S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

[dowie]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Like I was telling these slider makers...22 is like an ex-GF.....just can't let it go. I think it mostly has to do with me having a shiny somewhat new ps5 and wanting to play a PS5 version of The Show on it (MLBTS 20 is still great on this console btw).

So I plugged in these sliders EXACTLY as they are on page 1 (user 0 control/3 consistency and 7 contact and 7 solid hits for the cpu), and began a test franchise (with KC). The ONLY change I made is because I use MLB15 batting view, so 8/8 are my pitch speed settings.

Game #1 KC at Cle

KC 5R 10H 0E
CLE 6R 11H OE

KC 71B, 22B, 1HR 3BB 8K .278BA
CLE 81B, 22B, 1HR, 6BB, 7K .344 BA

KC 51% STRIKE 46% 1ST PITCH STRIKE
CLE 56% STRIKE 44% 1ST PITCH STRIKE

KC 10% FOULS 31% SWING/MISS
CLE 11% FOULS 23% SWING/MISS

KC 1 POP UP, 17 FLY BALLS, 11 LINE DRIVES, 9 GROUND BALLS, 0 CHOPPERS
CLE 1 POP UP, 16 FLY BALLS, 6 LINE DRIVES, 11 GROUND BALLS, 2 CHOPPERS

Miscellaneous notes:

Foul %'s about 5% too low, but it's just one game. I can easily move that slider up 1 or 2 if it becomes a trend.

Strike %'s for both teams a little on low side, but again, it's just one game, so I am just going to keep an eye on it.

Batting averages are high, but no one I can tweak hitting sliders based off of one game....I'm sure they'll come down over time...at least I hope so.

Cleveland managed their bullpen "perfectly"

Not a slider issue, but why don't OFers dive for more balls?

A 82 rated LFer let a ball fall inches in front of him. Maybe in the context of the game it was the safe play, but I've been noticing it since day 1 with this game.

This was a great experience (maybe should've listened to y'all sooner).
KC jumped out to a quick lead, I held Cle in check till the 6th and then they started to manufacture runs, and then took the lead in the 8th against a terrible KC bullpen.

I really like how I just can't throw strikes at will with this set. Pitching seemed easy at first, but once I started to nibble I got into trouble, which I love!

I am going to keep playing with this set, and see if I continue to like what I see.

I hope so, because I give up if this set doesn't work for me.

Dowie

P.S. I get why they did what they did with the errors, and there's no wrong answer, but I am going to move all 4 error sliders back to default.

Happy 2 keep doing these write ups if they are helping somebody.

[dragster646]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

That is good. I’m glad the sliders are working for you. I did a Mariners franchise and lost in the ALDS. Now in June in a Braves franchise but I’m kind of leaning towards starting a Indians franchise cause I want something different. Thought about doing that with a Pirates franchise but that might be too slow.

I really didn't want to play as my hometown team, and it was so hard to trade away a prospect that doesn't even exist for Alex Wood (Giants offered him to me) because it's not something that the real Guardians would do, but I told myself I do that trade with any of the other teams so I might as well do it with mine.

I was tempted to do a Pirates or Nationals franchise but that would definitely be a test of patience for sure. I think I could handle the Pirates for the lone reason that I absolutely LOVE PNC Park and Wrigley Field, but other than that it would be brutal. I also thought about trying the Royals, for the same reason as above...young team, nice stadium, challenge of rebuilding...but I'm too invested with the Guardians for now.

I think the Guardians would be fun for just about anyone, they have enough talent to be competitive now while also having prospects for the future. And even their current lineup is super young AND Jose Ramirez is locked up for 7 years.

[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Like I was telling these slider makers...22 is like an ex-GF.....just can't let it go. I think it mostly has to do with me having a shiny somewhat new ps5 and wanting to play a PS5 version of The Show on it (MLBTS 20 is still great on this console btw).

So I plugged in these sliders EXACTLY as they are on page 1 (user 0 control/3 consistency and 7 contact and 7 solid hits for the cpu), and began a test franchise (with KC). The ONLY change I made is because I use MLB15 batting view, so 8/8 are my pitch speed settings.

