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  • DrUrsus
    MVP
    • Apr 2006
    • 2687

    #16
    Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

    Originally posted by NAFBUC
    NO NO for Dr U!

    I am still waiting for my first no hitter. Last year I had a one hitter pitching with the Z man.
    It's really really tough to have a competetive game with the right sliders and still be able to pitch a no hitter, and so far that is what I am getting from these sliders. Just when I think maybe the CPU isn't tough enough, I get pounded 8-1 or something.

    I had a no hitter going with Dempster this year in franchise with 7 outs left, and I literally choked. I pressed the X button to quick on the "backswing" and left a cookie 2 seamer right over the plate. No No no more. I was really in a rhythm too.

    Last night, Dustin Pedroia had one of those no hit savers when he ranged up the middle to snag a grounder and threw to first barely in time. But, that wasn't in the later innings, it was around the 5th or so when I wasn't too concerned about the no hitter yet. I don't usually start thinking about them until maybe the 6th inning if I ever get in the situation (which is rarely).

    I did one hit a team with Zambrano once, but I gave up that hit early in the 3rd or 4th inning.

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    • DrUrsus
      MVP
      • Apr 2006
      • 2687

      #17
      Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

      Originally posted by tree3five
      Nice No No Dr.

      I have played one game so far with these and it was a pitchers duel, low scoring with few hits. I'll play a few more and post some box scores.
      It's nice to have some pitchers duels in this game isn't it? Plus, I have those days still where the scores are really high, especially I notice when the wind is blowing out. I had one game recently where they scored 8 runs on me in one inning . It was unbelievable. But, what was even crazier, is that I cam back with 6 of my own the very next inning, but still lost like 8-7 which was disappointing considering my comeback.
      I hope these are working for you and look forward to seeing some of those box scores. I really want to know if you guys think the CPU is hitting well enough. I do wish they would manufacture more, but I think it's just the way the game is because I have tried other sliders and messed with contact and stuff too on my own.

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      • RogueHominid
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2006
        • 10900

        #18
        Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

        Any idea if these sliders work well with classic pitching?

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        • pbz06
          Banned
          • Oct 2008
          • 1504

          #19
          Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

          Originally posted by The Autumn Wind
          Any idea if these sliders work well with classic pitching?
          I use Classic pitching with great results. I don't see how it wouldn't work with one or the other.

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          • The Chef
            Moderator
            • Sep 2003
            • 13684

            #20
            Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

            How do you like the User Power slider at 7? Ive got it at 6 and it just doesnt seem like the ball carries unless its on a tee basically. Manny can hit them at a decent clip but nobody else can really do much, Im last in doubles and 5th from last in homeruns so my offense just isnt getting extra base hits. With it at 7 are you seeing a good deal of extra base hits while not jumping that fine line and becoming too many? Thanks for the feedback when you get the chance.
            http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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            • pbz06
              Banned
              • Oct 2008
              • 1504

              #21
              Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

              Originally posted by The Chef
              How do you like the User Power slider at 7? Ive got it at 6 and it just doesnt seem like the ball carries unless its on a tee basically. Manny can hit them at a decent clip but nobody else can really do much, Im last in doubles and 5th from last in homeruns so my offense just isnt getting extra base hits. With it at 7 are you seeing a good deal of extra base hits while not jumping that fine line and becoming too many? Thanks for the feedback when you get the chance.
              I actually raised the User Power a bit too, to 8. It's obviously more related to skill, because some people have no trouble hitting doubles and homeruns with Power set to much lower values. But for me, I hit a little offensive rut and needed to bump it because my power numbers were dwindling and my offense became pathetic as I didn't hit the ball with any authority and it all snowballed downhill, heh.

              Once I get more comfortable again I'll probably drop it down back

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              • Howie75
                Commitment to Excellence
                • Jul 2002
                • 1992

                #22
                Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                I have power at 6 and am mostly satisfied. I wouldn't mind seeing more doubles, but homers seem about right.

                I actually went back to back to back with Pence, Berkman and Carlos Lee against the Dodgers (Kuroda). I don't hit many with lesser players though (Michael Bourn just hit #1)

                Like Chef I'm wondering if raising my power slider a little more would help or make it too easy to hit HR.

