MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

[MBMavs20]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

Hey brother. Did 23 change how edits work. Some guys I cannot get MPH to where it needs to be. Ex Felix Bautista cannot get his sinker upto 99. I know in the past once all changes were made the numbers would be where they need to be. But I've tried everything and can't get the sinker upto 99. All other MPH on his pitches ate correct. Also on some guys cant get MPH down low enough and on some guys circle change I can move it 0 to 99 and MPH will not change. It will effect other pitch speeds but not the circle change. Hope that made sense.

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I know how you feel. This has been an issue for years.

If you can't get his Sinker up to where you want, I would just switch to a 2 Seam. The MPH on that usually goes higher than the Sinker.

Change ups are the toughest. In the past, if you created a player or edited a generic one, you could only get the MPH on their Circle-Change to 84 MPH. Regular players top off at 88 MPH and won't go higher. If that's the case, I use a Forkball because it has similar movement to the Circle Change and you can get it up over 90 MPH.

[dnr0720]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

I know how you feel. This has been an issue for years.



If you can't get his Sinker up to where you want, I would just switch to a 2 Seam. The MPH on that usually goes higher than the Sinker.



Change ups are the toughest. In the past, if you created a player or edited a generic one, you could only get the MPH on their Circle-Change to 84 MPH. Regular players top off at 88 MPH and won't go higher. If that's the case, I use a Forkball because it has similar movement to the Circle Change and you can get it up over 90 MPH.

I appreciate it brother and the work you put into doing these.

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[JaFFiTh]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

Thanks Dowie.

I posted my control formula a couple of years ago on one of my pitch edit threads.

For control, I split the pitchers into starters and relievers. I take the best strike percentage for a starter and reliever in the Majors from that season.

Then, I divide strike percentage by ball percentage and multiply that by the best strike percentage for a starter/reliever.

For example, in 2022 Kevin Gausman led all starters in strike percentage with 70%.

If I take Justin Verlander's 4 seam from 2022, he threw 24% for strikes and 30% for balls.

So, 24 divided by 30 times 70 = 56 would be his control rating on his 4 Seam.

I usually will go 95 for the high and 20 for the low. If the pitcher has a low number of pitches I try and adjust accordingly. So, if a pitcher threw 10 sliders and 8 of them were for strikes, I don't want to give him a control rating that is too high. Unrealistic to me.

As for break, I came up with a formula years ago. If a 4 Seam has over 4 inches of horizontal movement, I go with a Running Fastball. If a Curveball has over 6 inches of horizontal movement, I go with a Sweeping Curveball. Splitter has more horizontal movement, I go with a forkball. If a Slider has over 5 inches of horizontal movement I go with a Slurve. I also prefer 2 Seam over Sinkers because most Sinkers have more horizontal movement then vertical movement.

Even if you give a pitch a 0 break rating, it will still movement a little bit so I used that as a starting point.

Everyone likes to do pitch edits differently so it's really up to the player. I think my edits work well with MLB and I enjoy making them.

Sorry for my babbling. I should just post a video. LOL

I'm actually glad you typed this out over doing a video unless it has caption (Deaf gamer here)

Any formula for the movement?

[MBMavs20]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

Movement is a little tougher.

For example, if you set the break rating to zero on a Curveball, it will still move about 1-2 inches. So I created a chart and just worked backwards.

I use Brooksbaseball.net to make my edits.

For a Fastball, if it has 4 or more inches of horizontal movement, I go with a Running Fastball.

If a Sinker has more horizontal movement than Vertical movement, I use a 2 Seam.

Same with Change-ups: more horizontal movement, I use a Circle Change.

Same with Forkballs and Splitters.

If a Curveball has less than 1 1/2 inches of horizontal movement, I use a 12-6 Curve.

If a Curveball has more than 6 inches of horizontal movement, I use a Sweeping Curveball.

Pitcherlist.com is a good website to use because they have videos of what pitches the pitchers use and a video of it as well so can see the movement of each pitch.

[lorak]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

Great to see your Pitch Edits updated.

