TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

[TripleThreat1973]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

I tweak a handful of sliders just 1 click either direction.....and it's a lack of skill/experience?

Not referring to you specifically.

I picked 15 games as a sample size for 2 reasons: [1] It's 3 times through the pitching rotation and [2] It's usually 5 series of games, most often 1 series against a good team, one against a poor team, and 3 series against average teams.

You don;t want to over-compensate too much on games versus good or bad teams/pitchers, and you always want to take into account the team you are playing with.

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

Not referring to you specifically.

I picked 15 games as a sample size for 2 reasons: [1] It's 3 times through the pitching rotation and [2] It's usually 5 series of games, most often 1 series against a good team, one against a poor team, and 3 series against average teams.

You don;t want to over-compensate too much on games versus good or bad teams/pitchers, and you always want to take into account the team you are playing with.

I agree with everything you said

Sorry about the other comment - thought you were referring to me directly

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

Chicago Cubs(CPU) 5 @ Boston Red Sox(ME) 4

Chicago 5 runs / 9 hits / 0 errors
Boston 4 runs / 12 hits / 1 errors

CHICAGO
2B: Hoffpauir
HR: Lee
RBI: Hoffpauir(2), Lee, Ramirez, Byrd

BOSTON
2B: Beltre
HR: Martinez, Beltre
RBI: Martinez, Beltre(2), Lowell

CHICAGO
Zambrano(W)....6.1ip 9h 2er 2K 0bb
Gray................0.2ip 1h 0er 1K 1bb
Guzman............1.0ip 0h 0er 0K 0bb
Marmol(SV).......1.0ip 2h 2er 1K 0bb
BOSTON
Lackey(L)..........6.0ip 6h 4er 5K 1bb
Delcarmen.........1.1ip 2h 1er 3K 0bb
Bard.................1.0ip 0h 0er 1K 0bb
Okajima............0.2ip 1h 0er 0K 0bb

[ParisB]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

I'm not singling you out TNKNGM, but people throw around the term "realism" and "perfect" sliders way too much around here. They're just tuners and they cater to peoples' different styles.

You can literally just make up sliders and adjust them randomly, and still see "perfect" statistical games and chalk them up to the slider tweaks. Unfortunately baseball is a game of high variance and you need large sample sizes. Even in real life, a player (or team) can have a torrid month or even two months, while be below average for the remainder of the season.

Just last year, there were 40 different sets with all kinds of sliders varying from -10 to +10 adjustments. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

With being able to adjust difficulty settings separately between hitting and pitching, i think it will help A LOT of people.

My suggestion for this thread, we can start tweaking GLOBAL sliders, and tweak things that may seem obvious from a global standpoint (like, are outfielders too fast? their arms too strong?), rather than individual skill dependent tweaks that vary from user to user.

From there, maybe start tweaking things such as Fouls etc.

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

I'm not singling you out TNKNGM, but people throw around the term "realism" and "perfect" sliders way too much around here. They're just tuners and they cater to peoples' different styles.

You can literally just make up sliders and adjust them randomly, and still see "perfect" statistical games and chalk them up to the slider tweaks. Unfortunately baseball is a game of high variance and you need large sample sizes. Even in real life, a player (or team) can have a torrid month or even two months, while be below average for the remainder of the season.

Just last year, there were 40 different sets with all kinds of sliders varying from -10 to +10 adjustments. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

With being able to adjust difficulty settings separately between hitting and pitching, i think it will help A LOT of people.

My suggestion for this thread, we can start tweaking GLOBAL sliders, and tweak things that may seem obvious from a global standpoint (like, are outfielders too fast? their arms too strong?), rather than individual skill dependent tweaks that vary from user to user.

From there, maybe start tweaking things such as Fouls etc.

I know what you're saying and I get it

I use the term realism because I want the end result to produce a realistic feel. Like how fast the fielders move, etc.

[jeeves]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

Phyco's Perfect Slider Set 1.4 was awesome last year and they actually work quite well for a base set for 10'. I thought that the outfielders were too quick, the fielders needed added reaction speed, and better human pitching control. All were part of Phyco's 09' set so I incorportated the exact set to 10' and I have been getting great results! Others should try.

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

Playing Boston(ME) @ LA Angels(CPU)

Results to follow

[ParisB]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

I know what you're saying and I get it

I use the term realism because I want the end result to produce a realistic feel. Like how fast the fielders move, etc.

Cool Cool...well let's call in sick tomorrow and start playing and testing

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

Cool Cool...well let's call in sick tomorrow and start playing and testing

That's what I'm doing today......made a couple very minor tweaks to fielding speed and am loving what I'm seeing so far in the game i'm playing now

[stealyerface]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

Psycho's set sold me last year, and the one thing I did do after just three games this year was bring the Fielder Speed and Reaction Speed down 1 click each to "4".

Playing with the Braodcast Cam I was noticing that my fielders felt too jumpy, and their sensitivity with regards to the controller was just too twitchy.

Having these ticked down a notch seemed to make it feel a bit more natural, and I still am loving that I have to be very aware of where my fellas are positioned.

I am already seeing more balls over the head of the outfielders, and the gappers are much more suited to a SIM style of play.

I find my self replaying the hits and the outs, and asking myself if it seems like the result looked like it ought to in the real game.

So far so good.

syf

[HitDoctor]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

OK - These are extremely preliminary adjustments that I have made. I will be tweaking and am looking for feedback to try and throw my hat in the ring for one of the top sets of sliders this year.

