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  • Caulfield
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 10986

    #2356
    Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

    Originally posted by potsey7
    Can someone PM me and explain what is going on with all this? Sorry I guess I'm old and I don't understand what is happening lol! They can't call it OSFM anymore but why does that mean the rosters can't be made under a different name by the same people? I've tried to read everything but I know I'm confused and probably uninformed so my apologies on the front end.
    One of the guys is working for ootp now but there will still be a full minors released to the vault by os members. As for next year I'm sure guys here will pull together then too. I even thought Knight still had a hand in this the last 2-3 years. Also it wasnt going to be called osfm anymore anyways FWIW. The great thing about carry-over saves is work doesn't have to wait till March to begin. If about 1800 CAPs need creating (thats my rough, very rough estimate) split that among 4 guys doing 450 players from January to March, your looking at creating 5 guys a day. Its an enormous undertaking but this community is hands down top notch when it comes to this type deal. I try not to take it for granted but these guys never cease to amaze. But for now, lets just enjoy 19's set when released. Thanks again gentlemen!
    Last edited by Caulfield; 02-21-2019, 07:26 PM.
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    • ninertravel
      MVP
      • Aug 2015
      • 4833

      #2357
      Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

      If the rosters are done and just need importing etc into 19 I am willing to help as well to cut the workload for you all it can get tiring doing that over and over again.

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      • ShowTyme15
        LADetermined
        • Jan 2004
        • 11853

        #2358
        Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

        Originally posted by ninertravel
        If the rosters are done and just need importing etc into 19 I am willing to help as well to cut the workload for you all it can get tiring doing that over and over again.
        At this point the only thing we really need is guys to help with faces and recreating some of the guys that will be missing. Can't do any of that until 19 drops though. We have some guys for faces and we may need a few more depending on the amount of work that has to be done.

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        • EmbraceThePace
          Rookie
          • Sep 2014
          • 300

          #2359
          Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

          Originally posted by Bondsfan
          Who knows. In a way, I hope it is, and that probably seems crazy coming from someone who has used OSFM rosters since the days of Knight and company. Here's why I feel this way.

          OSFM, while an amazing collaberation of content creators who spend hundreds upon hundreds of hours making the game better for all, is basically at its core a project that allows Sony San Diego to profit off of the free work of volunteers, while they are putting little effort into their side of things. Franchise is stagnant, their fake minor league rosters are junk, and the whole roster editing on console is a really cumbersome process.

          SDS faces the challenge that they can't put in real minor leaguers even if they wanted to. There is no minor league union, so they can't just go buy the rights to put in the real minor league players. That is true. So instead of trying to make excellent realistic fake minor league rosters filled with unique players, they have what they have now, a minor league full of players no one wants to play with. I'm not sure how much time they put into this, but I suspect its very little. Because they know the hardcore franchise players are going to use OSFM (which is done for them for free) and the people that play franchise but aren't that hardcore just aren't going to care if their fake minor league rosters stink anyways.

          So the presence of OSFM sells the game to many people, Sony profits off of OSFM even though they can't formally acknowledge its existance legally. Everyone involved is creating these rosters for free, spending months of their lives to do so every year. They are being exploited in a way.

          So what SHOULD Sony do? They can't embrace or endorse OSFM. They can't pay them. Obviously that would get Sony into a NCAA-like situation. IMO, its actually simple. They could respect the people that are basically, for free, creating content that sells their game for them. How difficult would it be for SDS to create a PC roster editor that would let you import/export rosters from game to PC and vice versa. Let the creators edit the rosters on PC. Allow roster projects to be shared amongst multiple creators on PC. Release the PC editor a month or two before the game actually comes out so the roster editors can get a head start. You could cut down so much of the time it takes to make these this way. If you are going to essentially profit of the free labor of your fans, at the very least make their jobs easier.

          For too long I think all of the great content creators here at OS who have worked on OSFM tirelessly have essentially allowed SDS to get a free pass with their own official rosters. If they are going to reap all the benefit, they need to improve their own rosters, or at least make the lives of the people that are improving their game for free as easy as possible.

          Anyways, thanks to all who have worked on OSFM over the years. You all, past and present, are an amazing group of people.


          I 100% agree with everything you said. I used to make draft classes for NBA 2K and it was the same situation. I spent tons of time making draft classes that got millions of downloads, people told me they only bought the game because of them. I knew I couldn’t get paid for them, but I was constantly asking for easy to implement features to make the process faster and easier.

          The community managers told me multiple times they loved my feedback and would personally pass them to the devs, yet year after year the system got even worse. Same exact thing with The Show. There’s absolutely no reason they can’t add in a feature to, say, carry over a roster file. It’s crazy.


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          • rhouserjr0614
            Rookie
            • Jan 2017
            • 495

            #2360
            OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

            Will these be updated for 2018, like after these FAs sign?


