Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike %

[Mrt078]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I am really enjoying these sliders. I never tried any sliders using classic pitching and I decided to give it a shot this year and I think I will never go back to meter again. I am now 10 games in using these sliders and the only problem I have is to hit HR. I am patient at the plate, getting into hitters count but never seems to be able to blast 1 out of the park. I have only homer once in 10 games so far. Any advice?


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[tonyfire2001]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I am really enjoying these sliders. I never tried any sliders using classic pitching and I decided to give it a shot this year and I think I will never go back to meter again. I am now 10 games in using these sliders and the only problem I have is to hit HR. I am patient at the plate, getting into hitters count but never seems to be able to blast 1 out of the park. I have only homer once in 10 games so far. Any advice?


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What team are you using? Cause I have played nearly all the teams and have seen it all. The HR will come it might be that your team is starting out Cold. I would just give it a little time.

[Mrt078]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

What team are you using? Cause I have played nearly all the teams and have seen it all. The HR will come it might be that your team is starting out Cold. I would just give it a little time.

I am playing as the Dodgers. Are you usually hitting your homer with the power swing and are you using the directionnal?


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[extremeskins04]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

First game using new OSFM roster using these sliders. Started new franchise with the Twins.

Minnesota 18 21 0
Detroit 4 10 1

Yep, won 18-4. Crazy game.

Starting Pitching:
Phil Hughes (W, 1-0): 6 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 7 SO

David Price (L, 0-1) 4 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB, 1 SO


I absolutely destroyed the Detroit bullpen. I got 5 home runs. 1 Dozier, 1 Hunter, 2 for Vargas, and 1 for Schafer

I had to double check the sliders to make sure they were set correctly cause I just kept hitting well. Was crazy.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Guys,

The last time I posted, I had told everybody that I had lost SEVEN consecutive games. I've been playing this game a long time, and I can only think of one other time where I've lost 5+ games in a row. This game has a way of humbling you. Just when you think that you've "mastered" it, you hit a slump in the worst kind of way.

Case in point, during the first 15 games of testing, my record was 11-4. I then went on my losing streak, which brings me to a .500 record for my test games up to this point. Because of that, I put testing on hold shortly after I made my last post. I spent the majority of Saturday evening and half of Sunday in batting practice. It's just like when you go through a hitting slump in real-life. You go to the cages to try to figure out what needs adjustments.

Once the OSFM rosters dropped yesterday afternoon, I immediately went into full set-up mode for my franchise. I didn't finish until about 10 PM, and I decided to play the first game of my Dodgers season against the Padres....because what's the fun in spending all that time setting up the rosters, if you can't enjoy one day before you go to bed, right? LOL. I was able to break my losing streak. I beat the Padres 5-0, behind a solid outing from Clayton Kershaw, and my bullpen stepped up as well. It looks like the time spent in batting practice paid off, because I felt more comfortable at the plate, and my approach was much better than it was during the losing streak. I was too tired to post stats, but I will say that the Padres pounded the crap out of the strike zone. Luckily, I was able to do some damage with some big RBI hits from Gonzalez and Uribe.

I know when we adjust sliders, we tend to think that we're on the wrong track whenever the game (or a few) doesn't play the way we think it should. That negative result immediately makes us think that slider adjustments are needed. Sometimes, it takes a slice of humble pie, and some time in BP to get back on the right track. Again, these sliders are set up with a specific statistical goal in mind, and right now, they're about as close to real-life as I can get them, so I don't feel like any slider changes are warranted.

I will roll with these in my Franchise, and I will continue to monitor the things that we didn't really nail down in testing (Injuries, Base Stealing, etc.). But overall, these sliders produce some damn good simulation baseball. I'm excited to (hopefully) actually finish a 162 game season this year. I will continue to post stats/box scores from my franchise, just to keep the thread alive. I encourage others to do the same. I will always make myself available for questions and feedback.

Thanks to all who have contributed to this set. I've said this many times before, but your input and feedback really helped make these sliders what they are.

Cheers.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

As I mentioned before I was having a horrible time hitting and striking out. I changed my camera angle to the Pitcher Centered. I know it's crazy hitting from the behind the pitcher camera but it's helping me see the pitches better.

My last 2 games I've had my strikeouts down to 5 and 4 each game. Getting my hit totals up to I think around 8 and 10 and walking a few times also. Yet I still cannot for the life of me score runs.

I just played a 10 inning game that after 9 was 0-0.

Hey man,

I've noticed your posts about your struggles with hitting. If your approach is as solid as it sounds, then the hits will come. Personally, I don't think I could ever hit using the camera that you are, but if that's helping you generate some hits, then I'm all for it.