[JaFFiTh]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

Was looking at your movement, and noticed you posted Circle Change and Sinker to have more vertical movement than horizontal while I believe it should be the opposite. The lower movement means more drop, higher means straight or rising. I found this chart online, just something to look into. (this is RHP chart btw but you get the idea)

x - horizontal
z - vertical

Pitch avg(pfx_x) avg(pfx_z) Velocity
Four-seam -4.2 8.9 92.4
Two-seam -8.0 6.1 91.9
Sinker -8.4 4.6 90.9
Cutter 1.4 5.8 88.6
Forkball -6.5 4.4 85.1
Slider 2.8 1.2 84.3
Split-Finger-5.8 2.6 84.1
Change -6.7 4.1 83.7
Knuckle Curve 4.9 -6.1 79.7
Curveball 6.1 -5.8 77.8
Knuckler 0.1 1.5 75.9
Eephus 4.3 -5.3 65.3

[MBMavs20]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

2023 debuts & guys who have been out of league a bit. Also, I know you said you’ll wait a little just wanted a list for you that I can update.

Bal:
Grayson Rodriguez

NYY:
Jhony Brito

TB:
Kevin Kelly

CHWS:
Jesse Scholtens

CLE:
Tim Herrin

DET:
Mason Englert

OAK:
Shintaro Fujinami

ATL:
Dylan Dodd
Jared Schuster
Michael Tonkin (pitched 2017)

MIA:
Jeff Lindgren

NYM:
Kodai Senga

WSH:
Hobie Harris
Thaddeus Ward

MIL:
Gus Varland

PIT:
Jose Hernandez

AZ:
Scott McGough
Carlos Vargas

SDG:
Brent Honeywell (pitched 4 innings ‘21)
Jose Lopez

All pitchers have been added to the spreadsheet. They are listed at the end under the Giants.

The last player listed for the Padres, Jose Lopez, I couldn't find him. Is that a typo?

[KKralle7277]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

All pitchers have been added to the spreadsheet. They are listed at the end under the Giants.

The last player listed for the Padres, Jose Lopez, I couldn't find him. Is that a typo?

My bad, he was a Rule V pick by them and I thought I saw he made their roster but apparently he didn’t. Anyway, here are some more debuts:

TB:
Taj Bradley
Braden Bristo

CLE:
Peyton Battenfield

MIN:
Brent Headrick (called up hasn’t debuted as of 4/18)

CIN:
Casey Legumina
Levi Stoudt (debut 4/19)

[MBMavs20]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

My bad, he was a Rule V pick by them and I thought I saw he made their roster but apparently he didn’t. Anyway, here are some more debuts:

TB:
Taj Bradley
Braden Bristo

CLE:
Peyton Battenfield

MIN:
Brent Headrick (called up hasn’t debuted as of 4/18)

CIN:
Casey Legumina
Levi Stoudt (debut 4/19)

I just updated the list except for Headrick and Stoudt. I will add them once they get some innings.

BTW, my edits are based on Major League Data. Not fall ball, winter ball, minors, etc... Just regular season and post season.

[KKralle7277]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

I just updated the list except for Headrick and Stoudt. I will add them once they get some innings.

BTW, my edits are based on Major League Data. Not fall ball, winter ball, minors, etc... Just regular season and post season.

Yes I know that 100%, in past years you weren’t so quick to reply, so I’d put any rookies who were up or set to debut and just keep editing them each day until you had seen it.

Here is the updated debut list as of now:

BOS
Joe Jacques (June 13 debut)
Chris Murphy (June 7 debut)
Brandon Walter (June 22 debut)

NYY
Matt Krook (June 16 debut)
Randy Vasquez (May 26 debut)

TB
Joe LaSorsa (May 29 debut)

CHWS
Sammy Peralta (May 4 debut)

CLE
Logan Allen (April 23 debut; also there are two Logan Allen’s)
Tanner Bibee (April 26 debut)
Chris Vallimont (July 3 debut -debuted on orioles then claimed by Clev)
Gavin Williams (June 21 debut)

DET
Reese Olson (June 2 debut)
Brendan White (June 14 debut)