Game #1 KC at Cle

KC 5R 10H 0E
CLE 6R 11H OE

KC 71B, 22B, 1HR 3BB 8K .278BA
CLE 81B, 22B, 1HR, 6BB, 7K .344 BA

KC 51% STRIKE 46% 1ST PITCH STRIKE
CLE 56% STRIKE 44% 1ST PITCH STRIKE

KC 10% FOULS 31% SWING/MISS
CLE 11% FOULS 23% SWING/MISS

KC 1 POP UP, 17 FLY BALLS, 11 LINE DRIVES, 9 GROUND BALLS, 0 CHOPPERS
CLE 1 POP UP, 16 FLY BALLS, 6 LINE DRIVES, 11 GROUND BALLS, 2 CHOPPERS

Miscellaneous notes:

Foul %'s about 5% too low, but it's just one game. I can easily move that slider up 1 or 2 if it becomes a trend.

Strike %'s for both teams a little on low side, but again, it's just one game, so I am just going to keep an eye on it.

Batting averages are high, but no one I can tweak hitting sliders based off of one game....I'm sure they'll come down over time...at least I hope so.

Cleveland managed their bullpen "perfectly"

Not a slider issue, but why don't OFers dive for more balls?

A 82 rated LFer let a ball fall inches in front of him. Maybe in the context of the game it was the safe play, but I've been noticing it since day 1 with this game.

This was a great experience (maybe should've listened to y'all sooner).
KC jumped out to a quick lead, I held Cle in check till the 6th and then they started to manufacture runs, and then took the lead in the 8th against a terrible KC bullpen.

I really like how I just can't throw strikes at will with this set. Pitching seemed easy at first, but once I started to nibble I got into trouble, which I love!

I am going to keep playing with this set, and see if I continue to like what I see.

I hope so, because I give up if this set doesn't work for me.

Dowie

P.S. I get why they did what they did with the errors, and there's no wrong answer, but I am going to move all 4 error sliders back to default.

Happy 2 keep doing these write ups if they are helping somebody.

Nice to see those numbers and the cpu being dangerous. Yeah let us know how default errors feel. I wish the OFers would dive more. I don’t know if they still do that with default OF speed or if that’s from the OF speed being low. That and the OFers just jogging to a play and making the infielders for back and get the ball and missing it.

[dowie]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Report on game #2
Disclaimer: there are just my thoughts...sliders are all about personal taste.

Only difference is I increased all errors to 5 (default) and pitch speeds are at 8 because of the hitting view I use.

KC (ME) 5 R 7 H 1 E
CLE (CPU) 7 R 10 H 0 E

KC: 5 1B, 1 2B, 1 HR 10BB 5 K .219 BA
CLE: 6 1B, 2 2B, 2 HR, 4 BB, 6 K .294 BA

KC: 59% STRIKES 45% 1ST PITCH STRIKES
CLE:52% STRIKES 51% 1ST PITCH STRIKES

KC: 8% FOULS 23% SWING/MISS
CLE: 13% FOULS 23% SWING/MISS

KC: 2 POP UPS, 12 FLY BALLS, 3 LINERS, 14 GROUNDERS AND 3 CHOPPERS
CLE: 0 POP UPS, 13 FLY BALLS, 7 LINERS, 18 GROUNDERS AND 3 CHOPPERS

MISCELLANEOUS THOUGHTS:

FLOW OF THE GAME FEELS REALLY GOOD

BASE RUNNING SPEED /ARM STRENGTH RATIO WORKS WELL

CPU IS DEFINITELY HOLDING ITS OWN OFFENSIVELY - HECK, THEY'VE BEAT ME TWO STRAIGHT

CPU BULLPEN MGT IS AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE (BASED ON PROGRAMMING)

THINGS I "DON'T LIKE":

FOUL BALL %'S ARE ROUGHLY 5-7% TOO LOW FOR BOTH USER AND CPU (BASED ON MLB AVERAGES). I AM GOING TO START INCREASING IN INCREMENTS OF 1 TO SEE IF THOSE %'S CAN GO UP A BIT W/O AFFECTING/SKEWING OTHER STATS/THE PLAY ON THE FIELD

PITCH CONTROL FOR BOTH USER AND CPU. MLB AVG'S ARE LOW TO MID 60% SO JUST LIKE THE FOUL BALL %'S, THESE STRIKE %'S ARE 5 TO 10% TOO LOW.

