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  • JG1986
    Pro
    • Mar 2012
    • 513

    #2401
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

    Been following along but haven't posted in a while. I think this will be the first year I complete an entire franchise in the Show playing every pitch. Sitting at 32-21 with the Mets, 3 games behind the Nats and in a 1st place tie for the wild card with the Dodgers/Giants who are both 33 and 22 I believe. Pretty cool stuff. Long way to go, I know. Anyway I'm shocked at the increase in both power and solid hits, especially for humans. I believe I have hit 105 homers as a team through 53 games and the next best team has hit maybe 70? I'm sitting 14th in team ERA so I'll definitely leave the CPU hitting alone, but I do have control/consistency at 2 on HOF. I guess this just a testament to how well the game is playing right now. I haven't made a slider change in what seems like forever. I think the amount of HR's being hit is just something I will have to deal with this year.

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    • Burgess
      MVP
      • Oct 2015
      • 1015

      #2402
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
      The OP is now updated with the most up to date sliders I am using. Post patch 1.11


      The changes are to HUM/CPU power and solid hits now at 6 for both.

      Also on quick manage set they have been updated and injuries on quick manage (and also straight sim) are now at 5 (down from 6).
      Hi Armour. I'm curious as to why the increase to 6 for these sliders so late in to your season. Were you not seeing enough homers and extra base hits for both the CPU and human? I havent played nearly as many games as you but thought things seemed fairly realistic so far at 5. As always, I trust your slider recommendations so just curious as to what the reason is for the change.

      Thanks
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      • Armor and Sword
        The Lama
        • Sep 2010
        • 21790

        #2403
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

        Originally posted by Burgess
        Hi Armour. I'm curious as to why the increase to 6 for these sliders so late in to your season. Were you not seeing enough homers and extra base hits for both the CPU and human? I havent played nearly as many games as you but thought things seemed fairly realistic so far at 5. As always, I trust your slider recommendations so just curious as to what the reason is for the change.

        Thanks
        I was seeing enough HR's but contact got a little weaker after I had a huge sample to see. And i want the CPU to be more dangerous.

        It is a slight but highly effective tweak. And the game today is full of offense (Real life MLB) and the over reaction here to the game out of the box was IMO ridiculous.

        Just watch the MLB every night. Bombs all over the park every night.

        This tweak get's the game back to out of the box for me.....and I loved hitting out of the box.
        Last edited by Armor and Sword; 08-02-2017, 02:59 PM.
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        • No.27
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          • Dec 2015
          • 543

          #2404
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
          I was seeing enough HR's but contact got a little weaker after I had a huge sample to see. And i want the CPU to be more dangerous.

          It is a slight but highly effective tweak. And the game today is full of offense (Real life MLB) and the over reaction here to the game out of the box was IMO ridiculous.

          Just watch the MLB every night. Bombs all over the park every night.

          This tweak get's the game back to out of the box for me.....and I loved hitting out of the box.
          Great changes! I've been playing with these raised (WW's/rjacksons ideas) for a while and the most pleasing thing for me is the game now actually "looks" like it did out of the box. Hits swerve and curl over the infield and into the outfield. I'm seeing fielders really having to move to get under the ball. Home run distances are perfect. Have fun with those Yankees!
          Last edited by No.27; 08-02-2017, 05:56 PM.

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          • COMMISSIONERHBK9
            MVP
            • Dec 2003
            • 4564

            #2405
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

            do u guys use the directional or you just swing without directions?
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            • JoshC1977
              All Star
              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #2406
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              For both CPU and Human.



              The OP is being updated.


              Really? I had no idea you switched...lol.


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              • The Chef
                Moderator
                • Sep 2003
                • 13684

                #2407
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                I was seeing enough HR's but contact got a little weaker after I had a huge sample to see. And i want the CPU to be more dangerous.

                It is a slight but highly effective tweak. And the game today is full of offense (Real life MLB) and the over reaction here to the game out of the box was IMO ridiculous.

                Just watch the MLB every night. Bombs all over the park every night.

                This tweak get's the game back to out of the box for me.....and I loved hitting out of the box.
                I'm seriously considering following this as well. I'm 33 games into season 2 with Seattle and I'm only giving up 3.39 runs per game, CPU is only hitting .245 off me and as far as doubles (1.27 per) and HR's (0.76 per) go they are really down. My doubles (2.00) and HR's (1.27) are pretty solid considering I don't have Cano and Nelson Cruz is injured but I already had solid hits at 6 for myself so it would only be an increase in power. I should probably mention that I'm hitting on HOF and have the entire season so take that into consideration as well.

