Armor & Sword & Marino’s MLB The Show 18 Classic/Directional Simulation Sliders

[EWRMETS]

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I've probably played over 1,000 games of The Show at this point and I can tell you what the major issue is regarding walks. It's the fact that when you, "miss your spot," about 80% of the time it results in a meatball that catches a ton of the strike zone. If the game tweaked it to be more around 20% of the time and the other 80% of the time it missed for a ball, it would be perfect.

As it stands now though, missed pitches result in too many strikes and not enough balls. Not saying that missed pitches don't ever miss way outside the zone for balls. They do. But just not nearly enough compared to pitches that miss over the heart of the plate.

I give up a decent amount of walks because I fear the CPU. I think if you fear the CPU, you'll throw to the corners and give up walks. Maybe you should try raising CPU offense. How are your overall pitching numbers?

[Fcshuckers73]

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I give up a decent amount of walks because I fear the CPU. I think if you fear the CPU, you'll throw to the corners and give up walks. Maybe you should try raising CPU offense. How are your overall pitching numbers?

Agree 100%. A combination of control, consistency, level and CPU hit sliders will produce walks. I have found mlb the show heaven using a combination of armor and Mike Lowe's sliders and settings. I have asked gagnon for his level and sliders before so I could help. But I haven't ever received a response. I doubt hes on legend with no control or consistency and increased CPU hit sliders and not walking hitters...heck armors sliders also produce great walk numbers.

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[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

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I respectfully disagree. I have reached realistic walk and strike/ball ratios following armor and Mike Lowe's tweaks. I had to break out and try different things (i.e play on legend pitch and no aids, per Mike Lowe's thread)

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Ditto.....

[JoshC1977]

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I've probably played over 1,000 games of The Show at this point and I can tell you what the major issue is regarding walks. It's the fact that when you, "miss your spot," about 80% of the time it results in a meatball that catches a ton of the strike zone. If the game tweaked it to be more around 20% of the time and the other 80% of the time it missed for a ball, it would be perfect.

As it stands now though, missed pitches result in too many strikes and not enough balls. Not saying that missed pitches don't ever miss way outside the zone for balls. They do. But just not nearly enough compared to pitches that miss over the heart of the plate.

This may or may not be your problem....but it will likely be of some use to someone....

I used to have the same issue with the game....not enough walks or K, too many meatballs; I tried one slider combo after another. Then realized when playing MLBTS17 early in last year's cycle (after playing 100s of games in the series)...it was ALL of my own doing. What I was doing was I was 'painting the corners' but doing so by aiming the pitches inside the zone. Once I turned off the ballmarker and vibration last year, I got past that mental hurdle and started aiming pitches more outside the zone. The game came alive....more Ks. more BBs, more hit variety...

Forgive the crude sketch; but I think it illustrates my point a lot better. The small circles are the ballmarkers, the larger circles are the variance boundaries based on ratings/button push duration and so on. Not quite perfectly scaled....but I think one can get what I am trying to say here.

[bravesfan1984]

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Love the insight Josh! I'm definitely going to go clean screen next time I play.

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[bcruise]

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This may or may not be your problem....but it will likely be of some use to someone....

I used to have the same issue with the game....not enough walks or K, too many meatballs; I tried one slider combo after another. Then realized when playing MLBTS17 early in last year's cycle (after playing 100s of games in the series)...it was ALL of my own doing. What I was doing was I was 'painting the corners' but doing so by aiming the pitches inside the zone. Once I turned off the ballmarker and vibration last year, I got past that mental hurdle and started aiming pitches more outside the zone. The game came alive....more Ks. more BBs, more hit variety...

Forgive the crude sketch; but I think it illustrates my point a lot better. The small circles are the ballmarkers, the larger circles are the variance boundaries based on ratings/button push duration and so on. Not quite perfectly scaled....but I think one can get what I am trying to say here.

Nailed it Josh...this is how I pitch even on Meter (which has a degree of randomness to it too, even if you hit the accuracy mark perfectly). Leads to more swinging misses (on pitcher ahead counts) and walks. Definitely good strategy on Classic pitching too.

[JoshC1977]

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Love the insight Josh! I'm definitely going to go clean screen next time I play.

