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  • lemarflacco
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    • Mar 2018
    • 1001

    #76
    Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

    Originally posted by ninertravel
    I completely call BS about the MLB contract thing. otherwise they wouldn't let us edit service time at all.

    You are right about the CAP thing however getting stats would be next to impossible you could sim random stats but you got no chance of getting them close to a 20 year of say Albert's career stats. what you gonna get stats from 2020 to 2040 then export him??

    Alot of theae sports games are just a roster update with some minor features added and features subtracted. the rosters are a BIG selling point for upgrading if you are a franchise guy because that is all about what we only get upgardes for

    why do you think so many threads talk about ratings or what equipment there is. players stances who now has a face scan who hasn't for 6 years.. it's because new upgraded rosters create talk.

    imagine if you let us edit everything on it. even add a facescan in.. add career stats. that talk would be gone

    you can't tell me the new rosters each year isn't about marketing.
    Bro you have got to give this up lmao If they really didn't want you to play last years game they would shut down the roster vault and all servers.

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    • Houston
      MVP
      • May 2003
      • 4724

      #77
      Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

      Again, why it wasn't fixed is because people like me who notice and do a thorough roster usually haven't made a list in a few years.

      Im the only person that I know of that provided those list and got those changes on those list corrected when I was doing them. Its been a few years that I've even bothered doing them anymore.

      The last time I did them it took 2 months for them to fix and took a lot of me griping to the right person.

      Again I said the same thing you guys are thinking to a lead designer I wouldn't half to keep asking for those changes if u allow me to edit myself this was 2018. Providing thorough wish list and that conversation that year sure enough thought maybe they would unlock it, but nope was disappointed and just gave up at this point where we get full editing on any player.

      Oh they will fix the stuff if u provide a list and proof, but they wanna be in control not give us that type of control even though we pay 70.00 for a game we half to ask to fix stuff they get paid to do.

      Years ago the head designer told me the boss loved my attention to detail, yet were about 2 consoles later and about 6 or 7 editions of the game later and still we are handcuffed.
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      • lemarflacco
        Banned
        • Mar 2018
        • 1001

        #78
        Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

        Originally posted by Houston
        Again, why it wasn't fixed is because people like me who notice and do a thorough roster usually haven't made a list in a few years.

        Im the only person that I know of that provided those list and got those changes on those list corrected when I was doing them. Its been a few years that I've even bothered doing them anymore.

        The last time I did them it took 2 months for them to fix and took a lot of me griping to the right person.

        Again I said the same thing you guys are thinking to a lead designer I wouldn't half to keep asking for those changes if u allow me to edit myself this was 2018. Providing thorough wish list and that conversation that year sure enough thought maybe they would unlock it, but nope was disappointed and just gave up at this point where we get full editing on any player.

        Oh they will fix the stuff if u provide a list and proof, but they wanna be in control not give us that type of control even though we pay 70.00 for a game we half to ask to fix stuff they get paid to do.

        Years ago the head designer told me the boss loved my attention to detail, yet were about 2 consoles later and about 6 or 7 editions of the game later and still we are handcuffed.
        So we can end this discussion, ..do you believe that the reason we cannot edit ages is just to MAKE us buy the newest version of game

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        • Therebelyell626
          MVP
          • Mar 2018
          • 2887

          #79
          Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

          Originally posted by Houston
          Again, why it wasn't fixed is because people like me who notice and do a thorough roster usually haven't made a list in a few years.

          Im the only person that I know of that provided those list and got those changes on those list corrected when I was doing them. Its been a few years that I've even bothered doing them anymore.

          The last time I did them it took 2 months for them to fix and took a lot of me griping to the right person.

          Again I said the same thing you guys are thinking to a lead designer I wouldn't half to keep asking for those changes if u allow me to edit myself this was 2018. Providing thorough wish list and that conversation that year sure enough thought maybe they would unlock it, but nope was disappointed and just gave up at this point where we get full editing on any player.

          Oh they will fix the stuff if u provide a list and proof, but they wanna be in control not give us that type of control even though we pay 70.00 for a game we half to ask to fix stuff they get paid to do.