                Sometimes I think that I should leave well enough alone and let the season play out.

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                • RogueHominid
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 10900

                  #23
                  Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                  I started a separate franchise with FLA to track how these play out. Won the first game vs. WASH 6-3.

                  The sliders played out nicely. Zimmerman took me deep for a 2 run HR in the first, and they got another run in the 2nd, but Nolasco settled down nicely and didn't allow another run, going 7. The bullpen locked it down.

                  On offense, I had a double and a HR, both with Uggla, and only 6 hits for the game, which is fine by me. I did walk 5 times--the CPU just refused to pitch to Hanley, who drew 3 of my 5 walks. I liked the way they came, though. I had to work for them and be disciplined.

                  A couple of things I wonder:
                  1) My control was very good--I threw 70%+ strikes with Nolasco and only walked one. I'm sure as I play better teams with the middle of my rotation I'll have to finesse more, but I hit my spots mostly at will that game.

                  2) Does upping the fouls slider really make more balls down the line land foul rather than fair? I didn't think so, but some have discussed it. If that's the case, maybe putting it to 6 might help, but it's WAAAY to early to tell.

                  All in all the game played great. I didn't think the elevated power slider was cheap at all, even though I've only played with it at default till now. The HR I hit was on a hanging change in the happy zone on a hitter's count, and Uggla put it 370 feet in LF.

                  I really liked the lower pitch speed. It helped judging breaks, balls and strikes, etc. I still K'd 5 times, so it wasn't like I could rake at will. I would have never thought to lower it on my own, but I like the results.

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                  • pbz06
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1504

                    #24
                    Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                    I just played a game against the Yankees (Hughes). I was Kansas City (Greinke). I took about 10 screenshots of the boxscores and pitching charts, but when I copied I accidently hit the "overwrite" and so it only copied over one of the screenshots as the rest were overwritten

                    Here is the boxscore:


                    Anyway, I lost 5-2. I was able to draw a couple walks but Hughes was able to find his groove (as usual against the CPU) once his confidence boosted max. They finished with 64% strike ratio, which was realistic.

                    Greinke didn't have his stuff at all from the beginning. He only lasted 3.0 innings, giving up 7 hits and all 5 runs. My bullpen shut them out the rest of the way. I was disappointed to see another 3-spot by the CPU. I've been tracking this forever now, and it seems like it's a pre-scripted result since in 95% of my games, I give up an automatic 3-spot to the CPU while not being able to stop it no matter what. I kid you not, and then they just stop hitting after they get their 3 runs for the frame. They finished with 15 hits, which is high, because they got A LOT of harmless 2-out singles, which has also been a theme for me. I must give up at least 6 or 7 2-out harmless singles per game.

                    As for me, my offense felt pretty good despite the 2 runs. I was able to work the count decent enough and get them to throw balls. I struck out too many times (10), but a couple of them were on Ball 4, which is a bad habbit of mine. I also seem to strikeout A LOT against relievers. Seems like every game I play, at least one of their relievers ends up striking out the side against me. This time it was Veras. I managed to stroke 3 doubles and 7 total hits. I left a couple guys on base too.

                    Anyway, I'll play another game against a weaker offense (The Yanks seem to be a hitting machine in this game). I always seem to give up around 15 hits to the Yankees.

                    Note: I have pitch speed at 3, and my Power was bumped to 8, as mentioned in an earlier post.

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                    • pbz06
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1504

                      #25
                      Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                      Well, when I said I was going to go against a bad hitting team, I probably shouldn't have picked a team with poor pitching to counter it. I wanted to pick a lethal offense though. I know the Rangers (Millwood) have poor pitching, but I gave up a ridiculous 19 hits and 9 runs to the A's. Don't know what I was doing wrong, they were just RAKING everything. Chalk it up to the Rangers, although 19 hits was tough to swallow. The dreaded 3-spot came up once again, seems like it's just the way the game is coded, because it's now literally 23 of my last 25 games have had a 3-spot on me, hehe. I also seem to have the K bug. Every time I get 2 strikes on me, their pitchers become Greg Maddux and they just paint the corners like no other, it's ridiculous. I struck out 13!!! times, and half of them were looking, on just some filthy borderline breaking balls. When I swung, I had a hole in my bat. I had a couple 3-0 counts where he was totally wild, but came right back with 3 nasty borderline strikes. His total K ratio waslike 55%, so I was working him good (4 walks total), but he became nasty once I was ahead or had 2 strikes on me. It's also so tough to keep the CPU's confidence down (another game code fault). I had a lot of early offense, had 5 runs, 3 walks, and 9 hits through the first couple innings, yet their pitcher (Cahill) was still chugging along with his confidence in the 75%-85% range. I don't know what I'm supposed to do? Meanwhile, my pitcher's confidence just disappears as soon as I give up consecutive hits and a run or two.

