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  • Armor and Sword
    The Lama
    • Sep 2010
    • 21790

    #2236
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

    Something I am noticing and loving post patch 1.09

    Humanity AI is even better and more ratings based.

    Seeing more errors with lower rated guys, more bad angles and jumps in the OF, more throwing errors in the infield etc.

    The game is simply playing incredible offline. Wish I could say the same for online....to me it is just a night and day experience. I can’t stomach online play at all.

    Diamond Dynasty is strictly offline for me this season.
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    • Burgess
      MVP
      • Oct 2015
      • 1015

      #2237
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
      Something I am noticing and loving post patch 1.09

      Humanity AI is even better and more ratings based.

      Seeing more errors with lower rated guys, more bad angles and jumps in the OF, more throwing errors in the infield etc.

      The game is simply playing incredible offline. Wish I could say the same for online....to me it is just a night and day experience. I can’t stomach online play at all.



      Diamond Dynasty is strictly offline for me this season.
      Armour, did the patch correct the CPU bullpen issue, where you have to switch teams and set their pitcher to "ready and waiting"? Getting used to doing it now but it is still a little annoying
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      • Burgess
        MVP
        • Oct 2015
        • 1015

        #2238
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

        How do I find out if patch 1.09 has been downloaded? I want to make sure it is but don't know for sure. Thanks
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        • Chunky_Cracker
          Rookie
          • Oct 2016
          • 223

          #2239
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

          Originally posted by Burgess
          How do I find out if patch 1.09 has been downloaded? I want to make sure it is but don't know for sure. Thanks
          One way is while you are at the PS4 Dashboard highlight the MLB the Show 17 cover art as if you're going to click to load the game but don't load it.

          While it's highlighted click the Options button on your controller and go down to Update History. It should show you the latest patch that has been installed.

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          • Burgess
            MVP
            • Oct 2015
            • 1015

            #2240
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

            Originally posted by Chunky_Cracker
            One way is while you are at the PS4 Dashboard highlight the MLB the Show 17 cover art as if you're going to click to load the game but don't load it.

            While it's highlighted click the Options button on your controller and go down to Update History. It should show you the latest patch that has been installed.
            Thanks very much
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            • Chunky_Cracker
              Rookie
              • Oct 2016
              • 223

              #2241
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

              Originally posted by Burgess
              Thanks very much
              No problem.

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              • The Chef
                Moderator
                • Sep 2003
                • 13684

                #2242
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                Holy hell there are some teams that just get hot and hit everything, so glad my series with Houston is over and I won't have to play that team for the remainder of the season. Without Carlos Correa even they were near impossible to stop, just murdering me and didn't help that my team suddenly forgot how to field and none of my pitchers had control of anything the entire series. That was one of the most trying series I've ever played lol. With 12 games left though I've got a 4.5 game lead in the division, might be able to pull this off and get Seattle back to the playoffs for the first time in forever. Having said that my pitching won't get me far so I have no illusions of winning it all but I'm amazed seeing as wasn't that long ago this team was playing like complete trash.
                Last edited by The Chef; 07-05-2017, 09:51 PM.
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                • The Chef
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 13684

                  #2243
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                  Gonna stream a game for the hell of it. (82-67) Texas at (87-63) Seattle.
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                  • The Chef
                    Moderator
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 13684

                    #2244
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                    This game is just too streaky for my tastes anymore. It's either shut the CPU down or watch as mysteriously your entire rotation forgets how to throw strikes. I don't know how people aren't seeing this, this years game is the sloppiest thrown together version they've probably ever put out imo. My most recent game I threw 6 wild pitches, had a passed ball when Carlos Ruiz, somehow, couldn't catch a fastball and watched as it bounced all the way to the backstop. I've seen Carlos Ruiz whiff on a popup, I've had a swinging 3rd strike that somehow Ruiz botched and then he didn't even attempt to throw the runner out. I watched a single turn into 2 straight wild pitches putting the runner on third then a sac fly bring him home. It's just never ending, it all feels incredibly scripted to the point I can almost guarantee what the outcome will be by the 4th inning of every single game. There will be deviations from that on occasion but when my SP suddenly loses all control come the 4th inning to the point that I can aim dead center on a fastball and he will miss the entire plate by at least a foot it's pretty obvious which way the game is headed.

