If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

[dorismary]

Hi Guys ,
Im posting this as Im really enjoying MLB 10 The Show on Veteran Level this year as its can be made to play much harder and smarter this year than 09 as the sliders have better range.

I noticed alot of guys getting frustrated or becoming tweak o holics playing on allstar level so maybe this will help if your on the fence between the two levels .

Now I know many gamers may have a ego thing about playing on Veteran level but I found by making Veteran sliders tougher I can actually make it play harder and more realistic and enjoyable than on Allstar and with out the tougher CPU AI higher levels have.

I actually lose more on Veteran with these unique sliders than I do on allstar as I can win 70 to 80% on allstar , I can even win on legend at times but the games just arent as enjoyable .

Most of us play games to relax and get away and really dont wanna throw their controller late in games plus as a slider based gamer and I feel Veteran level sliders are more stable, workable if I move a click I really notice it and overall I get a greater variance in scores , alot more random with dead on statistics.

So if you are tweaked out or frustrated and just wanna play games again give Veteran a try .

Im basically using Titus' Veteran Sliders with my own special tweaks which I can PM depending on individual needs but I do play with assited fielder and with both errors at 8/8 and Hu contact down 1 and cpu contact up 1.
PS When you see these sliders settings youll shake your head like me but they really are well thought out and now Im tweak free 2 months Thanks Titus'.
I hope this helps TC Anth

Edit : 6-7-10 I promised a few when I had time I would post the exact way how I play On Veteran they are also on Sportsconnect so just sort under date 6-7-10.
Basically Myself and Titus have the same beliefs and success on Veteran level but we play a little bit different as I never use guess pitch and I play assisted fielding , we also having different settings on STEALING in this game .
We both agree by making Veteran level play tougher instead of trying to dumb down allstar we can avoid the way to smart Cpu AI that frustrates many on allstar and higher levels .
Well heres how I play so if you try them for best results play them exactly as is for a bunch of games as they go full circle !
PROFILE
Hitting Dif Veteran
Pitching Dif Veteran
Pitching Interface Classic
Guess Pitch Off
Baserunning Controls Default
Auto Baserunning Auto
Batting View Offset
Pitching View Offset
Fielding View Off Broadcast
Fielding View Def Broadcast
HR Celebration Cam ON
Swing Influence OFF
Pitch Con ON
Fielding Assist ASSIST
Auto Throwing OFF
Pitch Callout FULL
Pitcher Ball Marker FADE
Throwing Meter OFF
Plate Cov Indicator OFF
Swing/Pitch Indicator ON
Runner Windows ON
Strike Zone ON
Hot Zones ON
Tag Up Indicator ON
Catch Region Ind ON
Catch Position Ind ON
Rob HR Ind ON
Warm up Pitchers ON

MY SLIDERS
USER
Contact 3 , 2 if you want more off a challenge
Power 10
Timing 10
Fouls 0
Solid Hits 9
Starter Stamina 6
Reliever Stamina 6
Pitcher Control 1
Pitcher Consistency 7

CPU
Contact 3 , 4 if you want more CPU attack
Power 5
Timing 5
Fouls 0
Solid Hits 0
Starter Stamina 6
Reliever Stamina 0
Pitcher Control 5
Pitcher Consistency 7
Strike Frequency 0
Manager Hook 6
Pickoffs 0

GLOBAL

I really hope next year SCEA can add seperate HU/CPU GLOBAL sliders as it would than be easier to blend and balance gameplay as I find the CPU OF too fast and Phoenix pointed out the CPU baserunning is also slower than Human .

Pitch Speed 0 , a great fix to make batting harder other than lowering hu contact ect.
Fielding Errors 8 , I like to see one or two every game a bit high on average but its so well done at 8 but feel free to lower to 7.
Throwing Errors 8 seems perfect as I see them every other game on average .
Field Run Speed 0
Fielder Reaction 6
Fielder Arm Strength 5 *
Baserunner Speed 6*
Baserunner Steal Ability 6*
Baserunner Steal Frequency 10*
Wind 3
Injury Frequency USER CHOICE

* Basestealing : The tweaks I made to those sliders * give me the PERFECT blend and I no longer even have to take leadoffs to keep it even for both me and the Cpu plus raising baserunning speed and Fielder arm strength +1 really tightens up the game .
As always let me know what you think after a bunch of games and they are on SPORTSCONNECT UNDER
DM VETERAN NO CPU BOOST
sort by dated 6-7

[dorismary]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

Hi ,
soonermagic75 , trusaleen1 and heroesandvillians I posted my version on sportsconnect as I promised for you underTITUS VET DORISMARY VERSION

To find them just sort them by date , I play with auto baserunning , assisted fielding and classic pitch, no meter fld throw .
I also use broadcast View and Bat and Pitch with Offset view.
API On, Umpire balls and strikes Off and strike zone and Hot zones on .
If you want a them a bit tougher try lowering Hu contact 1 and raise cpu contact 1 .
So feel free to post your thoughts or questions here or in Titus Slider thread .

