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  • WaitTilNextYear
    Go Cubs Go
    • Mar 2013
    • 16830

    #31
    Re: 2016 OSFM HYBRID V1 (official release thread)

    Originally posted by Garrett59
    I got some questions. Isnt a 97 and 89 a little too high for Thor and Vince Velaquez respectively based off their experience? And how does Urias have 87 stamina when he just threw 6 innings for the 1st time the other day. I also think Faria for the Rays may be a little overrated considering he hasnt succeeded above AA yet. I love these rosters but I would lioe to understand why the young guns are so highly rated already. Like Velasquez better then Hamels and many more just seems odd so early in his career after like 2 months of good pitching. And having Thor higher overall then Arrieta seems unjust to say the least. Please dont construe this as hating im just curious as to why people were rated the way they are.
    Everything is based on Steamer projections exactly so we avoid this type of "but I think so and so is better" type of fallacy. We have tested formulas that rely on industry-standard projections (based on actual performance) and numbers come out and we use the output. It works so well that only very rarely do we go in and adjust something.

    As for STAM, you have to remember that stamina does not progress in the game. So we've tried to hit the sweet spot of what guys might turn into without overdoing it. Otherwise you have a bunch of 5 inning starting pitchers with 68 STAM in year 7 of your franchise. No thanks.

    Also saying that Syndergaard at 97 and Arrieta only at 96 OVR is a big deal is a bit of a stretch, lol. You made it sound like Arrieta was a 65 OVR or something. It's not like Syndergaard isn't one of the most dominant pitchers around either. OVR isn't everything. Try playing with them and then make your judgments.

    The refrain: if you don't like something, then change it. The roster plays well and sims well and we're comfortable with the system we have in place. This roster isn't for everyone; many people are quite happy with how Sony does things.

    ----------------------------------

    EDIT: Just for the fun of it, here are some stats for these guys from real life this year...

    Hamels (87 OVR): 5-0, 2.83 ERA, 1.26 WHIP, 4.48 FIP, 9.73 K/9, 3.30 BB/9, 1.57 HR/9, 0.4 fWAR

    Velasquez (89 OVR): 5-1, 2.42 ERA, 0.99 WHIP, 2.43 FIP, 10.99 K/9, 2.79 BB/9, 0.56 HR/9, 1.7 fWAR



    Arrieta (96 OVR): 8-0, 1.29 ERA, 0.84 WHIP, 2.48 FIP, 9.00 K/9, 2.86 BB/9, 0.29 HR/9, 1.9 fWAR

    Syndergaard (97 OVR): 5-2, 1.94 ERA, 0.98 WHIP, 1.70 FIP, 11.34 K/9, 1.34 BB/9, 0.45 HR/9, 2.5 fWAR



    How are the projections doing so far?
    Last edited by WaitTilNextYear; 05-24-2016, 01:00 AM.
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    • Bat
      what
      • Mar 2005
      • 1630

      #32
      Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

      Awesome work, thanks! I am curious as to why Francisco Lindor's potential was lowered to a B? He is living up to the top prospect type hype. Not really worried just curious, thanks!
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      • deebs
        Rookie
        • Mar 2013
        • 12

        #33
        Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

        Thanks very much fellas, I've been lurking in the background checking and waiting like so many others... Can't start a franchise without your hArd work.

        Couple quick questions... In order to get the opening day rosters to stick for opening day, what do I need to do?

        Do I need to manually assign players as I see fit to the minors for every team? Once I set the other 29 teams to auto lineup/roster, won't they potentially do things like make Ortiz play 1B and send Brock Holt to AA?

        Thanks for your time!

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        • WaitTilNextYear
          Go Cubs Go
          • Mar 2013
          • 16830

          #34
          Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

          Originally posted by Bat
          Awesome work, thanks! I am curious as to why Francisco Lindor's potential was lowered to a B? He is living up to the top prospect type hype. Not really worried just curious, thanks!
          An 88 POT is still a perennial All Star. It's hard to get into the A range as a position player without hitting for at least 15-20 HR consistent power. There are only a handful of guys like this (Moncada, Buxton, Arcia) in the roster. And they are all just scraping 90 POT. By this time next year, we may be debating a 75-80 POT for Buxton, but he deserves some time (more than 150 MLB at bats) to figure it out.