The best thing that I can suggest slider-wise, is to lower Pitch Speed and raise Contact. Lowering Pitch Speed will allow you to see the ball out of the pitcher's hand better, as well as read the break of the pitch. Raising Contact will allow you to put more balls in play, which in theory, should increase your hit totals per game. Also, play SMART situational baseball. Recognize what your job is in every at-bat. Is your job to move the runner over? Get on base? Swing away? Those are the things that I concentrated on in my time in Batting Practice this weekend. You'd be amazed at how many runs you can manufacture just playing small ball.

Hope you stick with it. Let me know if I can help in any way.

[dsmith710]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Hey man,

I've noticed your posts about your struggles with hitting. If your approach is as solid as it sounds, then the hits will come. Personally, I don't think I could ever hit using the camera that you are, but if that's helping you generate some hits, then I'm all for it.

The best thing that I can suggest slider-wise, is to lower Pitch Speed and raise Contact. Lowering Pitch Speed will allow you to see the ball out of the pitcher's hand better, as well as read the break of the pitch. Raising Contact will allow you to put more balls in play, which in theory, should increase your hit totals per game. Also, play SMART situational baseball. Recognize what your job is in every at-bat. Is your job to move the runner over? Get on base? Swing away? Those are the things that I concentrated on in my time in Batting Practice this weekend. You'd be amazed at how many runs you can manufacture just playing small ball.

Hope you stick with it. Let me know if I can help in any way.

I played two games last night switching the camera back to normal, I customized one of the catcher cams to where I felt comfortable. I ended up realizing that if facing certain guys from the pitcher side of things, the angle made me lose the ball in the players jersey until it was right on the plate. Anyways, you said about batting practice, I feel like just constantly playing games is helping me improve. I currently have pitch speed at 5, been tinkering with it for a while. I think that's where I'll stay.

My strikeouts are way down which is big for me. I have been messing with sliders slightly, I feel like moving contact up gets away from what your goal was with these, but if I do move contact up a few notches, should I lower anything to compensate?

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I played two games last night switching the camera back to normal, I customized one of the catcher cams to where I felt comfortable. I ended up realizing that if facing certain guys from the pitcher side of things, the angle made me lose the ball in the players jersey until it was right on the plate. Anyways, you said about batting practice, I feel like just constantly playing games is helping me improve. I currently have pitch speed at 5, been tinkering with it for a while. I think that's where I'll stay.

My strikeouts are way down which is big for me. I have been messing with sliders slightly, I feel like moving contact up gets away from what your goal was with these, but if I do move contact up a few notches, should I lower anything to compensate?

In my opinion, the Contact slider affects your ability to....make contact with the ball; thus, it has a huge affect on your strikeout totals. In going along with that way of thinking, it would make sense that your strikeout totals are down, since you've raised that slider. Now, while Contact does affect your hit totals, Solid Hits is really the slider that affects your overall batting average, as well as hit variety. So, I would say that as long as your getting realistic hit totals, and not seeing anything out of the ordinary (high amounts of extra base hits/home runs), then you should be okay without making any other changes to the sliders. However, if you decide to move the Contact slider passed default, then you really need to pay attention to your offensive stats, because an adjustment to Solid Hits may be needed at that point.

[dsmith710]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

In my opinion, the Contact slider affects your ability to....make contact with the ball; thus, it has a huge affect on your strikeout totals. In going along with that way of thinking, it would make sense that your strikeout totals are down, since you've raised that slider. Now, while Contact does affect your hit totals, Solid Hits is really the slider that affects your overall batting average, as well as hit variety. So, I would say that as long as your getting realistic hit totals, and not seeing anything out of the ordinary (high amounts of extra base hits/home runs), then you should be okay without making any other changes to the sliders. However, if you decide to move the Contact slider passed default, then you really need to pay attention to your offensive stats, because an adjustment to Solid Hits may be needed at that point.

I'll put contact at 5 and see what happens. Do you use power swings at all? I use them on hitters counts like 2-1 3-1 etc and I am pretty sure that's contributing to my struggles. I'd guess 80% of the time I don't make solid contact or just miss entirely getting me into 2 strike situations a lot more.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I'll put contact at 5 and see what happens. Do you use power swings at all? I use them on hitters counts like 2-1 3-1 etc and I am pretty sure that's contributing to my struggles. I'd guess 80% of the time I don't make solid contact or just miss entirely getting me into 2 strike situations a lot more.

I'm not a fan of using Power Swing at all. To me, it's always been a little gimmicky. If I use it, most of the time it's because I'm in a desperate situation, where I really need a home run. That, or I'm apathetic about the game because I already know I've lost. Based on my experience, you very rarely get the result that you're looking for. I've found that I get a realistic amount of extra base hits and home runs using regular swing and contact swing.

