Itbeme23 Sim Sliders - Veteran Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching & OCD Accurate Strike %!

[The Kid 24]

Re: Itbeme23 Sim Sliders - Veteran Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching & OCD Accurate Strik

Itbeme... I'm thinking of moving up to HOF for pitching (AS been getting to easy recently)... What changes do you think I need to make for HOF pitching?

[awffltony77]

Re: Itbeme23 Sim Sliders - Veteran Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching & OCD Accurate Strik

Yea, where did this TC go????? I have some questions, too......

[awffltony77]

Re: Itbeme23 Sim Sliders - Veteran Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching & OCD Accurate Strik

Well, how about anyone else? I have played nearly 100 games on both this set and A&S, and I am in the camp of these sliders for a number of reasons, but namely because the CPU tags the crap out of my pitchers often enough..... which for what ever reason, didn't happen for me this year with A&S.
However, he put a bit more reason behind altering his sliders for quick count (in which I love too much to ever stop now). Anyone else have any solid theories they use with these sliders and QC???? Or anything else anyone wants to talk about here? I find it odd this thread stopped on a dime, when these are VERY quality sliders.......

[twinsfan34]

Re: Itbeme23 Sim Sliders - Veteran Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching & OCD Accurate Strik

[quote=itbeme23;2046093720]ITBEME23’S SIM SLIDERS - FINAL 5.9.14

Batting and Baserunning:

Hitting Difficulty: Veteran
Hitting Interface Timing
Hitting View: Catcher Default
Button Interface: Classic
Guess Pitch: Off
Baserunner Interface: Default
Bassrunning Decisions: Assist
Sliding Decisions: Assist
Runner Window: On

Pitching:

Pitching Difficulty: All-Star
Pitching Interface: Classic
Pitching View: Broadcast
Pitching Ball Marker: Fade
Pitch Callout: Full
Pitch Confidence: On
Pitch Delay: Normal
API: On

Fielding
Throwing Interface: Pure Analog (User-Preference)
Throwing Meter: Off
Throwing Difficulty: All-Star (non applicable with meter off)
Throwing Decision: Off
Throw Cancelling: On
Fielding Decision: Auto
Defensive Shift: Auto
All Indicators Off
Fielding View Offense: Broadcast
Fielding View Defense: Broadcast

General

Strike Zone: Off
Hot Zones: Off
Swing/Pitch Analysis: On
Balks: On
Warm Up Pitchers: On
Umpire Balls and Strikes: Variable
Umpire Close Plays: On
Check Swing Appeals: On
Injuries: On
Ejections: On

Human Sliders:

Human Contact - 3
Human Power -3
Human Timing -5
Stride Difficulty - 5
Human Foul Frequency - 5
Human Solid Hits - 6
Human Starter Stamina - 4
Human Reliever Stamina - 2
Human Pitcher Control - 2
Human Pitcher Consistency - 2

CPU Sliders:

CPU Contact - 3
CPU Power - 5
CPU Timing - 5
CPU Foul Frequency - 6
CPU Solid Hits - 7
CPU Starter Stamina - 4
CPU Reliever Stamina - 2
CPU Pitcher Control - 2
CPU Pitcher Consistency - 2
CPU Strike Frequency - 0
CPU Manager Hook - 3
CPU Pickoffs - 4

Pitch Speed - 8 (User-Preference)
Fielding Errors - 6
Throwing Errors - 5
Fielder Run Speed - 4
Fielder Reaction - 6
Fielder Arm Strength - 4
Baserunner Speed - 5
Baserunner Steal Ability - 8
Baserunner Steal Frequency - 5
Wind - 5
Injuries - 8

Human Slider Explanations:

In my testing, I’ve found that the hitting sliders for both the User and CPU are different from last year. With Veteran,some of the hitting sliders need to be toned down for a realistic/simulation experience. However, unlike last year, Iactually RAISED Solid Hits in order to balance out the offense. In my testing (which stands at 25 games, so far), I found that the User offense greatly suffers with Solid Hits at anything lower than default.

Contact– 3

The main reason this slider is at 3 is to help with the CPU strikeout rates. I found that anything above 3 leads to very few user strikeouts. I don’t like striking out by any means, but it’s a necessary part of baseball, especially if you’re shooting for a sim experience. User strikeout rate is greatly affected by User skill, but I’m averaging anywhere from 5-8 strikeouts per game, depending on the CPU pitcher.

Power– 3

With Power and Solid Hits at default, every ball was jumping off the bat, resulting in many more extra base hits and HRs than there should be per game. Power at 3 is providing extra base hits at arealistic clip. There will be games where you’re spraying singles all over the yard, and there will be games where your offense explodes.

Timing– 5

I haven’t found a reason to change Human Timing from default.

Stride Difficulty – 5 (Non-Applicable due to not using Analog Hitting Interface)

Foul Frequency – 5

My goal in lowering User Contact was to increase the CPU strikeout rate. However, lowering the Contact while having User Foul Frequency below default (in my early testing, I had it at 3 or 4)consistently resulted in over 10 user strikeouts per game, regardless of the CPU pitcher. With Foul Frequency at 5, I’ve found that the CPU still strikes out the User at a realistic clip, and the User will still occasionally have those 10 pitch battles with the CPU pitcher.

Solid Hits – 6

In all the years I’ve been playing this game, I’ve found that this slider has the most influence on hit totals and batting average. With the decrease in User Power and the small increase in Solid Hits, I’ve been seeing realistic averages in hits and batting average. I’ve had games where I’ve only had a few singles, and I’ve had games where my offense has exploded for double-digit hits AND runs. I’m seeing areally good variety right now.

