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  • Gagnon39
    Windy City Sports Fan
    • Mar 2003
    • 8544

    #2011
    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

    Originally posted by BleacherCreature
    Yes I’m on Hall of Fame. My highest average on the team is Judge who’s around .275, and Sanchez and Stanton hitting around .260. Everyone else is similar to yours, all under .250


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    Yeah, that’s not far off from me then. I have thought about moving back to All-Star hitting but I just love the way the CPU throws on Hall of Fame. I draw more walk on Hall of Fame than I do on All-Star. Maybe it’s coincidence, but I’ve just noticed that the CPU really does throw more balls on Hall of Fame. Especially in certain situations. Again, maybe coincidence, but I’ve had many instances with an open base and a slugger up, the CPU has issued an unintentional, intentional walk. Four straight, out of the zone.


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    • Gagnon39
      Windy City Sports Fan
      • Mar 2003
      • 8544

      #2012
      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

      Also, one more question about directional hitting...

      If I’m looking to pull the ball with a power hitter (pressing in on the analog stick) but notice once the pitch is released that the location will be low and away, should so not try to adjust my directional position while the ball is on the way to the plate? It seems like if I kept the pull direction on a ball low and away that would induce terrible contact. Maybe I’m thinking about it wrong. I was an MVP Baseball fanatic before The Show and I still, at times, try to hit with that mechanic in mind. When I first heard about directional hitting I had thought it was basically the same as MVP, which would be the best of both worlds to me.


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      • BleacherCreature
        MVP
        • Apr 2007
        • 3160

        #2013
        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

        Hmm, not sure about that one. Me personally, I don’t move the stick once I commit to a certain type of swing. But I have also hit pitches to the opposite field while trying to pull, I can only assume based on timing of my swing.


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        • Gagnon39
          Windy City Sports Fan
          • Mar 2003
          • 8544

          #2014
          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

          Originally posted by BleacherCreature
          Hmm, not sure about that one. Me personally, I don’t move the stick once I commit to a certain type of swing. But I have also hit pitches to the opposite field while trying to pull, I can only assume based on timing of my swing.


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          Right, I would expect that to happen on occasion. However, the, “sitting on one swing,” mentality has never really set well with me. I believe that, in general, players may be looking to pull or go the other way in certain situations, but I think most Major League (and all good hitters on any level), recognize pitches and go with balls thrown away, for example. That’s why I’ve always loved the MVP model. Swing where it’s pitched. It would seem like doing that with directional would also be the best thing to do, especially considering the fact that (unless I’ve missed something) there’s no benefit to the actual duration of holding a particular direction. Meaning simply that if you and I have the same batter and pitcher matchup, the same ball is thrown in the same location (say inside), and you hold in on the analog prior to the pitcher delivering the pitch and until the bat makes contact, and I, on the other hand, wait until I see the ball coming inside and move the analog stick in a split second before swinging, we should have the same result. Given, there’s never going to be the exact same result, I get that, but I hope you understand what I mean. Just that it makes no difference if you hold the direction longer, as long as the direction is held once the swing is made.

          So with that in mind, why would one ever just sit on one location?


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          • BleacherCreature
            MVP
            • Apr 2007
            • 3160

            #2015
            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

            Originally posted by Gagnon39
            Right, I would expect that to happen on occasion. However, the, “sitting on one swing,” mentality has never really set well with me. I believe that, in general, players may be looking to pull or go the other way in certain situations, but I think most Major League (and all good hitters on any level), recognize pitches and go with balls thrown away, for example. That’s why I’ve always loved the MVP model. Swing where it’s pitched. It would seem like doing that with directional would also be the best thing to do, especially considering the fact that (unless I’ve missed something) there’s no benefit to the actual duration of holding a particular direction. Meaning simply that if you and I have the same batter and pitcher matchup, the same ball is thrown in the same location (say inside), and you hold in on the analog prior to the pitcher delivering the pitch and until the bat makes contact, and I, on the other hand, wait until I see the ball coming inside and move the analog stick in a split second before swinging, we should have the same result. Given, there’s never going to be the exact same result, I get that, but I hope you understand what I mean. Just that it makes no difference if you hold the direction longer, as long as the direction is held once the swing is made.

            So with that in mind, why would one ever just sit on one location?


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            I feel like what you describe in your method is more in line with zone hitting. I haven’t had much success moving the right stick around in the zone.


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            • Gagnon39
              Windy City Sports Fan
              • Mar 2003
              • 8544

              #2016
              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

              Originally posted by BleacherCreature
              I feel like what you describe in your method is more in line with zone hitting. I haven’t had much success moving the right stick around in the zone.


