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  • steveeee
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    • Dec 2003
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    #46
    Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

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    b/c the ASB series has everything except that silky smooth gameplay.....

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      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #47
      Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

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      stabmasterb said:
      why don't you just crawl into a corner start sucking your thumb and cry? for christ's sake its not vitual reality. these "mountain out of molehill" complaints are pathetic. the crouch, the vacume catch, if these things really bother you that much, you should switch games. because you're oviously working overtime to find a flaw and call this game unplayable. lagging swing? where the hell did that come from. its not the game man its you're slow *** reflexes. and by the way spare us the smug graemlins like, , you come off like a stubborn 3 year old about to cry because he can't watch barney...

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      Ya know, that BS post is exactly the reason why you get stuck with the same gameplay problems year in and you're out. You keep your mouth shut like that little kid that got picked on in elementary school. Don't like the "graemlins"?

      TOUGH.

      You want to sit there while you get this game with amazing options and average gameplay. Why don't you actually think of the reasons most people prefer other games over this one? The reasons I brought up are perfectly valid and are agreed upon by the majority of the people who can't "get into" this game. You ever wonder what people would really complain about if this game had gameplay similar to High Heat? Next to NOTHING. We bring up points b/c we want these things addressed to IMPROVE the game, yet your answer is to simply "deal with it."

      It's gamers like you that bend over and take it year after year why these things don't get addressed. You're a greedy VG businessman's dream, the gamer who "takes it" year in and year out.
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        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
        • Feb 2003
        • 39337

        #48
        Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

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        stabmasterb said:
        why don't you just crawl into a corner start sucking your thumb and cry? for christ's sake its not vitual reality. these "mountain out of molehill" complaints are pathetic. the crouch, the vacume catch, if these things really bother you that much, you should switch games. because you're oviously working overtime to find a flaw and call this game unplayable. lagging swing? where the hell did that come from. its not the game man its you're slow *** reflexes. and by the way spare us the smug graemlins like, , you come off like a stubborn 3 year old about to cry because he can't watch barney...

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        Ya know, that BS post is exactly the reason why you get stuck with the same gameplay problems year in and you're out. You keep your mouth shut like that little kid that got picked on in elementary school. Don't like the "graemlins"?

        TOUGH.

        You want to sit there while you get this game with amazing options and average gameplay. Why don't you actually think of the reasons most people prefer other games over this one? The reasons I brought up are perfectly valid and are agreed upon by the majority of the people who can't "get into" this game. You ever wonder what people would really complain about if this game had gameplay similar to High Heat? Next to NOTHING. We bring up points b/c we want these things addressed to IMPROVE the game, yet your answer is to simply "deal with it."

        It's gamers like you that bend over and take it year after year why these things don't get addressed. You're a greedy VG businessman's dream, the gamer who "takes it" year in and year out.
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          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #49
          Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

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          stabmasterb said:
          why don't you just crawl into a corner start sucking your thumb and cry? for christ's sake its not vitual reality. these "mountain out of molehill" complaints are pathetic. the crouch, the vacume catch, if these things really bother you that much, you should switch games. because you're oviously working overtime to find a flaw and call this game unplayable. lagging swing? where the hell did that come from. its not the game man its you're slow *** reflexes. and by the way spare us the smug graemlins like, , you come off like a stubborn 3 year old about to cry because he can't watch barney...

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          Ya know, that BS post is exactly the reason why you get stuck with the same gameplay problems year in and you're out. You keep your mouth shut like that little kid that got picked on in elementary school. Don't like the "graemlins"?

          TOUGH.

          You want to sit there while you get this game with amazing options and average gameplay. Why don't you actually think of the reasons most people prefer other games over this one? The reasons I brought up are perfectly valid and are agreed upon by the majority of the people who can't "get into" this game. You ever wonder what people would really complain about if this game had gameplay similar to High Heat? Next to NOTHING. We bring up points b/c we want these things addressed to IMPROVE the game, yet your answer is to simply "deal with it."

          It's gamers like you that bend over and take it year after year why these things don't get addressed. You're a greedy VG businessman's dream, the gamer who "takes it" year in and year out.
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            • Feb 2003
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            #50
            Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

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            Ed_Farias said:
            Actually it is in both MVP and ESPN, but like you said, not the same extent. In fact, in ESPN you don't see the ball warp, it is just here, then there. It more teleports . MVP has the warping affect as well. I don't see how else could do it from a developers standpoint. I mean, what do you want to happen? If the ball does not hit the glove, have it bounce off? How in the world would we ever catch anything?

            Maybe in the future you can actually control the fielders arm and joints, and move your arm so you line up with catching the ball. All in a matter of a second or two, sounds groovey.

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            If by transporting you mean the ball actually appears to go into a glove, and the player actually looks like he fielded it instead of playing tricks with magnets, then you're right.
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              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #51
              Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              Ed_Farias said:
              Actually it is in both MVP and ESPN, but like you said, not the same extent. In fact, in ESPN you don't see the ball warp, it is just here, then there. It more teleports . MVP has the warping affect as well. I don't see how else could do it from a developers standpoint. I mean, what do you want to happen? If the ball does not hit the glove, have it bounce off? How in the world would we ever catch anything?

