stands now, some of the game's issues (too many hits, not enough fielding errors, players being too fast, etc.) are tough to fix despite the fact that the game has sliders that should help those things (hit quality, timing window, fly ball error frequency, baserunner speed). They just don't have enough effect.

[jim416]

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It's too bad, because this game would be otherwordly if the sliders were potent. As it stands now, some of the game's issues (too many hits, not enough fielding errors, players being too fast, etc.) are tough to fix despite the fact that the game has sliders that should help those things (hit quality, timing window, fly ball error frequency, baserunner speed). They just don't have enough effect.

Couldn't agree with you more. As much as 2k sucked as a baseball game you could fix the pitchers accuracy so he would hardly throw a strike. You mentioned the fielding errors. That's another slider that doesn't seem to work much. Put throwing errors at ZERO and you'll still see those high throws to first base.

Every gamer has his/her talent when gaming. Sliders SHOULD fix all the problems each gamer has with the game.

[gman2774]

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Agreed. I would love to see effective sliders that make a real difference on each end of the spectrum. However, I tinker with the sliders non-stop now. I can only imagine what I'd be doing with meaningful sliders!! I'd be changing them every pitch. The opportunity to do so would be great....

[bsb13]

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Agreed. I would love to see effective sliders that make a real difference on each end of the spectrum. However, I tinker with the sliders non-stop now. I can only imagine what I'd be doing with meaningful sliders!! I'd be changing them every pitch. The opportunity to do so would be great....

You never know, you might mess with them less if they were more effective. Since they dont really do much now, it doesn't really change much in the game play, and thats why there is a need to keep messing with them.

[mlblover15]

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Well maybe in the next couple of years we will see "self adjusting" sliders ala 2k did, i think this would be a good idea if implamented well, and not as glitchy as 2k did it. maybe this would really affect how things happen...

also everyone dont forget we all have different levels of "hand eye" so those of us with great hand eye will have easeir ability to get contact on bats and those of us with out will still always have timing issues no matter what. so it isnt all the game it never is and never will be. we are all on different levels on sports games period.

[brunnoce]

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You never know, you might mess with them less if they were more effective. Since they dont really do much now, it doesn't really change much in the game play, and thats why there is a need to keep messing with them.

U brougth up a very good point.
Im in the same thought that if the sliders where more influential the less we would need to keep adjusting them. Like Jim said, altough 2k baseball game sux, its sliders works very well..i remeber i would only have to play abou 3 to 5 games and i would be done finding my slider set. Same goes for MVP(not the suckness lol, but the functional sliders)

I just hope the guys over SCEA(Kolbe, etc..) are seeing all of this(im sure someone from SCEA is) and trying to implement this for us next year.

Mlb 08 the show is problaby the best game ever for me(i stated that several times), i got addicted with it like crack. But i just quit playing it a month ago cause i cant stand anymore getting all kinds of hits evan when i put no effort at all when playing. Hits should be rewarding, not cheap and annoying like it is now. The funfactor of the game is totally destroied by this when u look for a high degree of simulation like most of us do.

hitting .420 with mark ellis aint fun or funny.

[davewins]

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Just because I think this game has TREMENDOUS potential I will post my opinion as well. Also I know devs are here and they are reading. A picture says a thousand words.


Now if you were to guess.....what is the result of this contact?? This is a 95mph 2 seam fastball running in on Matt Holliday that he is clearly late on.

Let me just give you the answer. This ball was hit about 325 or so feet down the right field line and about 25 feet to the left of Pesky's Pole for a fly out. At best this ball should of been fouled off without breaking the bat. Look at the trademark on the bat.

The problem I think with the hitting engine is ball placement. If I have a hitter like Holliday with good attributes I can hit any pitch anywhere as long as my timing is mediocre. My timing was late on this pitch of course and at best it should of been fouled back. The hitting engine doesn't take ball placement into consideration. It is just based on timing and as long as your timing is mediocre and you have a decent hitter up you will hit the ball hard to anywhere in the field. To hit that 95mph tailing fastball hard you have to pull it. To pull it you HAVE to swing early and/or bring your hands in to get the bat head on the ball. This is partly the reason why many people are getting too many hits in this game. Also I think along with mediocre timing being "over-rewarded" for hit quality I think placement of the L stick is as well.

What I am essentially hoping for next gen baseball games is realistic batted ball physics. Where if we have a good hitter up at the plate and we (the user) correctly places the left analog stick in the right spot then you would see even though Matt was a little late on this pitch he would bring his hands in and do his best to get the barrell of the bat on the ball.

[Hammerhunker]

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Was the hit parade that so many of you are complaining about this prevalent in last year's game?