KC
Austin Cox (May 4 debut)
Alec Marsh (debut 6/30)
James McArthur (debut 6/29)

MIN
Jordan Balazovic (June 18 debut)
Brent Headrick (April 19 debut)

HOU
Shawn Dubin (June 19 debut)
JP France (May 6 debut)

LAA
Sam Bachman (May 26 debut)
Kolton Ingram (June 17 debut)
Ben Joyce (May 29 debut)
Victor Mederos (debut 6/30)

OAK
Garret Acton (May 14 debut)
Lucas Erceg (May 19 debut)
Angel Felipe (July 7 debut)
Hogan Harris (April 15 debut;missed him before)
Luis Medina (April 26 debut)
Mason Miller (April 19 debut)
Freddy Tarnok (July 15 debut; pitched .2 Innings last year)

SEA
Ty Adcock (June 12 debut)
Bryce Miller (May 2 debut)
Devin Sweet (July 20 debut)
Juan Then (May 6 debut)
Bryan Woo (June 3 debut)

TEX
Grant Anderson (May 30 debut)
Cody Bradford (May 15 debut)
Alex Speas (July 20 debut)
Owen White (June 13 debut)

ATL
Mike Soroka (hasn’t pitched in mlb in couple years)

MIA
Eury Perez (May 12 debut)
George Soriano (April 16 debut)

NYM
Grant Hartwig (June 19 debut)
Zach Muckenhirn (May 3 debut)
Josh Walker (May 16 debut)

WSH
Jose Ferrer (7/1 debut)
Amos Willingham (6/28 debut)

CHC
Daniel Palencia (7/4 debut)

CIN
Ricky Karcher (June 12 debut)
Eduardo Salazar (May 24 debut)
Levi Stoudt (April 19 debut)
Brandon Williamson (May 16 debut)
Jake Wong (June 26 debut)
Randy Wynne (June 25 debut)

MIL
Clayton Andrews (7/1 debut)

PIT
Osvaldo Bido (June 14 debut)
Cody Bolton (April 29 debut)
Carmen Mlodzinski (June 16 debut)
Quinn Priester (July 17 debut)

STL
Guillermo Zuñiga (May 2 debut)

AZ
Justin Martinez (July 7 debut)
Brandon Pfaadt (May 3 debut)

COL
Blair Calvo (May 30 debut)
Karl Kauffmann (May 19 debut)
Riley Pint (May 17 debut)

LAD
Bryan Hudson (June 17 debut)
Bobby Miller (May 24 debut)
Nick Robertson (June 7 debut)
Emmet Sheehan (June 16 debut)
Gavin Stone (May 3 debut)

SDG
Tom Cosgrove (April 29 debut)
Alek Jacob (July 15 debut)
Matt Waldron (June 24 debut)

SFG
Tristan Beck (April 20 debut)
Ryan Walker (May 21 debut)
Keaton Winn (June 13 debut)

[Madden08PCgmr]

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SEA
Ty Adcock (June 12 debut)
Bryce Miller (May 2 debut)
Devin Sweet (July 20 debut)
Juan Then (May 6 debut)
Bryan Woo (June 3 debut)

Emerson Hancock - Aug 9

.. thanks for the amazing work, this and every year!

[lorak]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

@MBMavs20,
Do you plan to add full pitch edits for the 2023 season as well as starting the pitch edits for 2024?

[MBMavs20]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

Yes, I will release my pitch edits for 2023 sometime next month. Just don't have the free time I used to.

I am a teacher and our spring break is March 11th-15th so I will be working on them during that week and hopefully they will be ready by opening day.

[lorak]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

Yes, I will release my pitch edits for 2023 sometime next month. Just don't have the free time I used to.

I am a teacher and our spring break is March 11th-15th so I will be working on them during that week and hopefully they will be ready by opening day.

Excellent news!!
Thank you very much for your hard work!

[Double Deuce]

Re: MBMavs20 Pitch Edits 2023

Hey MBMavs20, just wondering if there's any update on these? Hoping to incorporate them into my franchise Thanks!