ITS AS DOUBLE EDGE SWORD, BECAUSE IT MAKES PITCHING HARDER AND LIKELY MAKES THE CPU OFFENSE BETTER, BUT ONLY THROWING 50 TO 55% STRIKES ISN'T CUTTING IT. I AM GOING TO START INCREASING CONTROL AND CONSISTENCY BY 1 FOR BOTH CPU AND USER TO SEE IF I CAN BRING THOSE %'S INTO THE 60'S WITHOUT AFFECTING/SKEWING GAMEPLAY & STATS.

NO DOUBT THAT THIS IS A WONDERFUL BASE SET THAT CAN BE "SEASONED" TO TASTE. I WISH I HAD TRIED THEM SOONER.....MY BAD.

DOWIE

[bostonboy_003]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

Would these work on HOF difficulty?


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[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Report on game #2
Disclaimer: there are just my thoughts...sliders are all about personal taste.

Only difference is I increased all errors to 5 (default) and pitch speeds are at 8 because of the hitting view I use.

KC (ME) 5 R 7 H 1 E
CLE (CPU) 7 R 10 H 0 E

KC: 5 1B, 1 2B, 1 HR 10BB 5 K .219 BA
CLE: 6 1B, 2 2B, 2 HR, 4 BB, 6 K .294 BA

KC: 59% STRIKES 45% 1ST PITCH STRIKES
CLE:52% STRIKES 51% 1ST PITCH STRIKES

KC: 8% FOULS 23% SWING/MISS
CLE: 13% FOULS 23% SWING/MISS

KC: 2 POP UPS, 12 FLY BALLS, 3 LINERS, 14 GROUNDERS AND 3 CHOPPERS
CLE: 0 POP UPS, 13 FLY BALLS, 7 LINERS, 18 GROUNDERS AND 3 CHOPPERS

MISCELLANEOUS THOUGHTS:

FLOW OF THE GAME FEELS REALLY GOOD

BASE RUNNING SPEED /ARM STRENGTH RATIO WORKS WELL

CPU IS DEFINITELY HOLDING ITS OWN OFFENSIVELY - HECK, THEY'VE BEAT ME TWO STRAIGHT

CPU BULLPEN MGT IS AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE (BASED ON PROGRAMMING)

THINGS I "DON'T LIKE":

FOUL BALL %'S ARE ROUGHLY 5-7% TOO LOW FOR BOTH USER AND CPU (BASED ON MLB AVERAGES). I AM GOING TO START INCREASING IN INCREMENTS OF 1 TO SEE IF THOSE %'S CAN GO UP A BIT W/O AFFECTING/SKEWING OTHER STATS/THE PLAY ON THE FIELD

PITCH CONTROL FOR BOTH USER AND CPU. MLB AVG'S ARE LOW TO MID 60% SO JUST LIKE THE FOUL BALL %'S, THESE STRIKE %'S ARE 5 TO 10% TOO LOW.

ITS AS DOUBLE EDGE SWORD, BECAUSE IT MAKES PITCHING HARDER AND LIKELY MAKES THE CPU OFFENSE BETTER, BUT ONLY THROWING 50 TO 55% STRIKES ISN'T CUTTING IT. I AM GOING TO START INCREASING CONTROL AND CONSISTENCY BY 1 FOR BOTH CPU AND USER TO SEE IF I CAN BRING THOSE %'S INTO THE 60'S WITHOUT AFFECTING/SKEWING GAMEPLAY & STATS.

NO DOUBT THAT THIS IS A WONDERFUL BASE SET THAT CAN BE "SEASONED" TO TASTE. I WISH I HAD TRIED THEM SOONER.....MY BAD.

