Eliminating or severely cutting back retirements in Franchise

[tsbraves]

So you have a roster you like and you'd like to use it when MLB THE SHOW 16 comes out. However, you have to sim the 2015 year to be able to use accurately in 2016. The problem is when you sim the 2015 year the game retires a ton of players due to age, ability and poor free agent market. Anyone discovered how you can eliminate or cut that retirement down severely?

If I gave everyone a 2 year contract would that work? Some pretty good players were retired (David Ortiz, RA Dickey, Ichiro, Aaron Harang and 30 others) due to age and a butt load of guys due to Poor Free Agent Market - including two that I had given 2 year contracts to (which really confused me!).

Any ideas?

[JDiaz1]

Re: Eliminating or severely cutting back retirements in Franchise

I generally just edit the contracts and add a year or two and so far it has worked for me

[tsbraves]

Re: Eliminating or severely cutting back retirements in Franchise

I generally just edit the contracts and add a year or two and so far it has worked for me

Thanks JDiaz1... when you say "edit the contracts" do you lower some of the bigger salaries and add a year or two or do you just leave them the same amount add years? I'm assuming that for example if Dickey was given another years contract that even though he's 40 they won't retire him.

[bacon96]

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This obviously doesn't help the first batch of retirements but it will for every other. One thing you could try is edit players from the new draft class. What I do is change their ages to 45 and potentials to F to assure they'll retire instead. It's a bit tedious but it works if you have time.

[tsbraves]

Re: Eliminating or severely cutting back retirements in Franchise

This obviously doesn't help the first batch of retirements but it will for every other. One thing you could try is edit players from the new draft class. What I do is change their ages to 45 and potentials to F to assure they'll retire instead. It's a bit tedious but it works if you have time.

Hey Bacon96... thx. You are right about having those "created 45 yr olds" - they definitely retire but I haven't yet got it to where they retire instead of guys like Ortiz, Harang, Ichiro, Rollings, Dickey, etc. Grrrr...

[htskr21]

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Hey Bacon96... thx. You are right about having those "created 45 yr olds" - they definitely retire but I haven't yet got it to where they retire instead of guys like Ortiz, Harang, Ichiro, Rollings, Dickey, etc. Grrrr...

How about playing the 2015 season and pretending it's 2016? Problem solved. We used to pretend all sorts of things back in the 80's and 90's.

[tsbraves]

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How about playing the 2015 season and pretending it's 2016? Problem solved. We used to pretend all sorts of things back in the 80's and 90's.

LOL
I'm pretty sure I'm pretending in a lot of areas still in the 2010's!

[redsoxfan31]

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LOL
I'm pretty sure I'm pretending in a lot of areas still in the 2010's!

I know a guy posted about it earlier but I have had the best success in limiting the number of retirements by editing the contracts of players to have a 2nd year on them. I don't know if it's something within the game that doesn't let players retire with years/money left on their contract but I have given R.A. Dickey, Bartolo Colon, David Ortiz, and Ichiro each another year on their contract and at the end of the year they didn't retire. So that might be your best bet!

[tsbraves]

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I know a guy posted about it earlier but I have had the best success in limiting the number of retirements by editing the contracts of players to have a 2nd year on them. I don't know if it's something within the game that doesn't let players retire with years/money left on their contract but I have given R.A. Dickey, Bartolo Colon, David Ortiz, and Ichiro each another year on their contract and at the end of the year they didn't retire. So that might be your best bet!

Thanks redsoxfan31! I think your suggestion becomes the consensus of most roster guru's here.

Here's an additional question: When you added 2+ years to all players did anyone retire?

The last time I simmed 2015 the game retired over 30 guys due to "poor free agent market." Will 2+ years cut that out too? I'm not sure what the deal was - if they were making too much money or what?

Thanks for your help.

[redsoxfan31]

Re: Eliminating or severely cutting back retirements in Franchise

Thanks redsoxfan31! I think your suggestion becomes the consensus of most roster guru's here.