                    On that note I'll be simulating the rest of the season and whatever happens happens, far better then watching the extremely poorly implemented dice roll that this game uses.
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                    • BleacherCreature
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 3160

                      #2245
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                      Originally posted by The Chef
                      This game is just too streaky for my tastes anymore. It's either shut the CPU down or watch as mysteriously your entire rotation forgets how to throw strikes. I don't know how people aren't seeing this, this years game is the sloppiest thrown together version they've probably ever put out imo. My most recent game I threw 6 wild pitches, had a passed ball when Carlos Ruiz, somehow, couldn't catch a fastball and watched as it bounced all the way to the backstop. I've seen Carlos Ruiz whiff on a popup, I've had a swinging 3rd strike that somehow Ruiz botched and then he didn't even attempt to throw the runner out. I watched a single turn into 2 straight wild pitches putting the runner on third then a sac fly bring him home. It's just never ending, it all feels incredibly scripted to the point I can almost guarantee what the outcome will be by the 4th inning of every single game. There will be deviations from that on occasion but when my SP suddenly loses all control come the 4th inning to the point that I can aim dead center on a fastball and he will miss the entire plate by at least a foot it's pretty obvious which way the game is headed.

                      On that note I'll be simulating the rest of the season and whatever happens happens, far better then watching the extremely poorly implemented dice roll that this game uses.


                      Sounds like it's a Carlos Ruiz problem, not the game.


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                      • The Chef
                        Moderator
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 13684

                        #2246
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                        Originally posted by BleacherCreature
                        Sounds like it's a Carlos Ruiz problem, not the game.


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                        Carlos Ruiz has nothing to do with extremely poor pitch control striking all my pitchers at the same time and only starting in the 4th inning. He has nothing to do with CPU batters suddenly going beast mode and hitting countless pitches that aren't even in the zone for base hits over and over again. I can blame Ruiz for some of it obviously but unless there is some sort of under the hood ratings adjustment when Ruiz is behind the plate then I don't see how trying to literally groove a fastball with a top of the line starter should result in a ball that bounces to home instead, I mean that's Rick Ankiel level wild. I was enjoying pitching as the system made sense, hold to vibration and he's off with a certain pitch, scale it back until you find out where his release point is with that specific pitch on that specific day, made a lot of sense and provided a different challenge when pitching. Having said that, suddenly that doesn't work anymore as there is no scaling back as the pitches are all over the map no matter control ratings, button press length or aim itself. That's when the game starts feeling a little scripted, as if the game has decided my pitching will be terrible for this stretch of games and it's gonna play out that way one way or another.

                        I think the game is in my archives before I pulled the plug on it and quit out and started just simulating the remainder of the season if you wanna check it out. I'm just gonna bow out of this thread, I've made major strides with the pitching and it has been working pretty well. I don't care about losing, what I do care about is how the game gets there and when this game gets ugly it gets real ugly.
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                        • KayOtic723
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 794

                          #2247
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                          Originally posted by The Chef
                          This game is just too streaky for my tastes anymore. It's either shut the CPU down or watch as mysteriously your entire rotation forgets how to throw strikes. I don't know how people aren't seeing this, this years game is the sloppiest thrown together version they've probably ever put out imo. My most recent game I threw 6 wild pitches, had a passed ball when Carlos Ruiz, somehow, couldn't catch a fastball and watched as it bounced all the way to the backstop. I've seen Carlos Ruiz whiff on a popup, I've had a swinging 3rd strike that somehow Ruiz botched and then he didn't even attempt to throw the runner out. I watched a single turn into 2 straight wild pitches putting the runner on third then a sac fly bring him home. It's just never ending, it all feels incredibly scripted to the point I can almost guarantee what the outcome will be by the 4th inning of every single game. There will be deviations from that on occasion but when my SP suddenly loses all control come the 4th inning to the point that I can aim dead center on a fastball and he will miss the entire plate by at least a foot it's pretty obvious which way the game is headed.