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              It would be similar to zone. But there's no reason it can't be done with directional as well. It's relatively easy to pick up on where the ball is headed after it comes out of the pitcher's hand. And moving the stick to the appropriate side of the plate while the ball is traveling would seemingly be the best thing to do with directional. You want to pull inside pitches and go the other way with balls on the outside of the plate. So recognizing that and moving the stick to pull, using directional hitting, when a ball is thrown inside would seemingly be the best thing to do with that style of hitting. As opposed to just sitting pull an then having a ball thrown on the outside corner.
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              • Cliffking
                Pro
                • May 2013
                • 533

                #2017
                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                Very hard for me to answer that. I have not used nor tested meter pitching since MLB 2009. I simply don't use the interface.

                If I had to guess control would be the slider I would go too first, but better to ask a slider maker who uses meter pitching.
                Hey armor. I know you've always been a classic pitching guy. How long are you mashing the button when pitching? Still 1/2 to 3/4 of the way? Do you ever tap or use max strength?

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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21793

                  #2018
                  Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                  Originally posted by Cliffking
                  Hey armor. I know you've always been a classic pitching guy. How long are you mashing the button when pitching? Still 1/2 to 3/4 of the way? Do you ever tap or use max strength?
                  What’s up Cliffking. SO I typically go half to 3/4 of the way. I do tap when very behind in the count or wanting great control over a breaking pitch, I use max in pitchers counts 0-2, 1-2 as well as with my closer when I am in to trow a lot of gas (Chapman). It is a pure feel thing too if you get my drift.

                  Hope that helps.
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                  • dowie
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 1986

                    #2019
                    Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                    What’s up Cliffking. SO I typically go half to 3/4 of the way. I do tap when very behind in the count or wanting great control over a breaking pitch, I use max in pitchers counts 0-2, 1-2 as well as with my closer when I am in to trow a lot of gas (Chapman). It is a pure feel thing too if you get my drift.

                    Hope that helps.
                    Hey Armor - your exact sliders on OP are still playing tremendous for me. Have you made any changes recently? I.E.

                    pitch speed increase to 6 FB /7 off speed
                    steal frequency lowered by 2 or 3 ("no one" steals in MLB anymore)
                    all errors raised by 1 or 2
                    steal ability increased by 1 or 2 (I get caught ALL the time regardless of who I attempt with)
                    wind lowered by 1 - impacts power too much??

                    I haven't made any of these changes, but these are the only ones I am even considering.

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                    • Armor and Sword
                      The Lama
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 21793

                      #2020
                      Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                      Originally posted by dowie
                      Hey Armor - your exact sliders on OP are still playing tremendous for me. Have you made any changes recently? I.E.

                      pitch speed increase to 6 FB /7 off speed
                      steal frequency lowered by 2 or 3 ("no one" steals in MLB anymore)
                      all errors raised by 1 or 2
                      steal ability increased by 1 or 2 (I get caught ALL the time regardless of who I attempt with)
                      wind lowered by 1 - impacts power too much??

                      I haven't made any of these changes, but these are the only ones I am even considering.

                      Dowie

                      I have not made one single change. All good.
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                      • Cliffking
                        Pro
                        • May 2013
                        • 533

                        #2021
                        Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                        What’s up Cliffking. SO I typically go half to 3/4 of the way. I do tap when very behind in the count or wanting great control over a breaking pitch, I use max in pitchers counts 0-2, 1-2 as well as with my closer when I am in to trow a lot of gas (Chapman). It is a pure feel thing too if you get my drift.

                        Hope that helps.
                        Thank you so much brother

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                        • Hunkerdown
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 5415

                          #2022
                          Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

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                          • Gagnon39
                            Windy City Sports Fan
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 8544

                            #2023
                            Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                            Quick question on injuries. Are you leaving it at 9 for both played and summer games? I rarely get injuries during games but I get plentiful when simulating.


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                            • Gagnon39
                              Windy City Sports Fan
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 8544

                              #2024
                              Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                              Never mind, I see you have it set at 6 for summer games. My problem will be that I’ll forget to reset it.


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                              • Gagnon39
                                Windy City Sports Fan
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 8544

                                #2025
                                Re: Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

                                I’m starting to think maybe my reaction time just isn’t as good as it used to be. I have way, way too many guys hitting in the low .200’s and I’m now into June. I love everything about playing on Hall of Fame except the fact that I just don’t get enough hits. Instead of moving back down to All-Star hitting and risking possibly changing how the pitcher’s pitch among many other things, I’m considering one click up on contact. It says (if I’m not mistaken) that this will I crease batting averages. Has anyone done that? I just hate feeling like I’m giving myself and advantage over the computer though.


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