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  • Rattler17
    Rookie
    • Mar 2006
    • 451

    #166
    Re: Hybrid + OSFM

    Originally posted by cts50
    I mean, it doesnt matter how many pitches they throw if they are giving you meatballs on lower difficulty levels.


    Otherwise, most relievers throw 3-4 pitches. And then they only use 2-3 as dominant pitches they attack you with.
    It has to do with realism. And people saying that everyone has 5 pitches but only use 2 or 3 is completely inaccurate and even more so in a game where the computer is programmed to throw everything at its disposal. Where is the reward in chasing a guy like Kershaw only to have the reliever come in and have the exact same repertoire and the same or better control of it ? Seems a tad on the unrealistic side no ?
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    • cts50
      Banned
      • Jun 2014
      • 557

      #167
      Re: Hybrid + OSFM

      Originally posted by Rattler17
      It has to do with realism. And people saying that everyone has 5 pitches but only use 2 or 3 is completely inaccurate and even more so in a game where the computer is programmed to throw everything at its disposal. Where is the reward in chasing a guy like Kershaw only to have the reliever come in and have the exact same repertoire and the same or better control of it ? Seems a tad on the unrealistic side no ?
      That is the way the game works now-a-days.

      Sometimes there is no reward for chasing the starter. You hear it all the time.

      People say "Get your runs early, because the bullpen is amazing"

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      • Rattler17
        Rookie
        • Mar 2006
        • 451

        #168
        Re: Hybrid + OSFM

        Originally posted by cts50
        That is the way the game works now-a-days.

        Sometimes there is no reward for chasing the starter. You hear it all the time.

        People say "Get your runs early, because the bullpen is amazing"
        This should not be the case if someone or some people are spending months rebuilding a roster. The problem lies in SCEA's laziness. Every year they released a beautiful shell of a game with no depth. Would be nice if they started getting it right.
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        • Thomas7
          Rookie
          • Oct 2010
          • 232

          #169
          Re: Hybrid + OSFM

          So you are using scea rosters? What difficult level, Yes it Does make a difference. Are you using sliders? Turn down the strike frequency,control and pitch consistency. Have a great week. Sometimes you just need a break from this GREAT GAME.

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          • Rattler17
            Rookie
            • Mar 2006
            • 451

            #170
            Re: Hybrid + OSFM

            Originally posted by Thomas7
            So you are using scea rosters? What difficult level, Yes it Does make a difference. Are you using sliders? Turn down the strike frequency,control and pitch consistency. Have a great week. Sometimes you just need a break from this GREAT GAME.
            every roster build including this one is taken from SCEA so that remark is irrelevant. I do not argue that this game is a fantastic addition to an already award winning franchise. However the game of baseball is what it is. None the less my question still remains. Do the RedsFan roster updates contain any pitching edits in so far as the ratings of certain pitches being more accurate as to keep everyone from dropping 15 mph on their change in comparison to their fastball. Remaking the entire pitching line up for all 30 teams including their minor league affiliates is a massive undertaking. Although I have heard some say it would be much easier to simply zero out pitches that a pitcher does not have. Thus making them unable to throw it in the first place.
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            • cts50
              Banned
              • Jun 2014
              • 557

              #171
              Re: Hybrid + OSFM

              If you take the sliders down all the way to 0 for Hum Stamina and CPU Stamina, and then make Manager Hook 10, you get the most realistic experience. The best teams get around 14 complete games on the season. The worst teams get 0. Most teams are around 5.

              And you can make injuries 10 and it helps add more realistic injuries.



              Pitch speed on 10 is pretty cool too. The ball comes in with speed like real life.

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              • KingV2k3
                Senior Circuit
                • May 2003
                • 5881

                #172
                Re: Hybrid + OSFM

                Originally posted by cts50
                If you take the sliders down all the way to 0 for Hum Stamina and CPU Stamina, and then make Manager Hook 10, you get the most realistic experience. The best teams get around 14 complete games on the season. The worst teams get 0. Most teams are around 5.

