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  • bryanm1982
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    • Nov 2016
    • 3782

    #76
    Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

    Maybe it was like this is other years but it is more noticeable this year. But we are trying to figure out why the CPU offense is different when you use quick counts vs not using them. Played both ways back to back games yesterday and you notice the batters taking more pitches when not using quick counts and they would swing at those pitches when using QC. We think maybe their approach is programmed different? When not using QC, they can get into more hitter counts and get more pitches that are mistakes and hangers. QC would start most hitters at 1–1. Most of the time, they would hit a foul ball it seemed like on the first pitch making it a 1-2 count right away. So they are already in defensive swing mode with 2 strikes. Unfortunately, QC never gives you a 2-0, 3-0, 0-2, or even a 1-0 count.

    So maybe that is part of it? Unfortunately, sliders can’t change that and we have to raise the sliders to compensate or raise the difficulty.
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    • SlyBelle
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      • Jul 2004
      • 1132

      #77
      Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

      Originally posted by bryanm1982
      Maybe it was like this is other years but it is more noticeable this year. But we are trying to figure out why the CPU offense is different when you use quick counts vs not using them. Played both ways back to back games yesterday and you notice the batters taking more pitches when not using quick counts and they would swing at those pitches when using QC. We think maybe their approach is programmed different? When not using QC, they can get into more hitter counts and get more pitches that are mistakes and hangers. QC would start most hitters at 1–1. Most of the time, they would hit a foul ball it seemed like on the first pitch making it a 1-2 count right away. So they are already in defensive swing mode with 2 strikes. Unfortunately, QC never gives you a 2-0, 3-0, 0-2, or even a 1-0 count.

      So maybe that is part of it? Unfortunately, sliders can’t change that and we have to raise the sliders to compensate or raise the difficulty.
      I certainly don't have the experience and look for all the various situations, but playing on the current sliders, I seem to be getting plenty of CPU hits against me and CPU has been very competitive. Also seem to walk their fair share as well. Maybe its because I play using the Pirates, and everyone gets hits off of them and their pitching probably not great I'll probably stick with current CPU batting settings as anymore and the CPU will be unstoppable against me Glad I found these to use as a base for me.

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      • bryanm1982
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        • Nov 2016
        • 3782

        #78
        Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

        Originally posted by SlyBelle
        I certainly don't have the experience and look for all the various situations, but playing on the current sliders, I seem to be getting plenty of CPU hits against me and CPU has been very competitive. Also seem to walk their fair share as well. Maybe its because I play using the Pirates, and everyone gets hits off of them and their pitching probably not great I'll probably stick with current CPU batting settings as anymore and the CPU will be unstoppable against me Glad I found these to use as a base for me.
        Lol the Pirates would be a fun team. Beautiful stadium and you can decide on what you are going to do with Reynolds. We are currently testing cpu sliders at contact at 6 and power, timing, and Solid hits at 5.
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        • Lil Worm
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          • Sep 2010
          • 1314

          #79
          Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

          Originally posted by bryanm1982
          Lol the Pirates would be a fun team. Beautiful stadium and you can decide on what you are going to do with Reynolds. We are currently testing cpu sliders at contact at 6 and power, timing, and Solid hits at 5.


          I ran with the Pirates in ‘22 and will keep it alive as well. We suck, but through the draft, and sim moves before the deadline the Pirates Nation has some things to be looking forward to.

          That chise is the sole reason I wasn’t going to pick up ‘23 before caving.


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          • DarthRambo
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            • Mar 2008
            • 6630

            #80
            Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

            Originally posted by Lil Worm
            I ran with the Pirates in ‘22 and will keep it alive as well. We suck, but through the draft, and sim moves before the deadline the Pirates Nation has some things to be looking forward to.

            That chise is the sole reason I wasn’t going to pick up ‘23 before caving.


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            • Lil Worm
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              • Sep 2010
              • 1314

              #81
              Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

              I didn’t think it could get much better than 22. I really think now though that this is going to be a GREAT season of baseball on the show!!!


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              • HeadCoach2.0
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                • Jan 2023
                • 713

                #82
                Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                Ironically people are still complaining about stuff.

                This society is full of miserable people who criticize everything.

                It never ceases to amaze me how people will overlook 500 things done right to complain about 5 things that might be wrong.

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                • ninertravel
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                  • Aug 2015
                  • 4831

                  #83
                  Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                  I’ve only got 6 games to play on opening day, lots of blow outs

                  God the reds are gonna be bad pirates killed me 12-3 lol pitching was his awful

                  Mets lost to Miami 8-2 mad max had a terrible game I got to him for 5 earned.

                  The 2 low scoring games so far was 4-0 and 2-1 most of the games I’ve played so far have been blow outs

                  Still small sample size, but hitting does seem easier than last year. Where last year I had the opposite problem early on and lots of 3-1 type games.