                          On that note I'll be simulating the rest of the season and whatever happens happens, far better then watching the extremely poorly implemented dice roll that this game uses.


                          You are 82-67 with the M's what more do you want? You might want to use a different slider set that you have more control over what happens like meter pitching and zone hitting


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                          • The Chef
                            Moderator
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 13684

                            #2248
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                            Originally posted by KayOtic723
                            You are 82-67 with the M's what more do you want? You might want to use a different slider set that you have more control over what happens like meter pitching and zone hitting


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                            Well never said a word about my own hitting so timing/directional hitting isn't an issue. As for pitching, classic isn't an issue a majority of the time, it's when those built in streaks come out of the blue that don't just effect a pitcher here and there and instead effect 90% of my rotation/pen is when the issues come up. As for my record, Seattle is ranked 3rd best according to the standings screen so it's not as if I took Tampa Bay and went 90-55 and am complaining here, I'm winning with a team that is rated high.

                            Again, it's the streaks that come up out of the blue and effect more then just a couple pitchers. It's one thing if a couple guys are slumping then I can take that into account and pitch accordingly but when my entire rotation can't locate anything, then I bring relievers in and they can't groove one even when I want too you can't tell me that isn't built into the game to provide some sort of "adversity" or "variety". It is what it is, like I said I'll stick with the sliders and finish out my season then decide if I want to continue or not. I do wish classic pitching was a bit more consistent when it comes to location and it corresponding to length of time holding the button down as most times it is pretty consistent but those games, as mentioned prior, it's so wildly inconsistent that it's maddening.
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                            • bradypunch
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2016
                              • 68

                              #2249
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                              Just had something like a 14 game winning streak end with the tribe and I'm 23 and 6. Anyways I just wanted to clarify classic pitching how it works.

                              You just tap it once very fast when u want max accuracy? Thrn if u want medium accuracy and velocity to make say a changeup go right where u aimed it but dropping out at the end to fool the batterr u hold it maybe halfway? And if u want a slider to break way outside u hold the button until u feel it vibrate? I know that when u hold it if u don't have a lot of confidence the pitch like a slider will hang. I tend to just tap it quickly once as I rather have location then wildness but sometimes I'll hold it long for a 97mph 4 steamer or a curveball that I don't want in the dirt. Am I doing it right?

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                              • The Chef
                                Moderator
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 13684

                                #2250
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                                Originally posted by bradypunch
                                Just had something like a 14 game winning streak end with the tribe and I'm 23 and 6. Anyways I just wanted to clarify classic pitching how it works.

                                You just tap it once very fast when u want max accuracy? Thrn if u want medium accuracy and velocity to make say a changeup go right where u aimed it but dropping out at the end to fool the batterr u hold it maybe halfway? And if u want a slider to break way outside u hold the button until u feel it vibrate? I know that when u hold it if u don't have a lot of confidence the pitch like a slider will hang. I tend to just tap it quickly once as I rather have location then wildness but sometimes I'll hold it long for a 97mph 4 steamer or a curveball that I don't want in the dirt. Am I doing it right?
                                That's how I've always thought it worked. This year seems different though, more like you have to find the correct release point (length of button press) for each pitch for accuracy and tapping the button doesn't seem to lead to more accuracy. For instance with Felix a couple games ago he was terrible at locating his sinker when I was tapping it, was a little better when holding about halfway and seemed to hit his spot more when holding to the vibration. The thing is, it seems like the release point changes numerous times throughout the game for some of my pitchers, one inning it might be to vibration and next inning it might be just tapping it to get good accuracy. In other words I've been confused off and on for months with classic pitching lol but that's how I interpret it this year.
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