The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

[Cavicchi]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

I scrapped using that stat anyhow, based on the feedback. Check a few posts up for the new sheet with the updated clutch ratings.

Clutch is now based on an average of a position player's hitting ratings and a pitcher's per 9 ratings.

I don't know what is meant by position player's hitting rating. But, in my opinion, if Clutch is to be anything, the player's RBI's should be used to determine clutch.

[Bunselpower32]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

Right, WTNY did use 60/50/40, I forgot because just about everyone in the majors had a 50 rating. I kinda jumped from him using 50 to me using 0. Honestly, using the 40/50/60 from his roster produced some of the finest baseball I've ever played.

I scrapped using that stat anyhow, based on the feedback. Check a few posts up for the new sheet with the updated clutch ratings.

Clutch is now based on an average of a position player's hitting ratings and a pitcher's per 9 ratings.

So if I understand right, this means that the better a hitter is, the better his clutch rating will be?

If so, I am not so sure about this. Clutch in this game augments ratings, and if a player already has a great rating that will produce a good statistical season, he will become better than that, leading to a virtually unstoppable force late in close games, even moreso if the pitcher is not at the elite level the hitter is.

I think what the often rotating and usually star-studded cycle of least-clutch players illustrates is that great players do not perform better in clutch situations, they are just better players, and that mathematically, if a player's outs over the course of a season align to always be in late game situations, the illusion of non-clutch comes forth.

[Cycloniac]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

Right, WTNY did use 60/50/40, I forgot because just about everyone in the majors had a 50 rating. I kinda jumped from him using 50 to me using 0. Honestly, using the 40/50/60 from his roster produced some of the finest baseball I've ever played.



So if I understand right, this means that the better a hitter is, the better his clutch rating will be?

If so, I am not so sure about this. Clutch in this game augments ratings, and if a player already has a great rating that will produce a good statistical season, he will become better than that, leading to a virtually unstoppable force late in close games, even moreso if the pitcher is not at the elite level the hitter is.

I think what the often rotating and usually star-studded cycle of least-clutch players illustrates is that great players do not perform better in clutch situations, they are just better players, and that mathematically, if a player's outs over the course of a season align to always be in late game situations, the illusion of non-clutch comes forth.

What I did was neutralize clutch entirely so that it's about matchups, rather than the clutch attribute.

Clutch has a very minimal impact, and since the argument is that clutch doesn't really exist, in a statistically reliable and measurable way, I wanted to make it less of a factor.

[Cavicchi]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

If what I'm looking at is your latest roster in the link above, Ohtani has no control or movement rating for his pitches. Also, for Ohtani, you have him with 3 pitch types, but he also has a curveball, though not thrown much a sinker/2-seamer.

[Cycloniac]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

If what I'm looking at is your latest roster in the link above, Ohtani has no control or movement rating for his pitches. Also, for Ohtani, you have him with 3 pitch types, but he also has a curveball, though not thrown much a sinker/2-seamer.

That's right

I'm waiting to update his pitch repertoire as late as possible. The pitch edits there are just from his MLB debut, so they aren't complete

[Bunselpower32]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

What I did was neutralize clutch entirely so that it's about matchups, rather than the clutch attribute.

Clutch has a very minimal impact, and since the argument is that clutch doesn't really exist, in a statistically reliable and measurable way, I wanted to make it less of a factor.

Ok, I must have misunderstood, which is why I asked. I wasn't sure I was on the same page but that clears it up.

If the Clutch rating is minimized (or even neutralized), you and I will have a long and fruitful lifetime of roster interactions.

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[patsen29]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

Ok, I must have misunderstood, which is why I asked. I wasn't sure I was on the same page but that clears it up.

If the Clutch rating is minimized (or even neutralized), you and I will have a long and fruitful lifetime of roster interactions.

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Interesting. I agree clutch is a lot of noise over the signal, but my take was that the best hitters in the clutch were mostly the best hitters, and used overall hitting as a (heavy) regression point.

The 40/50/60 method (or the 0) is a very interesting take on it. But one I feel gets screwed with my progression. Do we know how they use the rating in game?

[Cycloniac]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

Interesting. I agree clutch is a lot of noise over the signal, but my take was that the best hitters in the clutch were mostly the best hitters, and used overall hitting as a (heavy) regression point.

The 40/50/60 method (or the 0) is a very interesting take on it. But one I feel gets screwed with my progression. Do we know how they use the rating in game?

Clutch is only factored in when there are runners on base, and the effect is minimal

[Cycloniac]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

Significant update on progress coming soon.

[jeffzinn2004]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

Are you still going to be updating the spreadsheet as well? Finished off position players last night, only took me a week lol

[Cycloniac]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

Are you still going to be updating the spreadsheet as well? Finished off position players last night, only took me a week lol

A finished spreadsheet will be released soon

[jeffzinn2004]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

Best news I've heard all day. Your ratings really help, has my Rangers playing exactly like real life....as frustrating as that can be lol

[Cycloniac]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

Best news I've heard all day. Your ratings really help, has my Rangers playing exactly like real life....as frustrating as that can be lol

Even better news is coming

[jeffzinn2004]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

The suspense is killing me

[The Kid 24]

Re: The TrueSim Roster Project: MLB 18

Damn man! Clutch ratings look awesome!

Can't wait to get my hands on the fully complete ratings!