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  • Rob_NYY
    Jedi Master
    • Dec 2004
    • 2495

    #61
    Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

    Originally posted by lilbigjwagz
    Sorry if I’m being a noob, but is there anywhere to see player ratings for MLBTS18 yet or do those have to be released via their videos?
    They used to release the "top 10 players at X position" screenshots, but I don't think they do that anymore. Any ratings you see on the streams or videos aren't final. Ratings are some of the last things to be finalized.

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    • Tmoneyballer
      Rookie
      • Oct 2017
      • 14

      #62
      Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

      Ridin, Not sure if this is the proper forum to post, but thought I'd introduce myself and possibly be of some assistance. First of all I've been an avid sports gamer for years (I'm 44 btw) dating back all the way to Microleague Baseball for some of the other dinosaurs on here. I'd played collegiately and just love baseball. I'm also a Portfolio Manager, so #'s and stats are kinda my thing. I've used the wonderful rosters from OFSM for years now and completely appreciate all the work you guys do here. But I read you intitial post where you talk about different scales being used for different teams, etc. What I do once the OFSM rosters are out is to take my spreadsheet, that I've been working on for literally years, and update all the ratings and attributes myself (to the tune of 45-60 hours of work) using the OFSM base. I think the elegance of my spreadhseets is that the ratings and attributes are formulaic, built & tested over years, and not subjective, even including difficult to define fielding & running stats (I use a hybrid of FanGraphs adbanced analytical stats for these). Everything is statistically based across the same template, with the only adjustements being downward adjustements based on a) level at which the stats were accumulated such that lower level league play (i.e minors, be it A, AA, AA, etc) values are discounted & b) ETA such that players with a longer-term ETA also get adjusted lower. Even for the Potential & ETA they are subjective as they are based each on Baseball America's beginning of the year view for ETA and potential using their 20-80 scale & top 100 ratings. I use a 3 running 3 year total of accumualted stats weighted 70/20/10 with the most recent year getting the largest weight (i.e 70%)& T-2 getting the least weight (i.e 10%). I also adjust for AB/IP for each year & at each level to take into consideration sample size. So for example if a player has exactly 600 ABs in each of the past 3 years, then his most recent yeear weight will be 70%*33% divided by the sum of 70%*33%, 20%*33% & 10%*33%, or 70%. But if a player only had 300 BAs this year, & 600 ABS in the prior 2 years each, then this year would only account for 53.8% of the toal ratings. I'm babblign now, but the point is if you are interested I'd love to share with you my spreadsheets for those inputting the edits for this year in an effort to create 100% objective consistency across the baord. If not, then I will once again wait for the incredible roster base from OFSM and then do the edits myself . The only caveat is that I would have to sned you the files on an SSD as the Hit file is whopping 50.78MB & the pitch file is a less cumbersome 32,94MB file, too big for email, and soemthing I've found even difficult for DropBox, even if zipped, given all the formulas with multiple precedents & dependent calcs. Anyway, though I'd offer my files, if interested. Best of luck and can't wait for OFSM to drop

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      • The Kid 24
        It's Show Time!
        • Jan 2007
        • 14768

        #63
        Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

        I see typing in paragraphs is not your thing.
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        • RidinDwnKingsley
          MVP
          • Nov 2003
          • 1838

          #64
          Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

          Originally posted by Tmoneyballer
          Ridin, Not sure if this is the proper forum to post, but thought I'd introduce myself and possibly be of some assistance. First of all I've been an avid sports gamer for years (I'm 44 btw) dating back all the way to Microleague Baseball for some of the other dinosaurs on here. I'd played collegiately and just love baseball. I'm also a Portfolio Manager, so #'s and stats are kinda my thing. I've used the wonderful rosters from OFSM for years now and completely appreciate all the work you guys do here. But I read you intitial post where you talk about different scales being used for different teams, etc. What I do once the OFSM rosters are out is to take my spreadsheet, that I've been working on for literally years, and update all the ratings and attributes myself (to the tune of 45-60 hours of work) using the OFSM base. I think the elegance of my spreadhseets is that the ratings and attributes are formulaic, built & tested over years, and not subjective, even including difficult to define fielding & running stats (I use a hybrid of FanGraphs adbanced analytical stats for these). Everything is statistically based across the same template, with the only adjustements being downward adjustements based on a) level at which the stats were accumulated such that lower level league play (i.e minors, be it A, AA, AA, etc) values are discounted & b) ETA such that players with a longer-term ETA also get adjusted lower. Even for the Potential & ETA they are subjective as they are based each on Baseball America's beginning of the year view for ETA and potential using their 20-80 scale & top 100 ratings. I use a 3 running 3 year total of accumualted stats weighted 70/20/10 with the most recent year getting the largest weight (i.e 70%)& T-2 getting the least weight (i.e 10%). I also adjust for AB/IP for each year & at each level to take into consideration sample size. So for example if a player has exactly 600 ABs in each of the past 3 years, then his most recent yeear weight will be 70%*33% divided by the sum of 70%*33%, 20%*33% & 10%*33%, or 70%. But if a player only had 300 BAs this year, & 600 ABS in the prior 2 years each, then this year would only account for 53.8% of the toal ratings. I'm babblign now, but the point is if you are interested I'd love to share with you my spreadsheets for those inputting the edits for this year in an effort to create 100% objective consistency across the baord. If not, then I will once again wait for the incredible roster base from OFSM and then do the edits myself . The only caveat is that I would have to sned you the files on an SSD as the Hit file is whopping 50.78MB & the pitch file is a less cumbersome 32,94MB file, too big for email, and soemthing I've found even difficult for DropBox, even if zipped, given all the formulas with multiple precedents & dependent calcs. Anyway, though I'd offer my files, if interested. Best of luck and can't wait for OFSM to drop