          Years ago the head designer told me the boss loved my attention to detail, yet were about 2 consoles later and about 6 or 7 editions of the game later and still we are handcuffed.
          Yeah but I mean come on. It’s not like these guys ages aren’t readily available all over the internet. I think we can all agree that porting over players from a previous game is just lazy. If they could allow us to edit ages I could change all of the prospects ages in about an hour. I find it hard to believe even with their server issues SDS doesn’t have an hour to spare to fix the players ages

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          • ninertravel
            MVP
            • Aug 2015
            • 4833

            #80
            Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

            Originally posted by lemarflacco
            Bro you have got to give this up lmao If they really didn't want you to play last years game they would shut down the roster vault and all servers.
            Why the hell would I care about the servers and roster vault?? I have a years worth of rosters and I don't need the severs for franchise mode?

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            • ninertravel
              MVP
              • Aug 2015
              • 4833

              #81
              Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

              Originally posted by Houston
              Again, why it wasn't fixed is because people like me who notice and do a thorough roster usually haven't made a list in a few years.

              Im the only person that I know of that provided those list and got those changes on those list corrected when I was doing them. Its been a few years that I've even bothered doing them anymore.

              The last time I did them it took 2 months for them to fix and took a lot of me griping to the right person.

              Again I said the same thing you guys are thinking to a lead designer I wouldn't half to keep asking for those changes if u allow me to edit myself this was 2018. Providing thorough wish list and that conversation that year sure enough thought maybe they would unlock it, but nope was disappointed and just gave up at this point where we get full editing on any player.

              Oh they will fix the stuff if u provide a list and proof, but they wanna be in control not give us that type of control even though we pay 70.00 for a game we half to ask to fix stuff they get paid to do.

              Years ago the head designer told me the boss loved my attention to detail, yet were about 2 consoles later and about 6 or 7 editions of the game later and still we are handcuffed.

              Exactly//

              at least you had a win getting service time put in.. we can all thank you for that win.

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              • lemarflacco
                Banned
                • Mar 2018
                • 1001

                #82
                Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

                Originally posted by ninertravel
                Why the hell would I care about the servers and roster vault?? I have a years worth of rosters and I don't need the severs for franchise mode?
                Th point i am trying to get through to you lol is that they didn't choose not put in an ability to change ages in game to make franchise players (which I am sure is a small part of buyers now) have to but the new game. Especially considering they didn't change the ages in the new game. so in reality, they did nothing to make you personally buy the new game.

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                • IUThor40
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                  • Jul 2006
                  • 173

                  #83
                  Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

                  Originally posted by lemarflacco
                  Th point i am trying to get through to you lol is that they didn't choose not put in an ability to change ages in game to make franchise players (which I am sure is a small part of buyers now) have to but the new game. Especially considering they didn't change the ages in the new game. so in reality, they did nothing to make you personally buy the new game.


                  No, but they consistently refer to “franchise improvements” or updates in their game rollouts, so they are still trying to get franchise players in.

                  So the ****** thing is, they reel in guys who love baseball, who want to take teams over for years, and they market it. But then you get the game and they’ve adjusted enough **** incorrectly, or ignored enough, that it only makes sense to play DD.

                  They are intentionally rigging the game to get extra $$$, and screwing over the fanbase that made their game. It’s nauseating that they continue to do this. They’ve killed the franchise mode of the game where franchise is the most important and immersive.


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                  • IUThor40
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                    • Jul 2006
                    • 173

                    #84
                    Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

                    Originally posted by lemarflacco
                    Th point i am trying to get through to you lol is that they didn't choose not put in an ability to change ages in game to make franchise players (which I am sure is a small part of buyers now) have to but the new game. Especially considering they didn't change the ages in the new game. so in reality, they did nothing to make you personally buy the new game.


                    You’re just going to continue to blindly support the devs, pat their backs, and give them all a pass, though. You’re either a super troll, or a relative. Or you work for SDS.


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                    • lemarflacco
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                      • Mar 2018
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                      #85
                      Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

                      Originally posted by IUThor40
                      You’re just going to continue to blindly support the devs, pat their backs, and give them all a pass, though. You’re either a super troll, or a relative. Or you work for SDS.