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                  • bryanm1982
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                    • Nov 2016
                    • 3782

                    #84
                    Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                    Originally posted by ninertravel
                    I’ve only got 6 games to play on opening day, lots of blow outs

                    God the reds are gonna be bad pirates killed me 12-3 lol pitching was his awful

                    Mets lost to Miami 8-2 mad max had a terrible game I got to him for 5 earned.

                    The 2 low scoring games so far was 4-0 and 2-1 most of the games I’ve played so far have been blow outs

                    Still small sample size, but hitting does seem easier than last year. Where last year I had the opposite problem early on and lots of 3-1 type games.
                    That is good to see the variety. Not using quick counts is like a whole new game inside the game for me. Seeing batters come back to walk after being down 0-2. Or giving up the 0-2 home run.

                    Now we are checking the stats and making sure our strike percentages are good.

                    I just did a test game pitching only with Miami facing KC. They scored 9 runs in the 5th inning. The first 7 runs were all with no outs. And no homeruns in the 9 run inning. It was awesome to see.
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                    • bryanm1982
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                      • Nov 2016
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                      #85
                      Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                      The last couple of games we have been testing CPU contact at 5, power at 6, timing at 5, and Solid hits at 4. So far so good. We raised power to see if we can get less singles. They were getting plenty of singles.
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                      • HeadCoach2.0
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                        • Jan 2023
                        • 713

                        #86
                        Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                        Originally posted by bryanm1982
                        That is good to see the variety. Not using quick counts is like a whole new game inside the game for me. Seeing batters come back to walk after being down 0-2. Or giving up the 0-2 home run.
                        Or when you start out 0-2 and then you wind up with a 10 or 11 pitch at bat because the CPU keeps fouling off pitches.

                        Or you make a good pitch in a good location and they still get a hit.

                        I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TURNING OFF QC. Trust me that is the best way to play where you see all the game situations that are present in baseball.

                        Now you see why I am still debating on whether to use the Mets or Braves. They are both good teams but they have different attributes. When you are playing every pitch your team ability is what counts.
                        Your shortcomings are going to be present. For example the Mets have good hitting and pitching but one of their main shortcomings is they have slower OF's who will misplay balls. You have to deal with for every game
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                        • ninertravel
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 4831

                          #87
                          Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                          Originally posted by bryanm1982
                          That is good to see the variety. Not using quick counts is like a whole new game inside the game for me. Seeing batters come back to walk after being down 0-2. Or giving up the 0-2 home run.

                          Now we are checking the stats and making sure our strike percentages are good.

                          I just did a test game pitching only with Miami facing KC. They scored 9 runs in the 5th inning. The first 7 runs were all with no outs. And no homeruns in the 9 run inning. It was awesome to see.
                          Yeah I struggle with QC with both pitching and hitting. I can't feel the the at bat at all. you know what I mean? it's a rhythm thing I understand why people use QC for time reasons. but coming in with a 0-2 count is hard it makes you more swing happy then be patient.

                          I think the power with homers is really good this year. previous years there was to many homers. but patches always like to change this

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                          • ninertravel
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 4831

                            #88
                            Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                            So the BP this year is SLIGHTLY better with one thing with LR. if there is 1 or 2 outs in the 5th inning the CPU will actually warm up 2 pitchers that are not the LR. it's no fluke I have seen it happen 3 times now. but it has to be deep in the 5th innings and the the LR would not have been previous warmed up before the 5th. if the LR is warmed up before the 5th or started warming up at the beginning of the 5th. they will be brought into the game for sure.. simple fix is to switch controllers and sit down the LR and warm up 2 others.

                            I don't know how that works after few games with stamina though have to wait till more into the season if lower stamina the CPU has improved at all

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                            • DarthRambo
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                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6630

                              #89
                              Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                              Played an instant CLASSIC earlier today! I pitched only with no QC as the Brewers @ Cubs. I am really loving this game with no quick counts, but just wish I could hit using them in the same game. I don't have time to play a season with hour long games lol.

                              To add on to the convo of no QC. This game, Yan Gomes fouled off a 1-2 slider away that I still have no clue how he made contact lol. He eventually drew the walk. The game overall was incredible and super intense pitching. Even though I quick managed my hitting, I still felt very much involved in the game.

                              Anyways, what a wild game this was. Here is the link if anyone wants to check it out. Cpu hitting sliders were:

                              Contact- 6
                              Power- 5
                              Timing- 5
                              Solid hits- 5

                              As Bryan said, we are currently testing 5/6/5/4 with no quick counts now. Need a tad bit less line drives, more homeruns/xbh from cpu. Will never be perfect, but we know this game always has the ability to come extremely close to real-life averages.



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                              • HeadCoach2.0
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                                • Jan 2023
                                • 713

                                #90
                                Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                                24 Hours. I will finally be able to play.

                                The Mets scoreboard is so huge I may choose the Braves just to avoid playing with it. They need to patch that ASAP.

                                Ridiculous.
                                Last edited by HeadCoach2.0; 03-27-2023, 12:09 AM.

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