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            Last edited by rhouserjr0614; 02-22-2019, 09:49 PM.

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            • Caulfield
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 10986

              #2361
              Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

              Originally posted by GamingCeo27
              I got a question for roster people



              I am working on a complete roster set as we speak to use for the 18 version of the game as I will not be buying the new version. I am making all the moves currently in the bigs and making sure all teams 90 man rosters are of players listed on the roster resource site.


              Here is my one question. When i play with it eventually I use 30 team control and shut off having to consider budgets when making trades. But because I am making all contracts the real contracts like Machado has a 10 year 300 million and such. I wonder most teams will at the end of my first season be in the red. Will that stop me from being able to advance past season 1 or can I edit some setting to where that never matters cause that part of the game I really do not worry about when I play.
              Once youre done editing contracts I dont think most teams will be in the red because the competitive balance tax threshold will increase as you increase every teams budget, keeping most teams in the black. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
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              • ninertravel
                MVP
                • Aug 2015
                • 4833

                #2362
                Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

                Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                At this point the only thing we really need is guys to help with faces and recreating some of the guys that will be missing. Can't do any of that until 19 drops though. We have some guys for faces and we may need a few more depending on the amount of work that has to be done.
                Are you gonna make a missing players thread like you usually do each year? And note 50-50
                Players that may also not be in the game?

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                • forme95
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 3118

                  #2363
                  Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

                  Will options be more correct this year? It seems everyone either had 0 or 3 options. Or because of carryover franchises they have to be that way.
                  Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                  Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                  CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                  MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                  Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                  • ShowTyme15
                    LADetermined
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11853

                    #2364
                    Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

                    Originally posted by ninertravel
                    Are you gonna make a missing players thread like you usually do each year? And note 50-50
                    Players that may also not be in the game?
                    Already done.

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                    • mrm4481
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 43

                      #2365
                      Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

                      I’m lost with trying to read all the different posts regarding rosters and if they can still be made for this years game. So there will be a full minors roster for this year but not under the same osfm name? I guess I don’t get why the name matters? It’s the same people making it ? What about the roster that usually comes out late June-early July with the newly drafted players in June’s Mlb draft? Thanks in advance to everyone.

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                      • Therebelyell626
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 2892

                        #2366
                        Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

                        Originally posted by mrm4481
                        I’m lost with trying to read all the different posts regarding rosters and if they can still be made for this years game. So there will be a full minors roster for this year but not under the same osfm name? I guess I don’t get why the name matters? It’s the same people making it ? What about the roster that usually comes out late June-early July with the newly drafted players in June’s Mlb draft? Thanks in advance to everyone.
                        1.) yes, showtyme already confirmed there will be a 2019 roster set for the new game, and yes it will be done by the exact same guys under a different name. So you are correct it is no big deal.

                        2.) showtyme has stated there may be a 1.5 or an update later in the year but are not going to promise anything. With ridin's time limited this year there is essentially not as many people/resources to promise this to the community.

                        I for one am just glad they are getting us at least one more set this year before I have to retire the show for good.

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                        • ShowTyme15
                          LADetermined
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11853

                          #2367
                          Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

                          No need to worry guys. There will be a roster for 2019.

                          Couple of things to go over.

                          1. There won't be a set release date. When it's done it'll be posted.

                          2. Don't expect the roster to drop a week after release like before. Like i said we will be taking some time with the set for a couple of reasons. Trying to avoid mistakes and there will be a ton of missing players that we will have to create. This takes massive amounts time and people so be patient.

                          3. There maybe a release later on in the year, but as of now there is no plan for it. We will probably release Vol. 1 and call it a day from there.

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                          • The Kid 24
                            It's Show Time!
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 14768

                            #2368
                            Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

                            Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                            No need to worry guys. There will be a roster for 2019.

                            Couple of things to go over.

                            1. There won't be a set release date. When it's done it'll be posted.

                            2. Don't expect the roster to drop a week after release like before. Like i said we will be taking some time with the set for a couple of reasons. Trying to avoid mistakes and there will be a ton of missing players that we will have to create. This takes massive amounts time and people so be patient.

                            3. There maybe a release later on in the year, but as of now there is no plan for it. We will probably release Vol. 1 and call it a day from there.
                            Any idea which roster update will be used as the base?
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                            • ShowTyme15
                              LADetermined
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 11853

                              #2369
                              Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

                              Originally posted by The Kid 24
                              Any idea which roster update will be used as the base?
                              As long as there are no issues the default roster in 19 will be the base. If there are glaring issues then we have to wait for Sony to drop a mistake free roster, but i wouldn't hold my breath on that.

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                              • JCaponio
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 249

                                #2370
                                Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version” Available Now

                                Sorry if this is a dumb question. But if I were to download a version of OSFM18 from the vault today, edit it in my old copy of MLBTS18, and save it, would I be able to use this roster in MLBTS19 when it comes out?

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