JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

[Cycloniac]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

I'm a manage only/quick manage guy, but I'm always a fan of the auto-fielding, classic pitching approach.

Nice to see another person understanding its merits.

[tc020791]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

Directional or zone?

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Directional

[tyler28]

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Directional

Awesome, thanks for the replies. Didnt mean to derail the thread

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[AZYankee]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

I am using quick counts, but everything else on All-star default. I have to say, this may be the best version out of the box yet in terms of sliders.

[PotterB33]

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hey Josh what rosters will you use for your franchise?

I assume the default but thought id ask

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

hey Josh what rosters will you use for your franchise?

I assume the default but thought id ask

I'm going to do my Reds carryover from last year (using a May SDS roster). Then I will probably do a second franchise with Bacon's Fictional Roster.

I MIGHT do a franchise with a later SDS roster if they get get it cleaned-up.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

I started entering some values in the OP. Values entered are considered locked-in for this preliminary run. If I don't have a value entered yet, it means I am still evaluating.



I still think SP stamina is a touch low at default. Faced Kershaw (97 stamina) and he really began to fade bad around 90 pitches (and he had an easy game up to that point)...and that is at a near max stamina rating. With so many starters in the 70s (and as stamina ratings tend to drop) I think a bump like last year to 6 is preferred (remember that ~90 pitches was the AVERAGE of pitches thrown per start).



I'm also bumping up CPU pitch control to 6 (like last year). Just a few too many pitches down the middle. The user value is under evaluation at this time - obviously along with other values.



I'll say this...fielding is really locked-in at default this year. SO much variety to see...even in just a couple of games.



I did run some sims with the default Injury slider. Not bad, I'm probably going to bump it up as some teams would have no injuries at a given time; which I don't like. I'll do more sims later on.

Kershaw threw 117 pitches vs me before I tagged him for a couple of runs and they took him out.

HOF default across the board.

Interesting.


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[Rmiok222]

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I’ve jumped between HOF and all star quite a bit. I like these sliders so far on All Star that you have josh. This is the first year that I may even like all star more than HOF. Small sample size though. If I had to pick right now though I’d have to go with HOF hitting and All Star pitching. This game is loads of fun.


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[JoshC1977]

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Kershaw threw 117 pitches vs me before I tagged him for a couple of runs and they took him out.

HOF default across the board.

Interesting.


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Interesting indeed. In my game, it was mid season and he started with max energy.


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[PotterB33]

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hey Josh, really forcing myself to try these as I often use other interfaces and having a lot of fun. Here is some of my feedback

With auto-fielding:
I'm noticing particularly on grounders through the infield / balls within diving range, the CPU often doesn't go for them when I think they're plays I could make. (although I am seeing more attempts in 20 vs 19) I should think that's an example of the players ratings not being reflected accurately ? and in a way it also feels like theres a whole other part of the game I'm missing out on.

Now maybe it balances out? because on the other hand, I'll rarely be able to make any other type or jumping or diving flyball catches like the CPU does.

Hitting:
I feel like theres some pitches that I used to be able to reach, that I can't using Directional

Pitching:
Really feels good. Like IRL the pitches may not end up where you want them to sometimes.

otherwise, I'm enjoying all aspects of the set up

thx

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

hey Josh, really forcing myself to try these as I often use other interfaces and having a lot of fun. Here is some of my feedback

With auto-fielding:
I'm noticing particularly on grounders through the infield / balls within diving range, the CPU often doesn't go for them when I think they're plays I could make. (although I am seeing more attempts in 20 vs 19) I should think that's an example of the players ratings not being reflected accurately ? and in a way it also feels like theres a whole other part of the game I'm missing out on.

Now maybe it balances out? because on the other hand, I'll rarely be able to make any other type or jumping or diving flyball catches like the CPU does.

Hitting:
I feel like theres some pitches that I used to be able to reach, that I can't using Directional

Pitching:
Really feels good. Like IRL the pitches may not end up where you want them to sometimes.

otherwise, I'm enjoying all aspects of the set up

thx

These are definitely NOT for everyone...but I'm glad you're giving this a whirl.

Fielding: Ratings REALLY matter here....like REALLY matter....Like REALLY MATTER. What you mentioned about balls you think you could've gotten too..in one way, that's the beauty of this approach; in another, manual fielding is a lot harder this year. If you're used to manual fielding from 19....I think you'd be surprised as similar manual fielding in 20 is to auto. Did I happen to mention how much ratings matter here?

Hitting. Can't get to pitches that you can with zone? Yeah...zone allows people to get to pitches they shouldn't be able to. But here's the thing. If you are looking to go the other way with directional and get a pitch outside, you'll have a chance...but if you were trying to pull it; you might not hit it. This intuitively makes sense when you think about it.