[grgmths1433]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

Hi ,
soonermagic75 , trusaleen1 and heroesandvillians I posted my version on sportsconnect as I promised for you underTITUS VET DORISMARY VERSION

To find them just sort them by date , I play with auto baserunning , assisted fielding and classic pitch, no meter fld throw .
I also use broadcast View and Bat and Pitch with Offset view.
API On, Umpire balls and strikes Off and strike zone and Hot zones on .
If you want a them a bit tougher try lowering Hu contact 1 and raise cpu contact 1 .
So feel free to post your thoughts or questions here or in Titus Slider thread .

i must be blind because i dont see them.

[trusaleen1]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

I found them, thanks, didnt get a chance to play them. Hoepfully this weekend

[dorismary]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

I found them, thanks, didnt get a chance to play them. Hoepfully this weekend

Remember try playing a bunch of games before judging as they go full circle .
Try playing a good teams , bad teams and same with pitchers as you can dominate with Halladay and struggle with 5th starters just like you should .
If you have any questions feel free as I can try to make it better for your skill level with a few simple tweaks .

[grgmths1433]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

hey dorismary,man you wasnt lying the gameplay feels smoother to me or is it just me thinking that.hey bro i think you are a very much underdog here at OS.a peeps this dorismary dude got major skillz.dont sleep on his work.every time he drops a file i running to it.i am not knocking anyone at all i just giving this dude his major props.

[dorismary]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

hey dorismary,man you wasnt lying the gameplay feels smoother to me or is it just me thinking that.hey bro i think you are a very much underdog here at OS.a peeps this dorismary dude got major skillz.dont sleep on his work.every time he drops a file i running to it.i am not knocking anyone at all i just giving this dude his major props.

Thanks but these are Titus' baby with a little bit of my imput and personal tweaks as we do play the game a bit differently.
Im currently investigating steal ability slider as i heard a rumor its reversed ? I have it on 8 and I have little success .

Hopefully more people who are having trouble on allstar will give these a shot and thanks for you humbling comments as I've been told im a aquired taste .

[grgmths1433]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

Thanks but these are Titus' baby with a little bit of my imput and personal tweaks as we do play the game differently.
Im currently investigating steal ability slider as i heard a rumor its reversed ? I have it on 8 and I have little success .

i think stealing is all the right timing.i had jose guillen steal base in my last game.hr dont have good speed i would say average..before the pitcher lift his foot to go home thats the key.i like where its at so for.i didnt change anything on ur set.so u got stealing on 8.

[dorismary]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

i think stealing is all the right timing.i had jose guillen steal base in my last game.hr dont have good speed i would say average..before the pitcher lift his foot to go home thats the key.i like where its at so for.i didnt change anything on ur set.so u got stealing on 8.

Yeah your version has 7 but im gonna check it out now if its true or false and yes timing and pitcher and pitch delivery play big part as I can steal with avg guys at good times like you did with Guillen but it seemed to get worse on 8 so I will try it on 4 .

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

A few questions for settings i've never used:

With auto baserunning, will my baserunners steal without me pressing L2? I know they will if I press it, but could they if I don't? I know that they do lead on their own.

I've always played with hot zones off. Will this give me more or less of an advantage with hot zones on? Same question for the cpu.

I've also never used offset hitting. Is this just your preference or will this make hitting harder/easier?

Again, I've always had ump balls/stk on. I sort of like the inconsistency.

Sorry for the questions, I'd just like some of this explained...or you can just tell me to shut up and I'll try it the way you have it! LOL

[Phoenixmgs]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

Im currently investigating steal ability slider as i heard a rumor its reversed ? I have it on 8 and I have little success .

The steal ability slider is reversed. And, the CPU is slower than you when it comes to stealing for some reason. You'll want to set it so when you don't extend your lead, you can steal realistically. Even then, you have to lower your catchers' arm strength by about 15-20.

