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  • bryanm1982
    MVP
    • Nov 2016
    • 3788

    #1141
    Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

    Cardinals take 2 out of 3 from the Dodgers. Finished the long 10-game west coast trip 5-5 which we will take. The NL West is a power house. The Dodgers and Padres are both 24-6.

    Game one:

    STL 6 7 1
    LAD 3 8 0


    W- Miles Mikolas ( 4 - 2 )
    L- Julio Urias ( 3 - 2 )
    S- Ryan Helsley ( )

    STL SP- Mikolas 6.0 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, K, 3.75 ERA
    LAD SP- Urias 6.0 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 1 K, 2.72 ERA

    STL HRs- Goldschmidt (7) Arenado (2)
    LAD HRs- Smith (4)

    PotG- Paul Goldschmidt 2 for 4 - HR, 4 RBI, 2 R

    Notes -

    Game two:

    STL 2 6 0
    LAD 3 10 1


    W- Jimmy Nelson ( 4 - 0 )
    L- Zack Thompson ( 0 - 1 )
    S- Evan Phillips ( 15 )

    STL SP- Flaherty 6.0 IP, 8 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 3.44 ERA
    LAD SP- Gonsolin 5.1 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 0 K, 3.05 ERA

    STL HRs- Nootbaar 2 (6)
    LAD HRs- Betts (8)

    PotG- Mookie Betts

    Notes -

    Game three:

    STL 2 4 0
    LAD 0 2 0


    W- Adam Wainwright ( 3 - 1 )
    L- Walker Buehler ( 4 - 2 )
    S- None

    STL SP- Wainwright 9.0 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 2.70 ERA
    LAD SP- Buehler 7.0 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 3.46 ERA

    STL HRs- Goldschmidt (8)
    LAD HRS- None

    PotG- Adam Wainwright

    Notes - Wainwright pitches a complete game shut out.

    ~~Injury news~~
    Ronald Acuna - Broken Pectorum - 6 months
    - -
    - -
    ____________________________________________

    Up Next:

    Angels ( 14 - 15 , 3rd AL West , 2.5 gb ) @ Cardinals ( 18 - 11 , 1st NL Central , +0.5 gb )


    Game one: Jose Suarez ( 1 - 2 , 4.26 ERA ) vs Steven Matz ( 1 - 2 , 6.75 ERA )

    Game two: Shohei Ohtani ( 4 - 1 , 3.76 ERA ) vs Jordan Montgomery ( 3 - 0 , 3.00 ERA )

    Game three: Tyler Anderson ( 3 - 3 , 2.43 ERA ) vs Miles Mikolas ( 4 - 2 , 3.75 ERA )
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    • The Kid 24
      It's Show Time!
      • Jan 2007
      • 14765

      #1142
      Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

      Originally posted by bigdawg1690
      So if u fill up the LRP spots, those are the ones used the most. They've definitely changed something this year. I've done a crap ton of sims and here's what I came up with that does the best in game and simulation.

      LRP - worst RHP, stamina under 40
      LRP - empty
      LRP - empty
      MRP - 2nd best RHP
      MRP - 3rd best RHP
      MRP - 2nd lefty, 4th best RHP
      MRP - 4th or 5th RHP
      SU - best LHP
      SU - best RHP
      CP - closer obviously

      In this setup the CPU will use the MRPs the most, but not to an extreme amount. When setting up ur two setup men, keep in mind they will be used less in Sims. So if there is a high usage lefty or righty, u might want to swap with the MRP spots. When playing the teams swap them back.

      The LRP will average two innings per appearance. All others are around one inning per. The stamina issue will cause certain relievers to have more appearances, simply because they are fresher. So if u have 3 MRPs under 30 stamina and one close to or above 40 that reliever will be used the most, regardless of rating. Only way around this is to have all RPs with stamina 30 or below. I think I'm going to make those edits. Stamina is just too critical for the Sims bullpen usage.

      Also, it seems that the worst reliever, if not in the LRP spot, will be used the least. Makes sense, as he's the worst.

      In game this setup works great, just how a modern bullpen should be used. Sims, pretty good as well. Maybe swapping the LRP once a month would be my only other suggestion, to cut down on innings pitched by that reliever. Injuries will play a role with that as well.
      Bigdawg bud, thank you so much for this amazing work!

      Just one question... What do we do if CPU bullpen doesnt have a lefty? Going off OD rosters, I believe there was a couple teams that didnt have a lefty in their pen.
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      • bryanm1982
        MVP
        • Nov 2016
        • 3788

        #1143
        Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

        Originally posted by The Kid 24
        Bigdawg bud, thank you so much for this amazing work!

        Just one question... What do we do if CPU bullpen doesnt have a lefty? Going off OD rosters, I believe there was a couple teams that didnt have a lefty in their pen.
        Great question. I was wondering that too. I wonder if we put a middle of the pack RP in the SU1 spot. The SU2 spot sounds like it has to be the higher rated player. Just a question of how to get the CPU to use both since both would be RHP.
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        • The Kid 24
          It's Show Time!
          • Jan 2007
          • 14765

          #1144
          Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

          Originally posted by bryanm1982
          Great question. I was wondering that too. I wonder if we put a middle of the pack RP in the SU1 spot. The SU2 spot sounds like it has to be the higher rated player. Just a question of how to get the CPU to use both since both would be RHP.
          Yep agreed! See what bigdawg comes back with.
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          • Chuid
            Rookie
            • Feb 2022
            • 18

            #1145
            Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

            I just raised pitch speed to 10 and I hit 7 hrs. I love the way these play but the hrs are crazy idk why. I’m not the best so idk
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            • bryanm1982
              MVP
              • Nov 2016
              • 3788

              #1146
              Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

              Originally posted by Chuid
              I just raised pitch speed to 10 and I hit 7 hrs. I love the way these play but the hrs are crazy idk why. I’m not the best so idk
              That is crazy with the home runs. You have power at 5? You can raise cpu consistency to 10. That should give you less meatballs.
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              • DarthRambo
                MVP
                • Mar 2008
                • 6630

                #1147
                Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                Originally posted by Chuid
                I just raised pitch speed to 10 and I hit 7 hrs. I love the way these play but the hrs are crazy idk why. I’m not the best so idk
                I feel sometimes for some, raising pitch speeds help their hitting. This could be the case for you. Try it on default and see how it goes for you.