                Having said all that, I'm slightly torn. I know it's been explained in and out of the game that power will increase HR's, my question is, will solid hits also increase HR's? My HR's increased when I raised solid hits only and didn't touch power so makes me curious if I did the same thing if the CPU offense would remain largely the same but with a few more extra base hits which would result in a little more offense and a more enjoyable game without it swinging the game drastically the other direction.
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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21790

                  #2408
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                  Originally posted by JoshC1977
                  Really? I had no idea you switched...lol.


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                  It was a very recent change. One I was testing incognito.....lol.
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                  • TheWarmWind
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 2620

                    #2409
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                    Dang Armor, you've got me thinking about changing my sliders, and I was locked in. LOCKED IN! I don't think you realize how big of a deal that is for me.

                    I'm really curious to see how things play out for you. I'm obviously going for a different style of gameplay than you (as you can tell from my sliders thread) but your input and info is, as always, appreciated.

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                    • StormsWarning
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2192

                      #2410
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                      It was a very recent change. One I was testing incognito.....lol.
                      Also something he doe's often, that's how your slider's have gotten to be as good as they are, also why i never question a change, a person that has played literally over 100+ games, i'd say knows what this game is doing in & out. some of the things i have read in this section is seriously head scratching to me sometimes. ty for the outstanding work you have done with this set.
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                      • Armor and Sword
                        The Lama
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21790

                        #2411
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                        Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                        Dang Armor, you've got me thinking about changing my sliders, and I was locked in. LOCKED IN! I don't think you realize how big of a deal that is for me.

                        I'm really curious to see how things play out for you. I'm obviously going for a different style of gameplay than you (as you can tell from my sliders thread) but your input and info is, as always, appreciated.

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                        If you are locked in....and having a blast stay locked in. I just felt after patch 1.10 and playing 3 dozen games they nerfed solid hits and power ever so slightly. Not nearly as dramatic as the general forums would lead you to believe. No not that crazy. But ever so slightly and I was one who absolutely loved this game out of the box hitting wise. Yes the HR distances at times were over the top.....but the bat’s were alive.

                        This ever so slight tweak not only get’s hitting back to where I felt it was out of the box, but it also makes the CPU far more dangerous on HOF pitching (and I am sure as well on all-star pitching for those still using that level).
                        Last edited by Armor and Sword; 08-03-2017, 11:37 AM.
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                        • jersam515
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                          • Jan 2012
                          • 72

                          #2412
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                          What kind of league ERAs are people getting from simming? I see an average ERA of 3.8 vs the real life average of 4.3 or so. Is there a way to make the sim stats more accurate?

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                          • MDgolf
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 1421

                            #2413
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                            Anyone notice the crazy speed the ball comes off the bat for bunts? Just noticed it more in the last month or so...


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                            • Armor and Sword
                              The Lama
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21790

                              #2414
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                              Originally posted by MDgolf
                              Anyone notice the crazy speed the ball comes off the bat for bunts? Just noticed it more in the last month or so...


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                              IF you have a guy that has a low bunt rating it will happen often. If you have a highly rated bunter and you angle down the 3rd base or 1st base line, get the right pitch, it can be a decent chance of a successful bunt.

                              Everything depends on bunt rating, bunt quirk, pitch you make contact on for the bunt....lot’s of variables.

                              I swear....in reading the general forum I am convinced people who complain loudly:

                              1. never played baseball

                              2. want an arcade baseball game

                              3. base observations on 20 games or less played and don’t even sniff playing over 100 games a season on The Show.
                              Last edited by Armor and Sword; 08-04-2017, 01:23 PM.
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                              • KayOtic723
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                                • Sep 2011
                                • 794

                                #2415
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Slider

                                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                                IF you have a guy that has a low bunt rating it will happen often. If you have a highly rated bunter and you angle down the 3rd base or 1st base line, get the right pitch, it can be a decent chance of a successful bunt.

                                Everything depends on bunt rating, bunt quirk, pitch you make contact on for the bunt....lot’s of variables.

                                I swear....in reading the general forum I am convinced people who complain loudly:

                                1. never played baseball

                                2. want an arcade baseball game

                                3. base observations on 20 games or less played and don’t even sniff playing over 100 games a season on The Show.


                                It's funny to hear about how "hitting" changes every patch the same day the patch comes out...without hitting being mentioned in patch notes


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