                      Next game I need to try using a Roy Halladay or a Jake Peavy or Johan Santana, to see how my pitching does.

                      Anyway, here are the screenshots:









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                      • The Chef
                        Moderator
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 13684

                        #26
                        Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                        Originally posted by Howie75
                        I have power at 6 and am mostly satisfied. I wouldn't mind seeing more doubles, but homers seem about right.

                        I actually went back to back to back with Pence, Berkman and Carlos Lee against the Dodgers (Kuroda). I don't hit many with lesser players though (Michael Bourn just hit #1)

                        Like Chef I'm wondering if raising my power slider a little more would help or make it too easy to hit HR.

                        Sometimes I think that I should leave well enough alone and let the season play out.
                        Before I even address this post I wanted to point out something that is driving me nuts. Has anyone ever noticed that if you foul off a pitch straight back, but up in the air, that it never actually goes back into the crowd? Its driving me ****ing nuts anymore, now if I am on it timing wise but just miss and it goes straight back then thats one thing but if Im under a pitch but it goes straight back it never, ever goes into the crowd.

                        Now onto what you mentioned Howie. Ive got 12 homeruns with Manny through 48 games which puts me at a rough pace of 41 homeruns on the season which is perfect. The problem is that Kemp and Ethier have about 5 each which would put them at about 17 total which is low. I dont expect Ethier or Kemp to hit 45-50 but to be on pace to hit 17 is a joke. Secondly, and this is more of the issue Im having, the lower ranked power hitters are really just not able to put a drive into the ball. Ive started to get more pop from Furcal since moving the power slider to 6 but Figgins, Pierre and Hudson are just not able to drive the ball no matter where the pitch is, hell, same can be said for Russell Martin. Figgins is hitting 0.230, Hudson is at 0.254 and Pierre is at 0.225 all because they cant drive the ball so everytime they hit a ground ball it just has no steam on it to get through the infield which makes it damn near impossible to get much going with them. Martin will hit some pitches hard but always at someone so his average is hovering around 0.200 which is terrible. In all honesty, if it wasnt for Manny, Loney and Ethier my team wouldnt ever win a game.

                        So, for anyone who has been running with user power at 7, or even 8 for that matter, I would be VERY curious to hear what your seeing in terms of power numbers. The description for this slider leads me to believe that it wont necessarily increase homeruns but will allow for balls to travel faster which is exactly what I need. Any and all feedback is welcome.
                        http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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                        • pbz06
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1504

                          #27
                          Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                          Originally posted by The Chef
                          Before I even address this post I wanted to point out something that is driving me nuts. Has anyone ever noticed that if you foul off a pitch straight back, but up in the air, that it never actually goes back into the crowd? Its driving me ****ing nuts anymore, now if I am on it timing wise but just miss and it goes straight back then thats one thing but if Im under a pitch but it goes straight back it never, ever goes into the crowd.

                          Now onto what you mentioned Howie. Ive got 12 homeruns with Manny through 48 games which puts me at a rough pace of 41 homeruns on the season which is perfect. The problem is that Kemp and Ethier have about 5 each which would put them at about 17 total which is low. I dont expect Ethier or Kemp to hit 45-50 but to be on pace to hit 17 is a joke. Secondly, and this is more of the issue Im having, the lower ranked power hitters are really just not able to put a drive into the ball. Ive started to get more pop from Furcal since moving the power slider to 6 but Figgins, Pierre and Hudson are just not able to drive the ball no matter where the pitch is, hell, same can be said for Russell Martin. Figgins is hitting 0.230, Hudson is at 0.254 and Pierre is at 0.225 all because they cant drive the ball so everytime they hit a ground ball it just has no steam on it to get through the infield which makes it damn near impossible to get much going with them. Martin will hit some pitches hard but always at someone so his average is hovering around 0.200 which is terrible. In all honesty, if it wasnt for Manny, Loney and Ethier my team wouldnt ever win a game.

