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  • Cycloniac
    Man, myth, legend.
    • May 2009
    • 6496

    #1

    Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

    One thing I've noticed this year is that it feels like the CPU doesn't care about pitch counts for starters very much. It feels like now, performance is all that matters. If a guy has allowed 4 earned runs in 3 innings, but has only thrown 60 pitches, the CPU has a short leash on him. In real life, I feel like he'd get at least up to 80 pitches before getting yanked.

    Anyone have any consistent luck getting the CPU starters to throw 90-100 pitches? If so, which sliders have worked for you?

    I feel like starter stamina slider doesn't matter as much as before, and I'm currently using hook at 3 or 4.
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  • jcar0725
    "ADAPT OR DIE"
    • Aug 2010
    • 3817

    #2
    Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

    There are a couple of factors at play here.

    1) The show tries to emulate the current MLB game, in that starters typically don't go as deep into games as they used to.

    2) Some starters in the show have terribly low stamina attribute ratings. A starter in the show that has a stamina attribute of 70 or lower isn't ever going go much further than the 4th or 5th inning without being completely gassed.

    For my franchise, I only bumped up the stamina slider to 6, I don't want to go any higher than that. And for those starters around the league with a stamina rating that is too low, I just bumped them up to at least 75 to get them deeper into games.
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    • bryanm1982
      MVP
      • Nov 2016
      • 3782

      #3
      Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

      I had to try hook at 1 to get the CPU starter to go 90+ pitches. The Braves had a 8-3 lead in the 6th inning and I hit a HR off of Reynaldo Lopez to make it 8-4. They then took him out and he was at 101 pitches and was on red. I had SP stamina at 6 and his stamina rating was 93.

      But yeah, stamina slider doesn’t really affect anything. And if you even raise their pitcher stamina to 90, they still get yellow at around 75 pitches.
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      • bryanm1982
        MVP
        • Nov 2016
        • 3782

        #4
        Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

        Here are the pitch counts from the CPU with hook at 1 in my last 5 games.

        Alcantara 82
        Sale 87
        Schwellenbach 87
        Lopez 101
        Cabrera 84
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        • BrewCrew16
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          • Mar 2023
          • 547

          #5
          Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

          Yeah I put hook at 4 and was considering 3. How does it affect the relief pitchers being pulled?

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          • bryanm1982
            MVP
            • Nov 2016
            • 3782

            #6
            Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

            Originally posted by BrewCrew16
            Yeah I put hook at 4 and was considering 3. How does it affect the relief pitchers being pulled?

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            I been raising it back to 5 after they pull the SP.
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            • NightOwl
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              • Sep 2013
              • 332

              #7
              Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

              Originally posted by bryanm1982
              Here are the pitch counts from the CPU with hook at 1 in my last 5 games.

              Alcantara 82
              Sale 87
              Schwellenbach 87
              Lopez 101
              Cabrera 84
              Curious on what month of the season you’re in.
              In past iterations, the starters stamina got progressively better as the months went on I felt like. Is that true this year? Haven’t finished April yet in any of my franchises so every starter is red by 75-80 pitches.

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              • bryanm1982
                MVP
                • Nov 2016
                • 3782

                #8
                Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

                Originally posted by NightOwl
                Curious on what month of the season you’re in.
                In past iterations, the starters stamina got progressively better as the months went on I felt like. Is that true this year? Haven’t finished April yet in any of my franchises so every starter is red by 75-80 pitches.
                This was in the beginning of May.
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                • BrewCrew16
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2023
                  • 547

                  #9
                  Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

                  Originally posted by bryanm1982
                  Here are the pitch counts from the CPU with hook at 1 in my last 5 games.



                  Alcantara82

                  Sale87

                  Schwellenbach 87

                  Lopez 101

                  Cabrera84
                  Those numbers look pretty good, assuming they were left in because they were pitching well? Ill try 1 in my next session.

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                  • bryanm1982
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 3782

                    #10
                    Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

                    Originally posted by BrewCrew16
                    Those numbers look pretty good, assuming they were left in because they were pitching well? Ill try 1 in my next session.

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                    Off the top of my head I remember Alcantara gave up 5 runs in 5 IP.

