Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

[DarthRambo]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

I am using dynamic difficulty. Currently I'm at AS+ pitching and Veteran hitting. I have played at least 50 games or better using DD so I'm thinking I'm very close to settling in. Vet hitting is def where I'm staying. I think I can manage HOF pitching like I was last year but it takes a while to level up

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[BrianU]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

In this thread we have been talking about how the pickoff rates are very realistic. I don't think you can track them in CPU vs CPU without watching the games but it is something to be aware of in that it might be affecting results. I made a bug report and they said they will look into it next year but it seems to be very off and sliders don't really fix the issue. Seeing guys getting picked off with no leads is weird.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-pickoffs.html

[HopiDesertPriest]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

Hello,

Are there any sliders for cpu vs cpu games using Quick Counts ?


Thanks.

[nomo17k]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

In this thread we have been talking about how the pickoff rates are very realistic. I don't think you can track them in CPU vs CPU without watching the games but it is something to be aware of in that it might be affecting results. I made a bug report and they said they will look into it next year but it seems to be very off and sliders don't really fix the issue. Seeing guys getting picked off with no leads is weird.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-pickoffs.html

I have seen pickoffs (not successful) in CPU vs. CPU games, so they do definitely happen. I don't believe it happens as often, though, so the effect on CPU vs. CPU games is minimal I think.

I don't think I actually have ever been successful picking off when CPU doesn't take an extra lead. Is that possible this year?

Hello,

Are there any sliders for cpu vs cpu games using Quick Counts ?


Thanks.

No, I am not working on QC slider set, for the reasons that I wrote earlier in the thread. I don't think it should be necessary, and I don't think you can influence the QC games that much with sliders. But once I finish the CPU slider set, I might look into how CPU vs. CPU games plays in QC.

[nonoirie]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

Nomo,

What are trying to accomplish when you're reducing the strike frequency to 4 on 4/20 batch?

[nomo17k]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

Nomo,

What are trying to accomplish when you're reducing the strike frequency to 4 on 4/20 batch?

I am trying to conquer the world.

[HopiDesertPriest]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

I am trying to conquer the world.

LOL !!


Nomo is the Coolest Cat Around.

[nomo17k]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

Nomo,

What are trying to accomplish when you're reducing the strike frequency to 4 on 4/20 batch?

I am seeing if that actually increases BB% so that the number of walks becomes realistic.

I'm monitoring the strike %s in various counts (first-pitch, early, ahead, behind, full, etc.), and I don't really see the need for lowering Strike Frequency slider, because first-pitch/early counts are what that slider affects and those numbers usually look fine. What is consistently higher is the strike % when the pitcher falls behind, but we don't really have a way of adjusting it other than to make the overall strike %s lower by lowering Pitcher Control/Consistency. But I don't want to lower them too much.

So I'm just giving Strike Frequency one click down to see if that's all needed.

[kcsam]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

I am seeing if that actually increases BB% so that the number of walks becomes realistic.

I'm monitoring the strike %s in various counts (first-pitch, early, ahead, behind, full, etc.), and I don't really see the need for lowering Strike Frequency slider, because first-pitch/early counts are what that slider affects and those numbers usually look fine. What is consistently higher is the strike % when the pitcher falls behind, but we don't really have a way of adjusting it other than to make the overall strike %s lower by lowering Pitcher Control/Consistency. But I don't want to lower them too much.

So I'm just giving Strike Frequency one click down to see if that's all needed.

It looks like reducing the strike frequency negatively affected some of the other stats. From what I can see, it seems the most accurate stats thus far came from the 4/15 batch.

[nomo17k]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

It looks like reducing the strike frequency negatively affected some of the other stats. From what I can see, it seems the most accurate stats thus far came from the 4/15 batch.

You mean the offense is a bit down? The way I'm running games, it's not easy to tell early. I'm playing out every single game in a season mode, so it takes about 75 games to cover top-line to the bottom-of-the-rotation starters. Right now most pitchers are top-of-the-rotation guys, so I expect offense to be down.

It's kinda interesting if the offense is really be down because of lower Strike Frequency. I'm not exactly sure of the mechanism of how the game attempts to reduce early-count strikes, but if it's done by making pitchers to nibble to corners a bit more (till you lower it too much and CPU starts throwing obvious balls), then it's not surprising that the right amount of nibbling makes them more effective in avoiding throwing meat pitches in early counts.

I think most sliders work simple under the hood, but when combined with how the game plays it can have subtle and unintuitive effects like this.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

Last year I had strike frequency at zero, pitcher control at 2, and consistency at 1 for both hum and cpu. This was the best combo I could find to create a decent BB%. I wish there was a slider to make the cpu more patient at the plate. That is the biggest issue I found

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[kcsam]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

You mean the offense is a bit down? The way I'm running games, it's not easy to tell early. I'm playing out every single game in a season mode, so it takes about 75 games to cover top-line to the bottom-of-the-rotation starters. Right now most pitchers are top-of-the-rotation guys, so I expect offense to be down.

It's kinda interesting if the offense is really be down because of lower Strike Frequency. I'm not exactly sure of the mechanism of how the game attempts to reduce early-count strikes, but if it's done by making pitchers to nibble to corners a bit more (till you lower it too much and CPU starts throwing obvious balls), then it's not surprising that the right amount of nibbling makes them more effective in avoiding throwing meat pitches in early counts.

I think most sliders work simple under the hood, but when combined with how the game plays it can have subtle and unintuitive effects like this.

Yeah, you're right, I meant the offensive side of the stats. I guess I didn't take into consideration the sample size you had accumulated at this point. Or the factor of the bottom of the rotation guys. It would be great to be able to get BB% and SO% more accurate. So whatever you are doing I definitely applaud you because it seems like you are moving in the right direction. It just takes time I guess. Either way, keep up the good work. I'll continue checking back regularly to see if/when you had a final set.

[bcruise]

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Going to post up some stats of my own once I reach the end of April on a Cubs Season mode I'm running. The results are....interesting. I'm beating my head against a wall trying to imagine if these stats are believable or not.

Just one thing I want to point out for comparison's sake before I throw out the fake season stats - The real-life Houston Astros are batting below the Mendoza line AS A TEAM after 20 games.

[nomo17k]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

Going to post up some stats of my own once I reach the end of April on a Cubs Season mode I'm running. The results are....interesting. I'm beating my head against a wall trying to imagine if these stats are believable or not.

Just one thing I want to point out for comparison's sake before I throw out the fake season stats - The real-life Houston Astros are batting below the Mendoza line AS A TEAM after 20 games.

Is that all in CPU vs. CPU games, or are most games simmed? I can believe a team like the Astros going below .200 for CPU vs. CPU games with default sliders.

[bcruise]

Re: Stats-Based CPU Sliders [MLB 14 Version]

Is that all in CPU vs. CPU games, or are most games simmed? I can believe a team like the Astros going below .200 for CPU vs. CPU games with default sliders.

All of them played out CPU vs CPU. It can be compared to what you're doing (except I'm on all default sliders).