Starter Stamina – 4
Releiver Stamina – 2

The slider that I placed more focus on was Starter Stamina. At default, I had two different pitchers throw complete games against me with over 130 pitches (I think Jared Weaver threw 142 pitches in 9 innings). To me, that’s just not realistic. By decreasing Starter Stamina to 4, I’ve found that starting pitchers tend to get tired around the 90-95 pitch range. Once the starter is in the 100-105 pitch range, then the manager pulls him, unless he's on a roll with his confidence super high. That is pretty close to what happens in real life.

Reliever Stamina is the same as my set from last year. With the slider at 2, middle relievers are able to throw multiple innings, if they have a good outing. Most of the time, it’s a maximum of two innings; but on occasion, I’ve seen the CPU managers leave the reliever in for a third inning.

Pitcher Control – 2
Pitcher Consistency – 2

I initially started out on HOF pitching difficulty this year, with the hopes of an additional challenge. While it was challenging, it wasn’t realistic. I’ve found the results with Control and Consistency at 2 to be very realistic. Every time I think I’m starting to dominate,and consider changing the sliders, the CPU ends up having a great offensive performance. I’m getting the challenge, variety, and realistic experience I was looking for with both sliders at 2.

CPU Slider Explanations:

Contact– 3

There are two reasons why I have this slider at 3. Number one: to get realistic CPU strikeout rates. Number two: to decrease the CPU’s over-aggressiveness at the plate. At default, I found that the CPU was swinging at a lot of first pitches and second pitches. It didn’t matter if the pitch was a meatball or if it was a borderline strike on the corner, they were just free swinging atthe plate. Not only was this affecting User strike percentages, but it was also negatively affecting User pitch counts. I was constantly having my starters get into the later innings with only 65-70 pitches, and that just wasn’ trealistic. My theory is because of User Pitcher Control & Consistency being on the low side (2), the CPU was being more aggressive early in the count.

Power– 5

I initially had thoughts of decreasing this slider from default, but I just haven’t seen enough to warrant doing so. Hard hit balls don’t seem to be jumping off the bat at unrealistic rate, and hit variety is still very good. I see dribblers, slow-rollers through the hole, bloopers off the end of the bat, line drive base hits, and everything in between with CPU Power at default.

Timing– 5

I haven’t found a reason to change this slider from default.

Foul Frequency – 6

I increased this slider to work in conjunction with the decrease in CPU Contact. I wanted to get realistic strikeout rates, but I still wanted there to be that occasional 10-pitch battle with the User pitcher.

Solid Hits – 7

See explanation on User Side.

I’ve come up with these values so that the CPU Contact, Foul Frequency, and Solid Hits sliders are all working in conjunction with each other.

CPU Pitcher Control - 2
CPU Pitcher Consistency - 2
CPU Strike Frequency – 0

See explanation from initial write-up. My obsession with accurate strike percentages still stands. These are the same values that I used from my set from last year, and I haven’t found a reason to deviate from them.

Manager Hook – 3

This is the same value as I used last year. At default, I found that the CPU manager would pull their starter too early, more times than not. The CPU could be pitching a great game, allowing one run through 6 innings, and as soon as they allow a base runner, the CPU manager would remove them from the game(regardless of pitch count). With the slider at 3, this doesn’t happen nearly as often, although there will be anoccasional moment where the CPU makes a decision that will leave you scratching your head. However, it doesn’t happen enough to warrant a slider change.



Feedback and/or boxscores and stats would be greatly appreciated!

Here's to another great year of The Show!
Cheers! <o


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Really appreciate this whole thread and the desire and work to 'solve' this riddle of making MLB 14 The Show as real as it possibly can be.

I was wondering if The Show's Developers ever came out with anything on the sliders and it's affect on sim vs gameplay?

Also, this is something I've been experimenting with, but the Coaches, particularly for hitting (BB, AVG, SB) as the Manager, Hitting Coach, 1B Coach, 3B coach, and Farm Director can all have ratings that affect the hitters and running aspects of the game.

I try to get McLaughlin and I forget the other guy, as my base coaches as they offer +3 Stealing +2 Speed without the other categories being terrible.

Anyone done any research on this? Or if that affects only gameplay vs both, gameplay and sim?

I wonder if it's just a plain ratings boost across the board. This would in affect allow some guys to have a greater than 99 Speed (much like I think TS gives Cabrera a better than 99 hitting rating, perhaps 105).

Not sure the Managers/Coaches belongs in the Sim Sliders post - but don't see another that it would seem to fit.

Curious if any of you have tinkered with this in your sims as well.
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[tonyfire2001]

Re: Itbeme23 Sim Sliders - Veteran Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching &amp; OCD Accurate Strik

Hey Itbeme,

Just wanted to let you know I am still rolling with your sliders here. I am In the middle of May with my braves franchise (yeah only may.... Had to go underway for the summer, Hoya navy)

To tell you that you got these right, I am streaking with them, just like the reall braves I have exact record at the same point, also they are near last or dead last in offensive catagory and first in pitching just like in real life. Hhhhhmmmm, this can be a conspirory theory here ( like the grassy knoll, or the ancient aliens, or even dare say Bigfoot).

I am still plugging away and I will post my stats on Sunday cause today I am heading to boston to watch Red Sox vs Yankees. Yeah Derek jester second to last game.