                    Sale did good I remember.
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                    • BrewCrew16
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                      • Mar 2023
                      • 547

                      #11
                      Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

                      Back to back games vs aces, interesting but better.
                      Burnes was pulled after 72 pitches in the 5th. I had runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and was up 2-0. Only 2 hits, but 3 walks. He was making me grind. They put in a lefty LRP and of course it's a much easier time. Didn't like that one from the CPU.
                      Skubal was excellent. Threw 100 pitches exactly in 5.0 IP. 8Ks, 1hit, 4 walks. Couldn't square him up. He was right around the edges all game. His energy meter was completely gone at this point.

                      I'm going to increase cpu starter stamina to 7 for a few games along with 1 hook.

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                      • PRiMETiME559_ps4
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 48

                        #12
                        Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

                        Originally posted by BrewCrew16
                        Back to back games vs aces, interesting but better.
                        Burnes was pulled after 72 pitches in the 5th. I had runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and was up 2-0. Only 2 hits, but 3 walks. He was making me grind. They put in a lefty LRP and of course it's a much easier time. Didn't like that one from the CPU.
                        Skubal was excellent. Threw 100 pitches exactly in 5.0 IP. 8Ks, 1hit, 4 walks. Couldn't square him up. He was right around the edges all game. His energy meter was completely gone at this point.

                        I'm going to increase cpu starter stamina to 7 for a few games along with 1 hook.

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                        I just played against German Marquez who had 81 stamina and went yellow at his 71st pitch with CPU starter stamina at 7. Completed five innings, finished the inning with just under 80 pitches I think. Think he walked three and gave up two runs so he probably could have came back out for the 6th but they didn’t let him. I’m with some of the other folks on the forum. Doesn’t seem like CPU starter stamina is doing a single thing to increase the length of the starters. I went through and made the minimum starter stamina to 85 instead. Rather try that than constantly fiddle with a stamina slider that is proving inconsistent.

                        I also tried to hook slider at 1 a few games prior and didn’t care for the outcome. They gassed their starter and I knew it was going to effect the next start for them in sim with him not having full stamina for the next outing.
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                        • BrewCrew16
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2023
                          • 547

                          #13
                          Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

                          Originally posted by PRiMETiME559_ps4
                          I just played against German Marquez who had 81 stamina and went yellow at his 71st pitch with CPU starter stamina at 7. Completed five innings, finished the inning with just under 80 pitches I think. Think he walked three and gave up two runs so he probably could have came back out for the 6th but they didn’t let him. I’m with some of the other folks on the forum. Doesn’t seem like CPU starter stamina is doing a single thing to increase the length of the starters. I went through and made the minimum starter stamina to 85 instead. Rather try that than constantly fiddle with a stamina slider that is proving inconsistent.

                          I also tried to hook slider at 1 a few games prior and didn’t care for the outcome. They gassed their starter and I knew it was going to effect the next start for them in sim with him not having full stamina for the next outing.
                          Yes I just noticed with 7 stamina that flaherty halfway in yellow around 70 pitches. I'll jack it up to 8 and see, but I think you're right. The stamina slider for human works, but cpu appears to be broken...unless the rp stamina needs to match it or they are switched?

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                          • bryanm1982
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 3782

                            #14
                            Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

                            Originally posted by BrewCrew16
                            Yes I just noticed with 7 stamina that flaherty halfway in yellow around 70 pitches. I'll jack it up to 8 and see, but I think you're right. The stamina slider for human works, but cpu appears to be broken...unless the rp stamina needs to match it or they are switched?

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                            I never thought of that The CPU is very good at taking the pitcher out once the tying run gets on base. Even when they are doing great.

                            I have CPU SP and RP stamina at 6.
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                            • bryanm1982
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 3782

                              #15
                              Re: Pitch Counts in MLBTS 25

                              Eduardo Rodriguez has stamina rating at 87. He was yellow at 80 pitches. They took him out with 2 outs in the 6th with a runner on 1st in a 5-1 game.

                              93 pitches
                              5.2 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 BB 4 K

                              That was hook at 1 and stamina at 6.
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