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                • Chuid
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2022
                  • 18

                  #1148
                  Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                  Originally posted by DarthRambo
                  I feel sometimes for some, raising pitch speeds help their hitting. This could be the case for you. Try it on default and see how it goes for you.

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                  I’m deff gonna try that, only reason I raised it up was because I wasn’t striking out enough. On 10 I was striking out a good bit, but I don’t think 7 home runs should happen. I’m playing with 6 powers like in v3 so I’ll try pitch speed 5 then see how it goes and report back. If home runs keeps happening I’ll probably drop user power.
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                  • The Kid 24
                    It's Show Time!
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 14765

                    #1149
                    Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                    Originally posted by The Kid 24
                    Bigdawg bud, thank you so much for this amazing work!

                    Just one question... What do we do if CPU bullpen doesnt have a lefty? Going off OD rosters, I believe there was a couple teams that didnt have a lefty in their pen.
                    Sorry fellas, I want to bump this post so bigdawg see's it.... Really interested in his finding as sounds like he locked in amazing AI bullpen settings!
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                    • HeadCoach2.0
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2023
                      • 713

                      #1150
                      Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                      In a first place tie with the Braves.
                      Getting ready to play a big 4 games series against them.

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                      • bryanm1982
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 3788

                        #1151
                        Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                        Originally posted by The Kid 24
                        Sorry fellas, I want to bump this post so bigdawg see's it.... Really interested in his finding as sounds like he locked in amazing AI bullpen settings!
                        If he doesn't get a chance to respond I'll test it tonight.
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                        • bigdawg1690
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 145

                          #1152
                          Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                          Originally posted by The Kid 24
                          Sorry fellas, I want to bump this post so bigdawg see's it.... Really interested in his finding as sounds like he locked in amazing AI bullpen settings!


                          All RH bullpen, all with equal stamina (29). Default sliders for sims. Tried several variations. The best I got that works in game and sims.

                          LRP - worst RP (swap with second worst every couple months if u wanna balance innings)
                          LRP - empty
                          LRP - empty
                          MRP - 2nd best RP
                          MRP - 4th best RP
                          MRP - 5th best RP
                          MRP - 6th best RP
                          SU1 - 3rd best RP
                          SU2 - best RP (non closer)
                          CP - closer

                          Few reasons for this. First, SU1 is the least used amongst these in sims. It's not terribly off, about ten to fifteen less games then SU2. The CPU will just use the best RP usually, dependent on stamina available, if no lefty. To help with those crucial middle innings, put ur 2nd best RP (after the closer) in the MRPs. That way you maximize his usage. Using the 3rd best RP in SU1 helps in game as usually that's a decent rated reliever in those 8th inning lead or tie games. Using a low ranked reliever would not be ideal in those situations. Depending on how important the sim stats are to you, u can swap the SU1 out with MRP2 every couple months to balance the appearances.

                          Again, these are simmed with no injuries. Adjust accordingly. If a lefty is called up, slot him in the SU1 spot. The CPU will go to him if a lefty is called for, even in the middle innings (6th or 7th).
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                          • The Kid 24
                            It's Show Time!
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 14765

                            #1153
                            Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                            Originally posted by bigdawg1690
                            All RH bullpen, all with equal stamina (29). Default sliders for sims. Tried several variations. The best I got that works in game and sims.

                            LRP - worst RP (swap with second worst every couple months if u wanna balance innings)
                            LRP - empty
                            LRP - empty
                            MRP - 2nd best RP
                            MRP - 4th best RP
                            MRP - 5th best RP
                            MRP - 6th best RP
                            SU1 - 3rd best RP
                            SU2 - best RP (non closer)
                            CP - closer

                            Few reasons for this. First, SU1 is the least used amongst these in sims. It's not terribly off, about ten to fifteen less games then SU2. The CPU will just use the best RP usually, dependent on stamina available, if no lefty. To help with those crucial middle innings, put ur 2nd best RP (after the closer) in the MRPs. That way you maximize his usage. Using the 3rd best RP in SU1 helps in game as usually that's a decent rated reliever in those 8th inning lead or tie games. Using a low ranked reliever would not be ideal in those situations. Depending on how important the sim stats are to you, u can swap the SU1 out with MRP2 every couple months to balance the appearances.

                            Again, these are simmed with no injuries. Adjust accordingly. If a lefty is called up, slot him in the SU1 spot. The CPU will go to him if a lefty is called for, even in the middle innings (6th or 7th).
                            Thank you so much man!!
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                            • The Kid 24
                              It's Show Time!
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 14765

                              #1154
                              Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                              bigdawg... Forgot to ask, what do you have CPU SP/Bullpen STA and Manager Hook at for simming games?
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                              • bryanm1982
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 3788

                                #1155
                                Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                                Originally posted by The Kid 24
                                bigdawg... Forgot to ask, what do you have CPU SP/Bullpen STA and Manager Hook at for simming games?
                                He said he used default sliders. But these should work with our current sliders. If not, even better.

                                I did update the OP for both setups. Thank you so much for testing this out for us.
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