                And you can make injuries 10 and it helps add more realistic injuries.



                Pitch speed on 10 is pretty cool too. The ball comes in with speed like real life.
                Well, this is interesting...

                I've been playing these sports themed console games for years and the consensus has been that the gameplay sliders don't affect the simmed games...

                Thanks for testing and confirming...

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                • rjackson
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 1661

                  #173
                  Re: Hybrid + OSFM

                  Hate to tell you then that they've worked in The Show for years.

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                  • KingV2k3
                    Senior Circuit
                    • May 2003
                    • 5881

                    #174
                    Re: Hybrid + OSFM

                    Originally posted by rjackson
                    Hate to tell you then that they've worked in The Show for years.
                    Oh well, my bad then...

                    Better late than never?



                    Since this is the case, they should just have separate sliders for simming games like the text based sports titles usually do...
                    Last edited by KingV2k3; 04-30-2015, 07:29 PM.

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                    • cts50
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 557

                      #175
                      Re: Hybrid + OSFM

                      Originally posted by Rattler17
                      This should not be the case if someone or some people are spending months rebuilding a roster. The problem lies in SCEA's laziness. Every year they released a beautiful shell of a game with no depth. Would be nice if they started getting it right.
                      Dude, but that is real baseball. There are some dominant relievers out there.

                      I am saying, sometimes you need to get your runs early. All the starters job to do is get to the 7th...then a shutdown bullpen comes in and ends it.

                      That is how baseball works in 2015.

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                      • kamackeris76
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 1662

                        #176
                        Re: Hybrid + OSFM

                        Originally posted by cts50
                        If you take the sliders down all the way to 0 for Hum Stamina and CPU Stamina, and then make Manager Hook 10, you get the most realistic experience. The best teams get around 14 complete games on the season. The worst teams get 0. Most teams are around 5.

                        And you can make injuries 10 and it helps add more realistic injuries.



                        Pitch speed on 10 is pretty cool too. The ball comes in with speed like real life.
                        Is this for all games you use these or just the games you are not playing directly? Bit confused here!

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                        • cts50
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 557

                          #177
                          Re: Hybrid + OSFM

                          Originally posted by kamackeris76
                          Is this for all games you use these or just the games you are not playing directly? Bit confused here!
                          I load it before I simulate and play games.

                          You can do whatever you want with all the other sliders and settings, but Hum. Starter Stamina/Reliever Stamina need to be at 0, along with CPU Starter/Reliever Stamina.

                          And Manger Hook needs to be at 10.

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                          • kamackeris76
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 1662

                            #178
                            Re: Hybrid + OSFM

                            Originally posted by cts50
                            I load it before I simulate and play games.

                            You can do whatever you want with all the other sliders and settings, but Hum. Starter Stamina/Reliever Stamina need to be at 0, along with CPU Starter/Reliever Stamina.

                            And Manger Hook needs to be at 10.
                            Even for the games you play Yeh?

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                            • cts50
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 557

                              #179
                              Re: Hybrid + OSFM

                              Originally posted by kamackeris76
                              Even for the games you play Yeh?
                              You can do whatever you want for games played to be honest. I think the sliders are perfect without even changing them for the most part.

                              I like the Stamina Sliders at 0, Hum Batting Power and Hum Solid Contact up to 6-7, and then pitch speed at 7ish.

                              Pickoffs at 0. Injuries at 10. Man. Hook at 10.

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                              • Willard76
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 2841

                                #180
                                Re: Hybrid + OSFM

                                A lot of the pitching issues are related to the roster being done with our intial ratings which were found to be slitghtly high for the pitching - they are being corrected on my roster release as well as what Teeds and WTNY put out. I don't mean to hijack this thread at all with other roster promotion, its just that while everyone is trying to wrestle with sliders etc - that will help in game play - it will not affect the sim stats

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