[coreyhartsdaughter]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

The steal ability slider is reversed. And, the CPU is slower than you when it comes to stealing for some reason. You'll want to set it so when you don't extend your lead, you can steal realistically. Even then, you have to lower your catchers' arm strength by about 15-20.

This has never been proven. In fact, the originator of this theory had the Steal Frequency maxed when testing, which served to offset the lowering Ability slider.

In fact, read the description of Steal Frequency:

Adjust the frequency of steals by a baserunner, as well as their ability to steal repeatedly with only a small success rate reduction. Shift to the right to increase the frequency of steals and reduce the penalty for repeated steals.

Having this raised not only makes the CPU steal more, but after (both CPU and HUM) players X steals once, allows players Y and Z to steal easier. (whereas with this lower their is actually a penalty the more you steal.)

[Ljm623]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

Ok as i said many times i have been using All-Star Default for well over 100 games, but i am game and will try many other versions.. i gave you re sliders that i downloaded from the vault today a go and i had a 10-8 win with the DBacks(me) and the Computer Padres.. there was a total of 29 hits and 18 runs.. i can't really judge to much off of just 1 game, i will say the game was fun especially in my big offensive 8th inning scoring 6.. i was wondering do you think maybe giving the user the same sliders for power, timing, contact, and solid hits as you have for the computer? just curious why the human user sliders for power, contact. solid hits, are higher then the computer and some you have maxed out at 10 for human .. anyway here is the box score, please excuse the lousy image, i used a crappy web cam for this shot


i'm still gonna play at least 30 games with these sliders to really see where i stand with them.. at first, having 0 for pitch speed was throwing me off a little in my timing, cause i'm used to default and when the fastballs were first coming in i was way out in front, and the breaking pitches had me even more out in front, that i liked, cause i had to adjust a little and sit back a little more.. i will say that was a very fun game

[dorismary]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

A few questions for settings i've never used:

With auto baserunning, will my baserunners steal without me pressing L2? I know they will if I press it, but could they if I don't? I know that they do lead on their own.
Yes just perfect IMO with steal frequency at 10 ,just like in real ball when pierre or reyes get on be ready .
You will also see alot more hit n run situations .

I've always played with hot zones off. Will this give me more or less of an advantage with hot zones on? Same question for the cpu.

Visually it fades , but on Vet with Titus' I dont use guess pitch like him so to see where to attack both hitting and pitching is very import to me almost like a real scouting report .

I've also never used offset hitting. Is this just your preference or will this make hitting harder/easier?
More Visually appealing then just having a backstop view plus with offset view IMO players arent flat their on a angle plus you cant see 3/4 field just beautiful .

Again, I've always had ump balls/stk on. I sort of like the inconsistency.
Totally your option but I like consistency fair and square and I find late in games the cpu gets a bit of an advantage on close calls . Oh and even with umps OFF theres still alot of on the fence calls .

Sorry for the questions, I'd just like some of this explained...or you can just tell me to shut up and I'll try it the way you have it! LOL

Never ,
im not that type of person and I dont claim to be a expert as we all have different needs to enjoying this game

[dorismary]

Re: If your having trouble on allstar GIVE VETERAN a TRY

The steal ability slider is reversed. And, the CPU is slower than you when it comes to stealing for some reason. You'll want to set it so when you don't extend your lead, you can steal realistically. Even then, you have to lower your catchers' arm strength by about 15-20.

Ok yeah I noticed something like this because even when I maxed it one way or the other decent basestealers still got gunned down ?
Not really wanting to lower all catchers arms
Didnt seem to have a steal issue intil I raised Steal frequency maybe theres a connection that raises Awarness with it being on 10 ?

This has never been proven. In fact, the originator of this theory had the Steal Frequency maxed when testing, which served to offset the lowering Ability slider.

In fact, read the description of Steal Frequency:

Adjust the frequency of steals by a baserunner, as well as their ability to steal repeatedly with only a small success rate reduction. Shift to the right to increase the frequency of steals and reduce the penalty for repeated steals.

Having this raised not only makes the CPU steal more, but after (both CPU and HUM) players X steals once, allows players Y and Z to steal easier. (whereas with this lower their is actually a penalty the more you steal.)

Dont know what to think and I may be wrong but I didnt notice to much of a issue intil I raised frequency to 10 and Titus has no issues and hes at 7 .
I really like it at 10 ( as real baserunners get aggressive and i see alot more hit n runs) so im gonna try 3/10 for steal ability and Frequency .
Eitherway thanks for the imput guys .