Hello all,
I’m trying to come up with a good system for handling SP stamina in franchise mode over several seasons. I’ve had some good conversations about this via PM, but I’d like to create a thread about it so all can chime in and benefit from whatever solutions emerge.
In brief, the problem is this: after 5+ seasons in franchise mode, starter stamina across the league is significantly lower than the base SCEA/OSFM/Hybrid rosters. This is due to the fact that stamina never progresses for SP. Rookies who come in with a 70 grade or higher for stamina will be viable starters, but everyone else will be consigned to spot-starter or back-of-the-rotation status. What’s more, rookies in OSFM/Hybrid who currently have middling stamina but are projected to handle higher workloads as they progress will never actually achieve those projected outcomes.
To remedy this, I’m looking at a few options. I’d love folks’ input.
Option One:
Calculate the league average for MLB starter stamina and the number of players more than 10% above or below the mean. Use this information to do an annual sweep of the MLB starters to keep things in line with base roster averages over time. This idea is courtesy of WTNY.
What I like about it is that you can use specific data points to keep the league as a whole balanced. What I’m not sure about is how to deal with young pitchers in the MiLB who have been kept on innings counts, etc., but who are projected to land in the 1-3 slots in the rotation when they mature.
Option Two:
Add a specific number of points to every starting pitcher at the MLB and MiLB level once per year until the age-25 season.
What I like about this idea is that it allows young pitchers to grow into their roles. What I’m not sure about is how pitchers over age 25 would be dealt with.
Option Three:
Create a handful of archetypes that can be used to norm MLB, MiLB, and newly drafted SP. Use these archetypes to do one initial sweep of the league and then use them annually to edit drafted players.
What I like about this idea is that it’s a one-time thing for young pitchers who have yet to fully develop. If a guy projects as a certain type of player, he would just get the appropriate stamina point allocation once and then that would be it. Rookies would also get a one-time adjustment.
I’m partial to Option Three and have the following rough estimates for player archetypes and their stamina ranges. I’m interested in folks’ thoughts here:
* Front-end starters: 1st and 2nd types in the rotation, capable of pitching 200 innings. Stamina range of 90-95.
* Mid-rotation starters: fringe 2nd, 3rd, and fringe 3rd types in the rotation, capable of pitching 175 innings. Stamina range of 80-89.
* Back-end starters: 4th and 5th types in the rotation, capable of pitching 150 innings. Stamina range of 75-80
* Spot-starters: Capable of pitching 100 innings. Stamina range of 65-75
I know these are reductive and that stamina is modified by durability, but I’m trying to come up with something that’s loosely attached to reality but is also simple enough to be implemented without a ton of extra work. I know there are back-end guys who are also innings eaters, so I may go with something like:
* Workhorses
* Average Joes
* Fringe starters/spot starters
Any and all ideas are welcome.
I’m trying to come up with a good system for handling SP stamina in franchise mode over several seasons. I’ve had some good conversations about this via PM, but I’d like to create a thread about it so all can chime in and benefit from whatever solutions emerge.
In brief, the problem is this: after 5+ seasons in franchise mode, starter stamina across the league is significantly lower than the base SCEA/OSFM/Hybrid rosters. This is due to the fact that stamina never progresses for SP. Rookies who come in with a 70 grade or higher for stamina will be viable starters, but everyone else will be consigned to spot-starter or back-of-the-rotation status. What’s more, rookies in OSFM/Hybrid who currently have middling stamina but are projected to handle higher workloads as they progress will never actually achieve those projected outcomes.
To remedy this, I’m looking at a few options. I’d love folks’ input.
Option One:
Calculate the league average for MLB starter stamina and the number of players more than 10% above or below the mean. Use this information to do an annual sweep of the MLB starters to keep things in line with base roster averages over time. This idea is courtesy of WTNY.
What I like about it is that you can use specific data points to keep the league as a whole balanced. What I’m not sure about is how to deal with young pitchers in the MiLB who have been kept on innings counts, etc., but who are projected to land in the 1-3 slots in the rotation when they mature.
Option Two:
Add a specific number of points to every starting pitcher at the MLB and MiLB level once per year until the age-25 season.
What I like about this idea is that it allows young pitchers to grow into their roles. What I’m not sure about is how pitchers over age 25 would be dealt with.
Option Three:
Create a handful of archetypes that can be used to norm MLB, MiLB, and newly drafted SP. Use these archetypes to do one initial sweep of the league and then use them annually to edit drafted players.
What I like about this idea is that it’s a one-time thing for young pitchers who have yet to fully develop. If a guy projects as a certain type of player, he would just get the appropriate stamina point allocation once and then that would be it. Rookies would also get a one-time adjustment.
I’m partial to Option Three and have the following rough estimates for player archetypes and their stamina ranges. I’m interested in folks’ thoughts here:
* Front-end starters: 1st and 2nd types in the rotation, capable of pitching 200 innings. Stamina range of 90-95.
* Mid-rotation starters: fringe 2nd, 3rd, and fringe 3rd types in the rotation, capable of pitching 175 innings. Stamina range of 80-89.
* Back-end starters: 4th and 5th types in the rotation, capable of pitching 150 innings. Stamina range of 75-80
* Spot-starters: Capable of pitching 100 innings. Stamina range of 65-75
I know these are reductive and that stamina is modified by durability, but I’m trying to come up with something that’s loosely attached to reality but is also simple enough to be implemented without a ton of extra work. I know there are back-end guys who are also innings eaters, so I may go with something like:
* Workhorses
* Average Joes
* Fringe starters/spot starters
Any and all ideas are welcome.
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