Gameplay Options
PROFILE
Hitting Difficulty: All-Star
Pitching Difficulty: All-Star
Pitch Interface: Meter
Guess Pitch: Off
Baserunning Control: Default
Auto Baserunning: Assist
Batting View: Catcher
Pitching View: Catcher
Field View Offense: Medium or Broadcast (User Preference)
Field View Defense: Medium or Broadcast (User Preference)
HR Celebration Camera: OFF (User Preference Though)
Swing Influence: ON
Pitch Confidence: ON
Fielding Assist: Manual
Auto Throwing: OFF
Auto Sliding: Assist
Pitch Callout: Full or Simple (User Preference)
Pitching Ball Marker: Fade
Throw Meter: No Feedback or On (User Preference)
Plate Coverage Indicator: OFF
Swing/Pitch Indicator: OFF
Runner Windows: ON
Strike Zone: OFF
Hot Zones: OFF
Tag Up Indicator: ON
Catch Region Indicator: ON
Catch Position Indicator: ON
Rob HR Indicator: OFF
Vibration: ON
Warm Up Pitchers: OFF (You need to warm Pitchers in the Bullpen)

Gameplay Options
GLOBAL
Auto Save/Load: ON
Injuries: ON
Warm Up Pitchers: OFF (You must warm pitchers in the bullpen)
Tutorial Tips: OFF
Pitch Delay: Slower
Hitting Difficulty: All-Star
Pitching Difficulty: All-Star
Pitch Interface: Meter
Guess Pitch: OFF
Baserunning Controls: Default
Auto Baserunning: Assist
Batting & Pitching View: Catcher
Fielding View Offense & Defense: Medium or Broadcast (User Pref.)
HR Derby Camera: Broadcast
HR Celebration Camera: OFF
Swing Influence: ON
Pitch Confidence: ON
Fielding Assist: Manual
Auto Throwing: OFF
Auto Sliding: Assist
Pitch Callout: Full or Limited (User Pref.)
Pitching Ball Marker: Fade
Throw Meter: No Feedback or On (User Pref.)
Plate Coverage Indicator: OFF
Swin/Pitch Info: OFF
Runner Windows: ON
Strike Zone: OFF
Hot Zones: OFF
Tag Up Indicator: ON
Catch Region Indicator: ON
Catch Position Indicator: ON
Rob HR Indicator: OFF
Vibration: ON
API: Default
Umpire Balls/Strikes: Variable
Check Swing Appeals: ON
Ejections: ON
Batter Walkup: ON
Presentation Mode: Real Time w/ Replay or Broadcast (User Pref.)
Game Tips: OFF
Innings: 9
Designated Hitter: Auto

[I]SLIDERS[/I] (All Sliders are based on 0-10 value)
USER
Contact: 5
Power: 5
Timing: 5
Fouls: 5
Solid Hits: 4
Starter Stamina: 5
Reliever Stamina: 5
Pitcher Control: 6
Pitcher Consistency: 5

CPU
Contact: 5
Power: 5
Timing: 5
Fouls: 5
Solid Hits: 4
Starter Stamina: 5
Reliever Stamina: 5
Pitcher Control: 5
Pitcher Consistency: 5
Strike Frequency: 4
Manager Hook: 5
Pickoffs: 4

GLOBAL
Pitch Speed: 4
Fielding Errors: 6
Throwing Errors: 5
Fielder Run Speed: 4
Fielder Reaction: 4
Fielder Arm Strength: 4
Baserunner Speed: 5
Baserunner Steal Ability: 5
Baserunner Steal Frequency: 5
Wind: 5
Injury Frequency: 5

Are these uploaded?

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

Boston 5 @ Los Angeles 7

Great game - Boston jumped out to a 5-0 lead, Los Angeles then scored 7 unanswered runs

Boston 5 runs / 9 hits / 0 errors
Los Angeles 7 runs / 13 hits / 1 errors

BOSTON
2B: Youkilis
3B: Drew
HR: Youkilis, Cameron
RBI: Martinez, Youkilis(2), Cameron(2)

LOS ANGELES
2B: Matsui(2), Rivera(2), Napoli
HR: Hunter
RBI: Aybar, Hunter, Rivera(2), Kendrick(2), Napoli

BOSTON
Beckett.............5ip 9h 5er 3K 2bb
Bonser.............. 1ip 0h 0er 1K 0bb
Okajima.............1ip 1h 1er 0k 1bb
Ramirez.............1ip 3h 1er 1k 2bb
LOS ANGELES
Pineiro...............5ip 8h 5er 3K 0bb
Bulger................2ip 0h 0er 4k 1bb
Fuentes.............1ip 1h 0er 1k 0bb

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

Made a couple adjustments in the first post......looked at PsychoBulks set from last year which is what I used last year and they were great.

I brought the fielder speed down close to where his set was and increased the reaction time and was very happy with the feel and result.

Will play more later - if somebody tries these - please post some results

I will try to upload the current set right now to the Vault so you can just grab them online w/ the PS3 instead of manually entering them

[jeeves]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

Made a couple adjustments in the first post......looked at PsychoBulks set from last year which is what I used last year and they were great.

I brought the fielder speed down close to where his set was and increased the reaction time and was very happy with the feel and result.

Will play more later - if somebody tries these - please post some results

I will try to upload the current set right now to the Vault so you can just grab them online w/ the PS3 instead of manually entering them

told ya! Yeah but what kinda worries me is that most of the "slider guys" are stating that they don't see big slider changes. If I can take 1.4 and have great results I believe that this game definatly needs slider tweaking.

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNKNGM MLB10 All-Star Realism Sliders

told ya! Yeah but what kinda worries me is that most of the "slider guys" are stating that they don't see big slider changes. If I can take 1.4 and have great results I believe that this game definatly needs slider tweaking.

Would you mind downloading the set I just put up on the vault and playing some games and providing feedback.

Maybe we can work together on these?