Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike %

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Sorry forgot to include that... I'm using "Test" set.

I'm gonna move Human Control & Consistency up one click to 2 for now... I don't remember if I mentioned in this thread or another, but using Williard's Revision roster and the test sliders with those at 1... I was really stuggling to command pitches with Harvey... Had 3 BBs in the 1st.

Ahhhh...that makes sense then. I think moving Human Control/Consistency up to 2 would be a good start to rectify your issues.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Dynamic Difficulty Testing Phase:

Sliders:
Human Control: 5
Human Consistency: 5

CPU Control: 3
CPU Consistency: 3
CPU Strike Frequency: 2

Game #1

LAD: 4 11 2
SFO: 1 3 1

Win: Z. Greinke - 7 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 97 Pitches, 71 Strikes, 26 Balls, 73% Overall Strikes, 73% First Pitch Strikes
Loss: T. Hudson - 6 IP, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, 90 Pitches, 56 Strikes, 34 Balls, 62% Overall Strikes, 54% First Pitch Strikes
Save: K. Jansen

Team Pitching:

LAD: 126 Pitches, 91 Strikes, 35 Balls, 72% Overall Strikes, 71% First Pitch Strikes
SFO: 134 Pitches, 89 Strikes, 45 Balls, 66% Overall Strikes, 62% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

LAD:8
SFO:7

Team Walks:

LAD: 3
SFO: 2

Team Errors:

LAD: J. Rollins (Throwing), C. Heisey (Fielding)
SFO: M. Duffy (Fielding)

Baserunning:

LAD:
SB: J. Pederson
CS: J. Rollins, H. Kendrick

Team Hitting:

LAD:
2B: Y. Grandal
3B: Y. Grandal
11 Hits/35 At-Bats = .314 BA

SFO:
2B: B. Belt
3 Hits/31 At-Bats = .097 BA

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Dynamic Difficulty Test

Game #2

LAD: 2 6 0
PIT: 1 9 0
Final: 11

Win: C. Hatcher
Loss: R. Scahill
Save: K. Jansen

Starting Pitching:

M. Bolsinger: 7 IP, 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 78 Pitches, 52 Strikes, 26 Balls, 67% Overall Strikes, 46% First Pitch Strikes

A. Burnett: 6 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 6 K, 105 Pitches, 64 Strikes, 41 Balls, 61% Overall Strikes, 45% First Pitch Strikes

Team Pitching:

LAD: 127 Pitches, 89 Strikes, 38 Balls, 70% Overall Strikes, 55% First Pitch Strikes

PIT: 176 Pitches, 114 Strikes, 62 Balls, 65% Overall Strikes, 51% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

LAD: 12
PIT: 8

Team Walks:

LAD: 2
PIT: 0

Baserunning:

LAD:
CS: H. Kendrick

PIT:
SB: S. Marte
CS: A. McCutchen

Team Hitting:

LAD:
HR: J. Rollins, J. Pederson
6 Hits/37 At-Bats = .162 BA

PIT:
2B: S. Marte
9 Hits/40 At-Bats = .225 BA

[Loc1225]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

So what's the thoughts so far?

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

So what's the thoughts so far?

Very preliminary thoughts thus far....

I like the results that I'm getting with the updated CPU pitcher settings. Pitchers don't seem to be all over the place like they were before, and their confidence doesn't take a huge dip every time they give up a hit. More testing to come. This has also had a positive affect on my offensive output as well, which is what I was hoping for. I like scoring runs just as much as the next guy, but I want to make sure that it's at a realistic clip as well.

As far as User Pitching goes, I don't foresee any changes at this time. Even though I've had back to back games where I've only given up 1 run, that was after 3-4 games of giving up 5+ runs, and two of those games were with Kershaw and Greinke pitching. One thing I will continue to monitor are strike percentages, as they've been a little high for my liking, but I will need a few more games to figure if any adjustments will be needed.

Offensively, the sliders are performing well at default, and I don't see a reason to change anything as of now.

I've raised Steal Frequency up by one click to 7, and lowered Steal Success down to 5. I'm trying to see a little bit more action on the base-paths. I remember playing the Reds a few games ago, and Billy Hamilton didn't attempt a stolen base in the entire series. That was kind of annoying. The balance there is not having guys attempt steals that normally wouldn't (i.e. an AJ Ellis, or Mark Trumbo, etc.). So far, I haven't seen that.

More test games to come tonight.

[The Kid 24]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Damn I love these sliders and Willard's revision rosters!

Game 2 of Mets franchise... I was too tired to jot down the box score... Sorry man.

Some of the details I remember...I pounded the Nationals 10-0... Mets with 17 hits... Nationals with 8... Mets with 2 HRs and 5 2Bs... Nationals with 2 2Bs.

deGrom was flithy... 6IP 4H 1BB 11K!

Really, really loving the game now.

[Loc1225]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

You guy's like these better than the non dd set?

[The Kid 24]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

You guy's like these better than the non dd set?

I haven't tried DD yet... Loving the "test" set with a few changes of my own.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I won't say that I like the DD set "better" per se. I was very happy with the results of the test set when I released them. But being that there was so much lag time in between Willard's roster being released, I decided to give DD a try, and I've been EXTREMELY happy with the games that I've been getting. I don't think people understand the true effect of having that little "+" added to your difficulty level does.....for me, it was a game changer. That's why the majority of my efforts now will be making adjustments to my DD set, rather than the test set. The test set is pretty solid as it is, and I don't think that there will be many adjustments that need to be made....maybe just a click here and there.