[JoshC1977]

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OK...so sort of an update....

I've been playing around with various modes that do not permit slider changes. Guys, default All Star is REALLY good right now. I'm getting in more and more time...and frankly, I'm falling in love with this game on default settings...with one exception, the pitch speed sliders.

Pitch speed is VITAL to your performance. Yes, the value you select is a personal preference, but it still comes down to one thing. How comfortable are you at the plate? If you're comfortable with the pitch speed, it's too slow for you...bump it up a notch and find a place where it's hard for you to catch up to high velo unless you're sitting on it but not so hard that you can't pull anything. One critical thing, keep the offspeed setting one notch below the fastball value. The speed settings are way too close together if the values are the same (that was a change made this year).

I'm sitting on default for now. But understand, this is not like me and Madden where I feel like straying from default breaks the game. This is a testament to how incredibly good the game is at default. I'm confident changes will be made via patch and if needed, we'll adjust to them. But for now, enjoy the ride here.

[No.27]

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I will second Default All Star especially when I just saw something as neat as a 3-6-1 Double Play. A first for me on the Show that illustrates out of the box is working better than ever this year.

[Teleo]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

OK...so sort of an update....

I've been playing around with various modes that do not permit slider changes. Guys, default All Star is REALLY good right now. I'm getting in more and more time...and frankly, I'm falling in love with this game on default settings...with one exception, the pitch speed sliders.

Pitch speed is VITAL to your performance. Yes, the value you select is a personal preference, but it still comes down to one thing. How comfortable are you at the plate? If you're comfortable with the pitch speed, it's too slow for you...bump it up a notch and find a place where it's hard for you to catch up to high velo unless you're sitting on it but not so hard that you can't pull anything. One critical thing, keep the offspeed setting one notch below the fastball value. The speed settings are way too close together if the values are the same (that was a change made this year).

I'm sitting on default for now. But understand, this is not like me and Madden where I feel like straying from default breaks the game. This is a testament to how incredibly good the game is at default. I'm confident changes will be made via patch and if needed, we'll adjust to them. But for now, enjoy the ride here.

Josh - great to hear! What roster do you run with in The Show?

[JoshC1977]

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Josh - great to hear! What roster do you run with in The Show?

Rosters....

I don't usually touch the various custom Full Minors rosters - they all seem to suffer the same flaw; not enough D/F potential guys (which accelerates issues with regression/progression/budget issues/guys retiring too early). I tested out SDS' launch day roster, and it wasn't bad - it was pretty stable for about 6-7 years (I suspect years 7-14 or so will be the worst...and then once the real players get purged, things would begin to re-balance - same thing we see in Madden franchise). Now, in past years, all the various Full Minors rosters had way too few D potential guys (on the scale of 1/5th to 1/10th the number from the SDS rosters). What that does is cause the mode to be de-stabilized after year 1 (maybe year 2 if you are lucky)...easiest way to tell is the highest overall rating of the unsigned free agents after an offseason. You start seeing 2-3 (or more) guys above an 80 OVR left unsigned, you have a problem....exceptions here being players of advanced age. I've said this in other threads, but this is not a knock on these custom rosters, but it's rather a byproduct of them trying to meet the demands of people who want every "prospect" jammed into a 90 man roster (and frankly, the vast majority of guys in AAA/AA are NOT prospects anyways). One other thing, I would NOT advise people start a new franchise with a mid-season roster update (even one from SDS) - you'll run into the same issues as roster updates tend to inflate far more players than they drop down.

So what do I recommend?

Current Season
- Use the SDS launch day roster. Note: I have uploaded an altered version of this to the vault under my username JoshC1977. The only thing I changed were a handful of primary player positions (mostly in the deep minors) so that teams met their roster minimums for each position. This will quell the crazy number of early season trades people experienced.
- Wait for SDS to issue a significant update to the roster. No ETA here.
- I know Ridin's team will be posting their roster in the next week or so. Based on past rosters (and the issues I note above), I can't blindly endorse it. But, I will be assessing it when it launches (quick and dirty method...if you sort by potentials from F to A...the first two pages of players for each team should be all Ds and Fs).

Fictional
Only one option here IMO, and that is Bacon's roster. Extremely well-done and usually as franchise-stable as they come....definitely on par with SDS' roster.

Historic
Very few historic rosters are full minors. The 1987 roster is a classic one though...and it has gotten better every year.


Edit: I never answered the question I'm running a carryover from '19 started with an SDS roster. I'll also being using Bacon's roster and maybe the 1987 roster for separate chises.