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                      Bro what are you talking about? When did I "pat a dev on the back". You're emotionally talking about wether you are happy with the game. We were having a debate on wether SDS "intentionally does not allow you to edit ages of players in franchise as a deep sewn marketing ploy to make you buy next years game".

                      I believe they should do what to have to do to make these thing editable and they dropped the ball by not doing so . I think its impossible this is a marketing ploy because they didn't even edit the ages themselves this year.

                      And sorry for your experience but I have not been inclined to touch dd. Ill be perfectly fine with playing my franchise. Not sure if it's okay with you for me enjoy the game.

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                      • dpower15
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 1029

                        #86
                        Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

                        They should add the ability to adjust height and weight also. The weights are way off for a lot of guys. A couple examples, Ryan Vilade in the Rockies system is listed on mlb.com as 226, but in game is only 194. Shea Langeliers listed 205 but in game 190. I’m sure there are a ton more.

                        Basically all the prospects with a face scan will look super skinny because their weights seem to be based on whatever they were at the time they were drafted, and not updated as they bulk up as a pro.


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                        • flamingoezz
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 122

                          #87
                          Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

                          There isn't some master plan to get franchise users to buy the game by screwing up the rosters..

                          The truth is, it's not that they care so much about the franchise player that they want to retain us. They care so little that they don't pay attention to any of the details.

                          This is literally a fix they could pay a college student with half a brain to fix in an hour or two, especially when the community provides the list of players needing adjustment. They could also unlock the ability for us to change it -- but realistically, the issue just doesn't appear on their radar.

                          Even in a year where franchise supposedly got a ground-up logic overhaul, the game feels unchanged for franchise players outside of UI differences (which are arguably worse).

                          If SDS' plan here is to keep us around by making an unfixable roster, the person whose idea it is should be fired...I regret buying this year and I am really losing interest in the game. It is very stale -- draft is same, commentary is the same, same broken logic -- progression/regression, schedules, no 3-team trades (c'mon,this should have been a feature 10 years ago).

                          It is sad that 3 weeks into a late release year we still don't have a playable roster.

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                          • IUThor40
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 173

                            #88
                            Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

                            Originally posted by flamingoezz
                            There isn't some master plan to get franchise users to buy the game by screwing up the rosters..



                            The truth is, it's not that they care so much about the franchise player that they want to retain us. They care so little that they don't pay attention to any of the details.



                            This is literally a fix they could pay a college student with half a brain to fix in an hour or two, especially when the community provides the list of players needing adjustment. They could also unlock the ability for us to change it -- but realistically, the issue just doesn't appear on their radar.



                            Even in a year where franchise supposedly got a ground-up logic overhaul, the game feels unchanged for franchise players outside of UI differences (which are arguably worse).



                            If SDS' plan here is to keep us around by making an unfixable roster, the person whose idea it is should be fired...I regret buying this year and I am really losing interest in the game. It is very stale -- draft is same, commentary is the same, same broken logic -- progression/regression, schedules, no 3-team trades (c'mon,this should have been a feature 10 years ago).



                            It is sad that 3 weeks into a late release year we still don't have a playable roster.


                            I’m not arguing the terrible rosters are the ploy to keep franchise guys in. I’m saying the constant reference to franchise improvements prior to release continue to pull us in, in the hope that it’s finally back to something good. It’s good marketing. But then they are lazy with rosters, only cater to DD crowd with rosters, and make it darn near impossible to create a good simulation/experience in franchise.

                            And we still want to play baseball, so if franchise sucks, then we’ll likely get sucked into DD. And some people will then likely get into spending $$ in DD. And they’ve accomplished their goal.

                            The lack of improvements or just working features to support franchise is ok with SDS - it funnels players to DD. And they just rake in the money.


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                            • Rmiok222
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                              • Nov 2015
                              • 3129

                              #89
                              Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

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                              This is exactly why this will never be fixed. Me commenting on an SDS post of a prospect card and these are the responses I get.


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                              • Rmiok222
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                                • Nov 2015
                                • 3129

                                #90
                                Re: They have so many top prospects ages wrong

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                                And another “who plays franchise”

                                We are fighting a losing battle my friends.


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