On that note, I am a huge fan of using Contact swing. I use that when I get into any 2-strike counts. The goal is to protect the plate in those situations, which is why my strikeout totals are fairly low (most of the time). I also start using Contact swing when I'm in a funk during a game, or when the pitcher has high confidence. When you start getting a few bloopers to drop in, the CPU pitcher's confidence starts coming back to earth, then you can go back to your normal approach.

I'd stay away from using Power Swing as a general rule, but that's my personal preference. As I said, I'm a huge fan of the Normal and Contact Swing options.

[dsmith710]

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I'm not a fan of using Power Swing at all. To me, it's always been a little gimmicky. If I use it, most of the time it's because I'm in a desperate situation, where I really need a home run. That, or I'm apathetic about the game because I already know I've lost. Based on my experience, you very rarely get the result that you're looking for. I've found that I get a realistic amount of extra base hits and home runs using regular swing and contact swing.

On that note, I am a huge fan of using Contact swing. I use that when I get into any 2-strike counts. The goal is to protect the plate in those situations, which is why my strikeout totals are fairly low (most of the time). I also start using Contact swing when I'm in a funk during a game, or when the pitcher has high confidence. When you start getting a few bloopers to drop in, the CPU pitcher's confidence starts coming back to earth, then you can go back to your normal approach.

I'd stay away from using Power Swing as a general rule, but that's my personal preference. As I said, I'm a huge fan of the Normal and Contact Swing options.

I also use Contact swing for every 2 strike situation. I never thought about using it when you just need to get a hit to get out if a funk or to get to the pitcher. That's brilliant.

I get greedy and want that power swing but I'll start laying off because it's so difficult to be consistent with it.

[dsmith710]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

OK itbeme, got a chance to get a game in. I actually kept the sliders as you have them posted, so I had contact at 3.

Reds @ Phillies (me)
I lost 3-1. Hits 9-7 them. Which is great. But feels like both teams need something more.

Used Jerome Williams
7 IP 5 H 0 R 2 BB 7 K
Pretty solid if you ask me, but 3 of the 5 hits he gave up 2 were infield singles to Hamilton and 1 was a broken bat infield bloop.

I struck out 7 times, 2 were to Chapman in the 9th, I can deal with that, also Ryan Howard struck out 3 times (not sure we can count those against me haha)

Overall each team had 1 double, no HR. So 8 of their 9 hits were singles. And 6 of my 7. I only walked once, which is also my patience issue. Seems like I need more pop in the bats of both teams or something to get the guys moving. A lot of my outs were shots right at guys. I'm afraid to raise solid hits because I do get a lot of deep fly balls, I don't want it to result in a HR derby.

[dubplate]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Has anyone used these with quick counts and, if so, what tweaks have you made, if any?

[The Kid 24]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I just lost on a suicide squeeze in the Bottom of the 10th... And I'm not pissed what so ever.

*** **** I love this game!!

ATL(me) 4 8 0
ARZ 5 12 0

SPs
Wood - 5.2IP 4H 2R 2BB 6K 45% First Pitch Strike 59% Strike Overall
Bradley - 6IP 4H 3R 3BB 4K 58% First Pitch Strike 58% Strike Overall

Team Pitching
ATL - 156 Pitches, 99 Strikes, 57 Balls, 56& First Pitch Strike, 63% Strike Overall
ARZ - 131 Pitches, 80 Strikes, 51 Balls, 55% First Pitch Strike, 61% Strike Overall

BBs
ATL - 3
ARZ - 3

Ks
ATL - 8
ARZ - 5

XBHs
ATL
HR - Pierzynski
8/35 = .228 AVG

ARZ
2B - Peralta, Goldschmidt
HR - Trumbo
12/34 = .352 AVG

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I just lost on a suicide squeeze in the Bottom of the 10th... And I'm not pissed what so ever.

*** **** I love this game!!

ATL(me) 4 8 0
ARZ 5 12 0

SPs
Wood - 5.2IP 4H 2R 2BB 6K 45% First Pitch Strike 59% Strike Overall
Bradley - 6IP 4H 3R 3BB 4K 58% First Pitch Strike 58% Strike Overall

Team Pitching
ATL - 156 Pitches, 99 Strikes, 57 Balls, 56& First Pitch Strike, 63% Strike Overall
ARZ - 131 Pitches, 80 Strikes, 51 Balls, 55% First Pitch Strike, 61% Strike Overall

BBs
ATL - 3
ARZ - 3

Ks
ATL - 8
ARZ - 5

XBHs
ATL
HR - Pierzynski
8/35 = .228 AVG

ARZ
2B - Peralta, Goldschmidt
HR - Trumbo
12/34 = .352 AVG

Dude,

Absolutely loving those stats. And to lose on a squeeze play in extra innings?!?!? Those are the games where even though you lose, it's still a blast.