                          So, for anyone who has been running with user power at 7, or even 8 for that matter, I would be VERY curious to hear what your seeing in terms of power numbers. The description for this slider leads me to believe that it wont necessarily increase homeruns but will allow for balls to travel faster which is exactly what I need. Any and all feedback is welcome.
                          I had my power at 8 for the last 2 games (posted above). I haven't played with the Dodgers or Angels so I can't tell you about Furcal and Figgins. But I did smoke a ball up the middle with Aviles, and Callaspo lined one between the 2nd baseman and SS. DeJesus also smoked an opposite field liner for a double, but he has a bit more power than Furcal and Figgins.

                          In my Rangers game, well, they don't really have any weak slap hitters. My offense felt powerful with Kinsler, Young, Davis, and Blalock hitting scorchers.

                          I think it should work better for you. Like you said, it doesn't necessarily give you more homeruns, because if you time it well you will hit it out regardless if your power is at 8 or at 5. It should give you a little more oomph on your hits.

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                          • The Chef
                            Moderator
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 13684

                            #28
                            Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                            Originally posted by pbz06
                            I had my power at 8 for the last 2 games (posted above). I haven't played with the Dodgers or Angels so I can't tell you about Furcal and Figgins. But I did smoke a ball up the middle with Aviles, and Callaspo lined one between the 2nd baseman and SS. DeJesus also smoked an opposite field liner for a double, but he has a bit more power than Furcal and Figgins.

                            In my Rangers game, well, they don't really have any weak slap hitters. My offense felt powerful with Kinsler, Young, Davis, and Blalock hitting scorchers.

                            I think it should work better for you. Like you said, it doesn't necessarily give you more homeruns, because if you time it well you will hit it out regardless if your power is at 8 or at 5. It should give you a little more oomph on your hits.
                            Thanks bro, I will push it to 7 and see how that works and then raise from there if I think it needs it. Its just terribly difficult to hit with guys that have **** for power so it really ruins things since it makes slap hitters completely worthless.
                            http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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                            • pbz06
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1504

                              #29
                              Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                              Originally posted by The Chef
                              Thanks bro, I will push it to 7 and see how that works and then raise from there if I think it needs it. Its just terribly difficult to hit with guys that have **** for power so it really ruins things since it makes slap hitters completely worthless.
                              Yea, I noticed that Season/Franchise for some reason is A LOT harder to hit than it is Exhibition.

                              Through 10 games with the Dodgers in my season, my team hitting has been a pathetic .205. I'm last in slugging, homeruns, runs, and doubles, lol.

                              Ethier has been godly for me, he's the only one hitting .300 with any sort of power numbers. Furcal, Hudson, Pierre are all in the Mendoza range, while with Manny I struggle because I try to hit homeruns too much. Everybody else is in the .230-.250 range.

                              Amazingly, I'm 6-4 because my pitching has been outstanding. My team ERA is a hair over 3.00 and towards the top in most categories. I basically have been getting Quality Starts each time out.

                              In Exhibition games, my offense feels fine overall. I don't seem to have too much trouble scoring 4-5 runs per game, with 2 or 3 doubles and a homerun per game average. I'm thinking of upping my Contact and Solid Hits to 6 too and trying Season again with otherwise the same sliders as this thread....just to see my offense be a little more deadly. I think my pitching will even out a tiny bit and not be "that good", because in a lot of those games, I managed to escape a lot of jams other than that one inning that seems to always get me. We'll see.
                              Last edited by pbz06; 05-08-2009, 06:51 AM.

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                              • RAZRr1275
                                All Star
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 9918

                                #30
                                Re: DrUrsus All-Star Sliders to draw walks, be selective & CPU plays "fairer" game

                                Hey pbz what sliders are you using now?
                                My latest project - Madden 12 http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043231648

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