2015 Chicago Cubs

[stlbearboy]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

ZiPS is, by design, a conservative model. It's less likely to predict breakouts and numbers much higher than career norms. That's a strength or a weakness in the model depending on how you look at it.

I'll take that explanation. Being a cubs fan in saint louis, it was painful to see how the osfm ratings came out last year and the were a bunch of the Cardinals pitching prospects were rated higher than mlb starters. I'm not complaining about the job that mroldboy does, but I think some of the other guys are overly positive about their team. Soler's hr rate projection should be about 4% to me.

[MrOldboy]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

They probably didn't get scanned last year. Chances are they might have gotten scanned this spring so maybe next year they'll look better.........hopefully.

Sure, but it is always surprising that end users using the in game tools make much more convincing faces in a short period of time. I honestly expect more from a studio as respected as San Diego. At least take a look at some user CAPs first, even copying over the ones from OSFM last year would be a big step up.

[ShowTyme15]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

Sure, but it is always surprising that end users using the in game tools make much more convincing faces in a short period of time. I honestly expect more from a studio as respected as San Diego. At least take a look at some user CAPs first, even copying over the ones from OSFM last year would be a big step up.

It's just not something they do and they probably never will. The only time they've used a community face was Bryce Harper from a few years ago. They do these face scans for players that are willing to do it. It's not mandatory for players to show up and do the scans. Some players aren't around or they refuse to do it (see Mike Trout). Nothing SCEA can really do. Yeah I get it some users make better faces, but it doesn't mean SCEA has to use them or take input on them.

[MrOldboy]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

It's just not something they do and they probably never will. The only time they've used a community face was Bryce Harper from a few years ago. They do these face scans for players that are willing to do it. It's not mandatory for players to show up and do the scans. Some players aren't around or they refuse to do it (see Mike Trout). Nothing SCEA can really do. Yeah I get it some users make better faces, but it doesn't mean SCEA has to use them or take input on them.

Of course not, but when you are saying that you want to make the most authentic baseball experience you can it sort of conflicts with some of their practices. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it is odd how off their face creations can be sometimes. Nearly every other part of the game feels so polished. When you see a player like Soler step up to the plate you expect to at least be able to recognize him. It stands out in what is a very shiny baseball package.

[ShowTyme15]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

Of course not, but when you are saying that you want to make the most authentic baseball experience you can it sort of conflicts with some of their practices. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it is odd how off their face creations can be sometimes. Nearly every other part of the game feels so polished. When you see a player like Soler step up to the plate you expect to at least be able to recognize him. It stands out in what is a very shiny baseball package.

But you're still missing the point. It's up to the player to want to get scanned. It's not SCEA's duty to go run a guy down for a facial scan. They either do it or they don't.

[MrOldboy]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

But you're still missing the point. It's up to the player to want to get scanned. It's not SCEA's duty to go run a guy down for a facial scan. They either do it or they don't.

I'm not talking about face scans. If a user of the game can make a convincing player using the in game tools a professional artist on staff at San Diego Studios should also be able to create something on par or better. Face scans will be what they are, there are just too many players in the MLB compared to the NBA to really make it feasible to get everyone, but the in game creations I feel could be improved quite a bit.

[ShowTyme15]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

I'm not talking about face scans. If a user of the game can make a convincing player using the in game tools a professional artist on staff at San Diego Studios should also be able to create something on par or better. Face scans will be what they are, there are just too many players in the MLB compared to the NBA to really make it feasible to get everyone, but the in game creations I feel could be improved quite a bit.

Yeah, probably not going to happen. SCEA would have to get permission from the creator and all the other hurdles. Probably not worth it for them.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

Yeah, probably not going to happen. SCEA would have to get permission from the creator and all the other hurdles. Probably not worth it for them.

Or they could just hire Motown and another 10 guys as good as him and have the actual capacity to turn out good CAPS instead of relying on face scans. They do employ artists, but I bet their artists are busy doing other things.

[ShowTyme15]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

Or they could just hire Motown and another 10 guys as good as him and have the actual capacity to turn out good CAPS instead of relying on face scans. They do employ artists, but I bet their artists are busy doing other things.

They could do that, but again probably not going to happen.

[MrOldboy]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

I feel like in other games with user created content a simply EULA can make it so those creations can be used in game by the developers/publisher. Of course they would have to have the rights to those players first, but for MLB players I don't see why they can't have a line in the EULA that allows them to use user created content. I feel like this came up recently in the news when a game did use user content, but failed to actually put that in the EULA or privacy agreement or something.

[MrOldboy]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

Anyways, I ended up getting a Baez and Soler to their correct stats and service time. So when OSFM releases anyone who wants these to replace the San Diego versions can.

[Figment]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

So maybe someone can explain this to me, I understand the whole service time requirement thing going on with Kris Bryant and why they will wait a couple weeks to bring him up to retain a year of control on the back end, that makes sense and is a good business decision. What I don't get is that this is becoming a major point of discussion with the MLBPA and is going to be addressed and possibly changed in the next collective bargaining agreement. With the chances of that rule changing there, it could redefine a season of playing time and completely null out this whole fiasco, so why not call him up to start the year?

[OhioCub]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

So maybe someone can explain this to me, I understand the whole service time requirement thing going on with Kris Bryant and why they will wait a couple weeks to bring him up to retain a year of control on the back end, that makes sense and is a good business decision. What I don't get is that this is becoming a major point of discussion with the MLBPA and is going to be addressed and possibly changed in the next collective bargaining agreement. With the chances of that rule changing there, it could redefine a season of playing time and completely null out this whole fiasco, so why not call him up to start the year?

Even if they did change it I doubt it would be back dated to include guys brought up before the change. Plus, it's part of the CBA so I don't think it can be changed until a new one is signed and put into effect.

[Figment]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

Even if they did change it I doubt it would be back dated to include guys brought up before the change. Plus, it's part of the CBA so I don't think it can be changed until a new one is signed and put into effect.

The current CBA expires in 2016, so that is actually really soon. And if I understand correctly, nobody gets "grandfathered" in just because they were called up at a certain time. They would effectively change the definition of service time.

[OhioCub]

Re: 2015 Chicago Cubs

In case you haven't heard yet, the Cubs just released felix doubront opening up a spot on the roster.