Dynamic Difficulty Test

Game #3

LAD: 0 6 1
PIT: 4 7 0

Win: J. Locke - 9 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, 119 Pitches, 83 Strikes, 36 Balls, 70% Overall Strikes, 71% First Pitch Strikes
Loss: C. Frias - 6 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 90 Pitches, 62 Strikes, 28 Balls, 69% Overall Strikes, 58% First Pitch Strikes

Team Pitching:

LAD: 119 Pitches, 84 Strikes, 35 Balls, 71% Overall Strikes, 64% First Pitch Strikes
PIT: 119 Pitches, 83 Strikes, 36 Balls, 70% Overall Strikes, 71% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

LAD: 7
PIT: 5

Team Walks:

LAD: 2
PIT: 1

Team Errors:

LAD: J. Rollins (Throwing)


Team Hitting:

LAD:
2B: A. Guerrero
6 Hits/32 At-Bats = .188 BA

PIT:
2B: P. Alvarez
3B: G. Polanco
HR: A. McCutchen, J. Kang
7 Hits/31 At-Bats = .226 BA

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Dynamic Difficulty Test

Game #4

LAD: 5 13 0
PIT: 6 10 0

Win: C. Morton - 6 IP, 9 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 98 Pitches, 68 Strikes, 30 Balls, 70% Overall Strikes, 67% First Pitch Strikes
Loss: B. Anderson - 5 IP, 10 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 67 Pitches, 51 Strikes, 16 Balls, 76% Overall Strikes, 69% First Pitch Strikes
Save: M. Melancon

Team Pitching:

LAD: 100 Pitches, 75 Strikes, 25 Balls, 75% Overall Strikes, 66% First Pitch Strikes
PIT: 146 Pitches, 100 Strikes, 46 Balls, 70% Overall Strikes, 68% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

LAD: 8
PIT: 4

Team Walks:

LAD: 1
PIT: 0

Team Baserunning:

PIT:
S. Marte (SB)

Team Hitting:

LAD:
2B: A. Ethier, Y. Grandal, A. Guerrero, J. Turner
HR: J. Pederson (2)
13 Hits/39 At-Bats = .333 BA

PIT:
2B: J. Harrison, J. Kang
3B: A. McCutchen, S. Marte
10 Hits/33 At-Bats = .303 BA

[Bunselpower32]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I know it's been asked, but is there any way you could post these new ones to the vault if you haven't already?

[Powerplay17]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I for one, am loving the original set with a few minor tweaks of my own. I jumped out of the gate in spring training with my Rays (season mode) with 8 wins in 10 games only to see my offense vanish along with my pitching as I attempt to find a way out of a 4 game losing streak.

Continue to hit the ball hard but seemingly everything either dies at the track or is hit right at somebody. Thing is, I love it as just when I thought DD might be the way to go these sliders prove their worth.

Loving the original set!

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I know it's been asked, but is there any way you could post these new ones to the vault if you haven't already?

Which set are you referring to? The only "new" set that I have is the Dynamic Difficulty set. The "original" and "test" sets were finalized quite some time ago. I don't have a problem putting any of them in the vault, just let me know which one you are referring to.

I for one, am loving the original set with a few minor tweaks of my own. I jumped out of the gate in spring training with my Rays (season mode) with 8 wins in 10 games only to see my offense vanish along with my pitching as I attempt to find a way out of a 4 game losing streak.

Continue to hit the ball hard but seemingly everything either dies at the track or is hit right at somebody. Thing is, I love it as just when I thought DD might be the way to go these sliders prove their worth.




Loving the original set!

Glad you're enjoying them! But again, which set are YOU referring to??? LOL. I guess that's the problem with having multiple sets in one thread. Regardless, I'm glad that you're having fun with them.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Just some further observations after four DD test games.

1. At this point, I feel like User strike percentages are on the high side. It's not a matter of being able to pinpoint my spots. Quite frankly, I think the "challenge factor" with User Control/Consistency at 5 is actually quite good. The problem that I'm having is the fact that any pitches that miss their intended location, end up being very hittable pitches. Simply put, pitches miss INSIDE the strike zone instead of OUTSIDE the strike zone, which leads to a higher strike percentage (obviously), and a lower strikeout rate for the CPU (to a lesser degree), because of their ability to make consistent contact. The Consistency slider is the slider that has an affect on "passed balls, and pitches that miss far from their intended target" (I'm paraphrasing), so my first inclination would be to lower that slider to 4. However, I'm not a big fan of having the Control/Consistency sliders set at different values. It causes too many slider combinations, which would take forever to test. So, I will more than likely move User Control/Consistency to 4/4 to see how that plays out. My goal with that is more realistic strike percentages, but I have concerns that this will provide a boost to the CPU offense, which right now, is damn near perfect at default.

2. Right now, I'm okay with the CPU Sliders at 3,3,2. However, the last couple games, the CPU has absolutely POUNDED the zone, which is a concern. The strike percentages have been on the high side for the past couple of games, but I have also swung and missed quite a bit in those games. I plan on leaving those sliders as-is for now, at least through my next test series, then I will make adjustments if necessary.

[Powerplay17]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Page 1 set. Been using it since the first post and adjusted as you did. I pushed Human pitching consistency up a notch as I found my starters laboring too much and not throwing enough strikes resulting in too high of pitch counts in the early innings. Pushed contact up to account for sometimes infrequent opportunities to play.

Overall though, super realistic. Tried DD but didn't like the consistency of set levels.