Here's an additional question: When you added 2+ years to all players did anyone retire?

The last time I simmed 2015 the game retired over 30 guys due to "poor free agent market." Will 2+ years cut that out too? I'm not sure what the deal was - if they were making too much money or what?

Thanks for your help.

I usually only did it to the major leaguers that retired, because for me personally I wasn't too upset if a catcher in double A ball retired because of a poor free agent market, I think but I may be wrong and a guy like bacon could probably elaborate more on this but I think the poor free agent market develops when guys aren't signed by the draft cause then the game has to force a bunch of players to retire since the game only has so many player spots and with the new draftees that gets taken up pretty quickly, but like I said I could be wrong but I believe that's what causes the "poor free agent" retirement message

[tsbraves]

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I usually only did it to the major leaguers that retired, because for me personally I wasn't too upset if a catcher in double A ball retired because of a poor free agent market, I think but I may be wrong and a guy like bacon could probably elaborate more on this but I think the poor free agent market develops when guys aren't signed by the draft cause then the game has to force a bunch of players to retire since the game only has so many player spots and with the new draftees that gets taken up pretty quickly, but like I said I could be wrong but I believe that's what causes the "poor free agent" retirement message

That makes a lot of sense! After all, it's a great game but it is a game and thus has to have some limitations.

[tsbraves]

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By Jove! I think I've got it! (Well, some or most of it anyway)

After countless tries and sims I found two things will retire your players even if they have multi year contracts.

1. Their age. If they are 38 or older it seems they have a plus chance of not being paid even 30k for their 2nd or 3rd year.
2. Their potential. I had several players being retired every sim. For example, Zach Booker for the Orioles, RP Robby Scott for the Red Sox, K.D. Kang for the Braves, Chris Narveson for the Marlins. They thing they had in common? D potential. So even though they had multiple year low money contracts their potential apparently made them not worth the next years salary.

It's not perfect but I have got it down to just a few players being retired and those are usually AA or A players with C potential. The last sim I did I had 6 total retirements and no major leaguers. Personally, I can live with that.

[Culture Rot]

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Why is this a problem in every sports game

[tsbraves]

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Well, my previous post is basically a dung heap.
I thought I had found that if you go through a roster (like bacon96's or Sookiebunnie's, etc) and make sure every player has a multi-year contract and has potential C or above that the game will not retire those players when you sim 2015 to get to 2016.
THAT IS NOT TRUE!
No matter what I do the dreaded PFAM (Poor Free Agent Market) takes out some players that may have a possibility of helping out in the Major league team.
For example:
Balt: L.J. Hoes & Paul Jannish
Red Sox: Steven Wright
Tor: Josh Thole
KC: Peter Moylan
TEX: Chris Gimenez
ATL: Bonifacio
MIA: Dylan Axelrod

Just to name a few. Not even mentioning the FA like Loshe, Simon, etc.

I even went back in giving those guys 3 year contracts at $25k a year and while the game did not retire them it retired some other players that have at some fairly good potential to help out at the MLB level. I think the problem is the draft. The game drafts players that are better than the status quo players and so retires the real players and keeps the fake draft ones. Not sure but just speculating on that.

A lot of time goes into changing all potential and contract years and I've just about come to the conclusion it's not worth it and just wait for the OSFM 2016 roster. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news if someone else is hoping to use a roster to get their 2016 franchise going in a start of season fashion. If I'm missing something let me know.

[vbarletta]

Re: Eliminating or severely cutting back retirements in Franchise

This obviously doesn't help the first batch of retirements but it will for every other. One thing you could try is edit players from the new draft class. What I do is change their ages to 45 and potentials to F to assure they'll retire instead. It's a bit tedious but it works if you have time.

Hey Bacon: How do you edit players from the new draft class? They are not available until the season ends, and by that time the retiring or Poor free agent market has taken out a lot of players.