DOWIE

Thanks for the write up and your thoughts. Foul ball percentages have not been tested as we use quick counts. We can’t get accurate numbers since we don’t do every pitch. So that is good to know that those are too low. Raising it by 1 or 2 should help.

I think the control slider is very sensitive. I would use caution raising it as it will make the cpu weak again. Rmiok tested these with control and consistency at 2/3 and he thought they got weak again. He said that 1/6 is better than 1/3. So maybe try to raise the consistency first. Or you can try control at 1 and see if you notice a difference.


Do you use visuals or clean screen? I know people like the clean screen but that could help your % better than changing the sliders.

Let us know your thoughts.

[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

Would these work on HOF difficulty?


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They can possibly work on HOF but we raised the sliders to accommodate Allstar. It sounds weird, trust me, but Allstar with adjusted sliders plays better than HOF close to default. If you want to try these with HOF, you should get challenged.

[dowie]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I use ballmarker set to fade….not 100% clean screen….but very close.

GTK about control/consistency slider…I am just trying to bring those strike %’s up about 10%.

If it ends up neutering the cpu offense I’ll live with the low strike %’s.

Dowie

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

Would these work on HOF difficulty?


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No they will not. Pitching difficulty at Allstar is a must with these. Hitting difficulty and user hitting sliders is all dependent on how good you are. No real answer there.

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[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I use ballmarker set to fade….not 100% clean screen….but very close.



GTK about control/consistency slider…I am just trying to bring those strike %’s up about 10%.



If it ends up neutering the cpu offense I’ll live with the low strike %’s.



Dowie

I think if you could somehow get more fouled off pitches to a more realistic clip that will in turn increase strike %.

Idk how to really do that unfortunately lol. Raising foul frequency may give you a few more foul balls per game, but you need a few more every inning.

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[dragster646]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Hey guys, just wanted to update you on how the sliders are working for me. I started a second franchise with the Nationals just for fun and to see how a full-scale rebuild works, and things are SO different than my Guardians franchise. I've only played 10 games so far, but I'm not getting the massive power output I was getting with the likes of Jose Ramirez and Franmil Reyes. That makes me think that Jose Ramirez's season (43HR 94RBI at the end of July) is just an anomaly and that the player ratings make a much bigger difference than in previous versions of the games I've played (Granted I've only had '15 and '18). Anyway, still love how the sliders are playing out, even if it means long hours of frustrating Nationals baseball lol.

[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Hey guys, just wanted to update you on how the sliders are working for me. I started a second franchise with the Nationals just for fun and to see how a full-scale rebuild works, and things are SO different than my Guardians franchise. I've only played 10 games so far, but I'm not getting the massive power output I was getting with the likes of Jose Ramirez and Franmil Reyes. That makes me think that Jose Ramirez's season (43HR 94RBI at the end of July) is just an anomaly and that the player ratings make a much bigger difference than in previous versions of the games I've played (Granted I've only had '15 and '18). Anyway, still love how the sliders are playing out, even if it means long hours of frustrating Nationals baseball lol.

I’m tempted to start a Pirates franchise. I keep thinking about it. I started a Indians franchise and played 20 games so far. Most of the team is struggling offensively. But I’m 14-6 due to pitching.

Ramirez is batting.256 with 3 HR. Kwan is batting .145. I have 14 HR in 20 games. So different than my abrades Braves franchise where I lead the league in HR.

[dragster646]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I was thinking of starting with Pittsburgh, especially with the likes of Oneil Cruiz and Ke'Bryan Hays, plus PNC Park. The Reds were also tempting, but I decided to go with Washington instead.

I still want to continue my Guardians franchise, I'm just taking a break. We'll see what happens lol.

I only have two HRs in 9 games and have only scored more than three runs like twice. It's brutal, but honestly I'm okay with it because the weather has been cold AND I've faced the Mets for every game but three (the other were against Philly and one against Spencer Strider with the updated ratings where he's a 95).

[Ren The Conqueror]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Do you guys use the 7s or 8s for the CPU contact / solid hits?

[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Do you guys use the 7s or 8s for the CPU contact / solid hits?

Steve and I both use CPU contact at 8 now. I did have it at 7 but bumped it up.