          Certainly, if you believe Lindor is Derek Jeter with a Gold Glove, 88 POT will look low. Then again, nothing in Lindor's offensive profile (minor league numbers not as good, inflated BABIP) suggests he'll sustain his torrid performance as a .320 hitter.
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          • No.27
            Pro
            • Dec 2015
            • 543

            #35
            Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

            Thanks so much to everyone involved for the roster. Glad to see the band back together and the Hybrid name reclaimed! This roster is the one I am finally going to complete 162 games with. Now off to the vault for a hundred or so "likes" before I start my franchise. 😀

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            • kamackeris76
              MVP
              • Oct 2012
              • 1653

              #36
              Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

              Can't wait to get home from work to start my franchise.... Just to decide who to run with!

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              • joebrown352
                Rookie
                • Feb 2010
                • 210

                #37
                Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                Thanks for the hardwork guys. Much appreciated. Was curious if anyone has a spreadsheet or database that has a list of the guys on the roster? Not looking for a ratings spreadsheet, strictly names.

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                • Garrett59
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 160

                  #38
                  Re: 2016 OSFM HYBRID V1 (official release thread)

                  Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                  Everything is based on Steamer projections exactly so we avoid this type of "but I think so and so is better" type of fallacy. We have tested formulas that rely on industry-standard projections (based on actual performance) and numbers come out and we use the output. It works so well that only very rarely do we go in and adjust something.

                  As for STAM, you have to remember that stamina does not progress in the game. So we've tried to hit the sweet spot of what guys might turn into without overdoing it. Otherwise you have a bunch of 5 inning starting pitchers with 68 STAM in year 7 of your franchise. No thanks.

                  Also saying that Syndergaard at 97 and Arrieta only at 96 OVR is a big deal is a bit of a stretch, lol. You made it sound like Arrieta was a 65 OVR or something. It's not like Syndergaard isn't one of the most dominant pitchers around either. OVR isn't everything. Try playing with them and then make your judgments.

                  The refrain: if you don't like something, then change it. The roster plays well and sims well and we're comfortable with the system we have in place. This roster isn't for everyone; many people are quite happy with how Sony does things.

                  ----------------------------------

                  EDIT: Just for the fun of it, here are some stats for these guys from real life this year...

                  Hamels (87 OVR): 5-0, 2.83 ERA, 1.26 WHIP, 4.48 FIP, 9.73 K/9, 3.30 BB/9, 1.57 HR/9, 0.4 fWAR

                  Velasquez (89 OVR): 5-1, 2.42 ERA, 0.99 WHIP, 2.43 FIP, 10.99 K/9, 2.79 BB/9, 0.56 HR/9, 1.7 fWAR



                  Arrieta (96 OVR): 8-0, 1.29 ERA, 0.84 WHIP, 2.48 FIP, 9.00 K/9, 2.86 BB/9, 0.29 HR/9, 1.9 fWAR

                  Syndergaard (97 OVR): 5-2, 1.94 ERA, 0.98 WHIP, 1.70 FIP, 11.34 K/9, 1.34 BB/9, 0.45 HR/9, 2.5 fWAR



                  How are the projections doing so far?
                  I am well aware of their stats so far I just figured guys with a smaller sample size wouldnt be rated so highly opposed to proven veterans. Velasquez had over a 4 era last season. And i know the Thor thing isnt much but Arrieta has a sub 1 era in his last 29 starts if there is a pitcher deserving of a 99 I would think its him. Thor is a stud i wasnt knocking him rather praising how dominant Arrieta has been. And good point on the stamina i forgot it was like that this year. One last thing I was surprised to see Tulos offensive stats so low, is this taking Coors field affect into consideration, or is it the projections? Once again thanks for all the hard work, it is much appreciated.

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                  • ArtOfBetrayal
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 10

                    #39
                    Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                    So ive been coming to these forums for years, and have been installing your roster every year since you have made it, however I rarely post. I just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work you guys put in. Once this roster drops it is the only roster I will use for the rest of the year. Much appreciated.