              Maybe in the future you can actually control the fielders arm and joints, and move your arm so you line up with catching the ball. All in a matter of a second or two, sounds groovey.

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              If by transporting you mean the ball actually appears to go into a glove, and the player actually looks like he fielded it instead of playing tricks with magnets, then you're right.
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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #52
                Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                Ed_Farias said:
                Actually it is in both MVP and ESPN, but like you said, not the same extent. In fact, in ESPN you don't see the ball warp, it is just here, then there. It more teleports . MVP has the warping affect as well. I don't see how else could do it from a developers standpoint. I mean, what do you want to happen? If the ball does not hit the glove, have it bounce off? How in the world would we ever catch anything?

                Maybe in the future you can actually control the fielders arm and joints, and move your arm so you line up with catching the ball. All in a matter of a second or two, sounds groovey.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                If by transporting you mean the ball actually appears to go into a glove, and the player actually looks like he fielded it instead of playing tricks with magnets, then you're right.
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #53
                  Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

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                  steveeee said:
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                  b/c the ASB series has everything except that silky smooth gameplay.....

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                  silky
                  smooth
                  gameplay

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                  Yes, there's a perfect example of how it SHOULD look. Not having the ball disappear 2 ft away and seeing a magical "Out" appear onscreen....
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                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #54
                    Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

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                    steveeee said:
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                    b/c the ASB series has everything except that silky smooth gameplay.....

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                    silky
                    smooth
                    gameplay

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                    Yes, there's a perfect example of how it SHOULD look. Not having the ball disappear 2 ft away and seeing a magical "Out" appear onscreen....
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                    • Pared
                      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 39337

                      #55
                      Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

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                      steveeee said:
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                      b/c the ASB series has everything except that silky smooth gameplay.....

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                      silky
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                      Yes, there's a perfect example of how it SHOULD look. Not having the ball disappear 2 ft away and seeing a magical "Out" appear onscreen....
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                      • Ed_Farias
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1222

                        #56
                        Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

                        No what I mean is in ASB you actually see the ball change paths, you see it move in a different direction. In WSB, you don't see it change paths. It just goes from where it is, then teleports into the glove. IMO, there is no difference.

                        How do you think this could be handled differently? Do you think the ball should have collision detection with the glove? Won't that be really hard to line up the glove with the ball? My thought was to actually not make the path into the glove so close to the glove. If you are good fielding position to field the ball, have ball start taking an approach to the glove much earlier, that way the trasition (Warp) effect is not apparent. That was a just a thought, since I know very little about programming 3d vidoe games and the warp never really bothered much.

                        I am just at a loss here, since I have seen it in every baseball game, I figure there is a reason it is done this way. I mean it even did it back in the 2d days, the graphics were just so crappy you couldn't tell LOL

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                        • Ed_Farias
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1222

                          #57
                          Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

                          No what I mean is in ASB you actually see the ball change paths, you see it move in a different direction. In WSB, you don't see it change paths. It just goes from where it is, then teleports into the glove. IMO, there is no difference.

                          How do you think this could be handled differently? Do you think the ball should have collision detection with the glove? Won't that be really hard to line up the glove with the ball? My thought was to actually not make the path into the glove so close to the glove. If you are good fielding position to field the ball, have ball start taking an approach to the glove much earlier, that way the trasition (Warp) effect is not apparent. That was a just a thought, since I know very little about programming 3d vidoe games and the warp never really bothered much.

                          I am just at a loss here, since I have seen it in every baseball game, I figure there is a reason it is done this way. I mean it even did it back in the 2d days, the graphics were just so crappy you couldn't tell LOL

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                          • Ed_Farias
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 1222

                            #58
                            Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

                            No what I mean is in ASB you actually see the ball change paths, you see it move in a different direction. In WSB, you don't see it change paths. It just goes from where it is, then teleports into the glove. IMO, there is no difference.

                            How do you think this could be handled differently? Do you think the ball should have collision detection with the glove? Won't that be really hard to line up the glove with the ball? My thought was to actually not make the path into the glove so close to the glove. If you are good fielding position to field the ball, have ball start taking an approach to the glove much earlier, that way the trasition (Warp) effect is not apparent. That was a just a thought, since I know very little about programming 3d vidoe games and the warp never really bothered much.

                            I am just at a loss here, since I have seen it in every baseball game, I figure there is a reason it is done this way. I mean it even did it back in the 2d days, the graphics were just so crappy you couldn't tell LOL

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                            • Stoud
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 1259

                              #59
                              Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

                              Jeez Pared, with Stevee I can understand...but you have well over 300 posts and you just gave all that up to Troll off in this topic? Since you're so fond of Graemlins, here's one you should get familiar with REAL quick:

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                              • Stoud
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 1259

                                #60
                                Re: They haven\'t fixed the ball to glove detection!!

                                Jeez Pared, with Stevee I can understand...but you have well over 300 posts and you just gave all that up to Troll off in this topic? Since you're so fond of Graemlins, here's one you should get familiar with REAL quick:

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