          Thanks but we have a base roster completed and rated.... feel free to redo it when it’s released but as far as us rerating everything again as far as I’m concerned that’s not happening as we have worked on this base since last year and I def don’t have time to invest in doing that. Like is said earlier feel free to do it yourself and good luck with it!


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          • Councilmann_Jamm
            Pro
            • Feb 2016
            • 745

            #65
            Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

            Ridin,

            Do you guys make CAPS for prospect that you don't incorporate into the OSFM?

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            • forme95
              MVP
              • Nov 2013
              • 3118

              #66
              Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

              Will you be doing with default contracts and/or real version?
              Really wish sports games played to ratings!
              Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
              CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
              MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
              Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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              • RidinDwnKingsley
                MVP
                • Nov 2003
                • 1838

                #67
                Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

                As of now it will be sonys default contracts in $$$ and correct years until we test more and see how it plays out... also we will be testing the progression of the prospects in regards to retirement , if prospects Rated A and B don’t retire and prospects with low potential do we may have to adjust portentously scale slightly but that’s a wait and see.... we will make sure it’s good before release


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                • rschech13
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 41

                  #68
                  Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

                  Thank you all so much for the work you put in. It makes our experience with this game that much better!

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                  • St.Rufus4th
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 9

                    #69
                    Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

                    Wait, so the team is bigger that’s doing this than in years past?

                    And it will come the first week of the season? With batting stances?

                    Man, you guys are killer.

                    We all need to donate beer money for y’all.

                    Lol.

                    Incredible.

                    I can’t wait!


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                    • RidinDwnKingsley
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 1838

                      #70
                      Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

                      Originally posted by St****fus4th
                      Wait, so the team is bigger that’s doing this than in years past?

                      And it will come the first week of the season? With batting stances?

                      Man, you guys are killer.

                      We all need to donate beer money for y’all.

                      Lol.

                      Incredible.

                      I can’t wait!


                      Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports


                      “Around the first week of the season”..... when it’s done it’s done


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                      • RedKing19
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 64

                        #71
                        Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

                        Originally posted by RidinDwnKingsley
                        “Around the first week of the season”..... when it’s done it’s done


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                        You guys ever need some help, I'm always ready. I make semi-decent CAP's lol and have been editing my own rosters for a long time now. Let me know and thanks for all the good work.
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                        • Caulfield
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 10986

                          #72
                          Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

                          Did I see somewhere Acuna is in 18 as a SCEA player?
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                          • boogeyman12
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 283

                            #73
                            Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

                            It's been a while since I played The Show (15).. Do you guys do the contract years/length? I don't expect you guys to do the salary.

                            I forgot you guys take on this.

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                            • Caulfield
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 10986

                              #74
                              Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

                              Originally posted by RidinDwnKingsley
                              As of now it will be sonys default contracts in $$$ and correct years until we test more and see how it plays out... also we will be testing the progression of the prospects in regards to retirement , if prospects Rated A and B don’t retire and prospects with low potential do we may have to adjust portentously scale slightly but that’s a wait and see.... we will make sure it’s good before release



                              Originally posted by boogeyman12
                              It's been a while since I played The Show (15).. Do you guys do the contract years/length? I don't expect you guys to do the salary.


                              I forgot you guys take on this.

                              _...._._..._.
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                              A Work in Progress

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                              • RidinDwnKingsley
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 1838

                                #75
                                Re: OSFM 2018 “Opening Day Version”

                                Was at about 6 different camps this week alone. Many minor league players have sent me or are sending me equip lists and diff things to add to OSFM so this will be probably the most detailed we have ever released.


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