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                    • AC
                      Win the East
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 14951

                      #40
                      Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                      The issue isn't that they got guys' overalls wrong. The issue is that overall is calculated wrong. It doesn't weigh different attributes properly. That's why overall doesn't matter, look at guys' individual attributes and ask yourself if they make sense instead of just looking at overall
                      "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                      • bravesfan1984
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 2808

                        #41
                        Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                        Hey guys, phenomenal work as always! Can't wait to dive in and start playing with these rosters. Quick question though, I don't have the game on right now but I was just browsing last night for a few minutes and noticed that Adam Eaton's defense was rated pretty low considering his UZR/DRS this season in RF. Was this because of sample size?

                        Also noticed Neris from PHI was one of the lower rated RP's...I'm sure since these are based on steamer, it didn't envision his breakout.

                        Just curious of your thoughts.
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                        • PleasedToMeetMe
                          Rookie
                          • May 2014
                          • 254

                          #42
                          Re: 2016 OSFM HYBRID V1 (official release thread)

                          Originally posted by Willard76
                          How I Use 30 Team Control

                          Many have asked, and for myself being a guy who in the past only like using single team control, it took some adjustment and playing around to find setting for 30 team control I liked.

                          1. Set up 2 Profiles, 1 for your team, 1 for CPU teams

                          2. Profile 1, I set everything up on Manual Control to start the season

                          3. Profile 2 is a mimic of Profile 1 for Spring Training, then I transfer everything but lineups and 40 man to AUTO, (this way you can move players up and down to your roster through spring training and not lose guys on waivers)

                          4. Start your franchise - leave CPU trades turned ON (more about this later)

                          5. Play spring training - no injuries will happen unless you turn on injuries, you can move about 5 players up and down per day, they will use up one of their options but you won't loose them to another team - just make sure you move the player to AAA before taking them off the 40 to make room for your call up

                          6. At the end of spring training make sure you set your proper 40 man roster, then change Profile 2 to Auto for all categories

                          7.Every day during the season, scan through proposed trades and veto any bad trades the CPU makes, also sim every game but your teams and then scores will appear on the scoreboards as if they were happening at that time period.

                          That's about it! (I think)
                          Sorry to ask but it is different for me to understand that all as my language is German, but how are the steps if I want to skip spring training and go straight into season?

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                          • nycyankeefan52
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 427

                            #43
                            Re: MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

                            Thanks for the great rosters. I just noticed Joey terdoslavich has no career stats. OSFMv3 had him with correct career stats.Why is he a CAP ? I find players from MLB14 & 15 with career stats and import them into the roster where needed. I have found a few v3 didn't use. Hybrid only has Terd so far.Thanks again.

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                            • msmith05
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 309

                              #44
                              Re: 2016 OSFM HYBRID V1 (official release thread)

                              Originally posted by Willard76
                              How I Use 30 Team Control

                              Many have asked, and for myself being a guy who in the past only like using single team control, it took some adjustment and playing around to find setting for 30 team control I liked.

                              1. Set up 2 Profiles, 1 for your team, 1 for CPU teams

                              2. Profile 1, I set everything up on Manual Control to start the season

                              3. Profile 2 is a mimic of Profile 1 for Spring Training, then I transfer everything but lineups and 40 man to AUTO, (this way you can move players up and down to your roster through spring training and not lose guys on waivers)

                              4. Start your franchise - leave CPU trades turned ON (more about this later)

                              5. Play spring training - no injuries will happen unless you turn on injuries, you can move about 5 players up and down per day, they will use up one of their options but you won't loose them to another team - just make sure you move the player to AAA before taking them off the 40 to make room for your call up

                              6. At the end of spring training make sure you set your proper 40 man roster, then change Profile 2 to Auto for all categories

                              7.Every day during the season, scan through proposed trades and veto any bad trades the CPU makes, also sim every game but your teams and then scores will appear on the scoreboards as if they were happening at that time period.

                              That's about it! (I think)
                              Quick question...This is the 1st time playing 30 team control. After spring trainng, do i have to adjust the CPU team lineups and rotations or do they stick?? Also skipping spring training screws things up? I dont want to play spring training if I can avoid it...thanks for a great roster and thanks for answering this

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                              • kamackeris76
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 1653

                                #45
                                Re: 2016 OSFM HYBRID V1 (official release thread)

                                Originally posted by chilidogbeefcake
                                This roster appears to have real contracts, should I turn off budgets for a 30 team control franchise I plan to play for many seasons?
                                Did anyone answer this?

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