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And turn off that vibration too as it vibrates when you exceed the strike zone boundaries...it became this mental thing for me as though it were forcing me more to the zone when the optimal pitch (like a slider away on an 0-2 count) is actually just off the zone.


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[bravesfan1984]

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And turn off that vibration too as it vibrates when you exceed the strike zone boundaries...it became this mental thing for me as though it were forcing me more to the zone when the optimal pitch (like a slider away on an 0-2 count) is actually just off the zone.


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Will do, going to be an interesting stretch of games to adjust. Probably going tonget blasted with my Braves ha

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[MDgolf]

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Too many wild pitches. Seems like a legacy thing...


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[Darth Aegis]

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Nailed it Josh...this is how I pitch even on Meter (which has a degree of randomness to it too, even if you hit the accuracy mark perfectly). Leads to more swinging misses (on pitcher ahead counts) and walks. Definitely good strategy on Classic pitching too.

I'll have to try this tonight as well with meter. I do however let the catcher call my pitch & location 90% of the time. It feels more sim that way for me.

[Jonotheking9]

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Armor, interested that you have changed the op to keep injuries at 8 for simming as well. So far I've had one in game injury (me or cpu) in first 15 games, but I have 6 minor leaguers on the dl, of which 4 are out for more than 2 months. Ascribing this to the slider working differently on the sim side to the game side. Are you seeing this too, or are my young kids just getting beat up when I'm not watching?!

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I’ve been playing 1 sim 5 in my Astros carry over franchise and there do seem to be too many injuries when simming with the slider at 8. Do you have any thoughts on this Armor? (I know you haven’t simmed much so far)

[bcruise]

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I'll have to try this tonight as well with meter. I do however let the catcher call my pitch & location 90% of the time. It feels more sim that way for me.

The thing is, that glove only normally shows up for difficulty levels below all-star. So, I believe that those exact suggestions are only intended to be used below all-star. If you try to throw a pitch right to that glove on HOF or Legend, often times it will get mashed if you hit the exact spot. On Veteran and below you can get away with pitches that catch that much of the plate. For me, the glove would represent the point that I ABSOLUTELY do not want the pitch going any nearer the middle of the plate, and I have to adjust my aim to account for that.

Personally I don't have the API on when I'm pitching (although I can see the catcher's hand signals regardless) but if you really want to use the catcher's location suggestion, use it as more of a guide than trying to hit the exact spot. Like, if it's giving you a fastball location on the outer third of the plate, try putting your aiming point on the corner or completely off the plate. At best, you hit where you're aiming and it'll be a tough pitch to hit, maybe a strike or ball. Worst case, it's a clear ball outside OR, if you miss inside, it catches the outer third and at least it's not a meatball right down the middle.

[pimpinpidgeon8]

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Hey Armor, what's your process for running with 30 teams? Do you use 40-man or 25-man roster and do you just let the CPU adjust their opening day roster and you just fix the lineups and rotations or what's your actual process?

[Darth Aegis]

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The thing is, that glove only normally shows up for difficulty levels below all-star. So, I believe that those exact suggestions are only intended to be used below all-star. If you try to throw a pitch right to that glove on HOF or Legend, often times it will get mashed if you hit the exact spot. On Veteran and below you can get away with pitches that catch that much of the plate. For me, the glove would represent the point that I ABSOLUTELY do not want the pitch going any nearer the middle of the plate, and I have to adjust my aim to account for that.

Personally I don't have the API on when I'm pitching (although I can see the catcher's hand signals regardless) but if you really want to use the catcher's location suggestion, use it as more of a guide than trying to hit the exact spot. Like, if it's giving you a fastball location on the outer third of the plate, try putting your aiming point on the corner or completely off the plate. At best, you hit where you're aiming and it'll be a tough pitch to hit, maybe a strike or ball. Worst case, it's a clear ball outside OR, if you miss inside, it catches the outer third and at least it's not a meatball right down the middle.

You can click R2(I think thats the button) manually ever pitch and it will pulls up on HOF. I will definitely use your advice though going forward. I've only been able to play a handful of games so far, and it seems to be working not bad. I rarely hit thar exact spot lol. Also my camera view is from behind the catcher when I pitch, so I dont think I can see his fingers. Appreciate the tips!

[Cowboy008]

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This is probably a stupid question but when pitching and you have a shift to the right are you supposed to aim the pitch to the left or right? I also use the broadcast camera.


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